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Brown v. Plata will free CA convicts
Supreme Court website ^ | 23 May 2011 | Supreme Court of the United States

Posted on 05/23/2011 11:32:10 AM PDT by docbnj

“To comply with the PLRA, a court must set a population limit at the highest level consistent with an efficacious remedy, and it must order the population reduction to be achieved in the shortest period of time reasonably consistent with public safety.”

(Excerpt) Read more at supremecourt.gov ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: convicts; crime; supremecourt
The 5 (Kennedy, Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor, Kagan)-4 (Scalia, Thomas, Alito, Roberts) decision backs a three-judge ruling that California must release inmates from the state prisons because they are unconstitutionally over-crowded, which diminishes the healthcare of inmates, especially the mental-health services.

The majority agreed with all the assertions of the lower court, including that the state could not remedy the situation by building new prisons.

1 posted on 05/23/2011 11:32:15 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: docbnj

I wonder how many of these inmates should be deported back to Mexico? If they did that, CA would fix their problem and let Mexico (not) deal with it.


2 posted on 05/23/2011 11:35:06 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: docbnj

Does anyone think we could use this as a plausible reason for CCW?


3 posted on 05/23/2011 11:38:46 AM PDT by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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To: docbnj

I cannot find anywhere in the decision a consideration of the safety of the public, except in the dissenting opinions by Scalia and Alito.

If I lived in CA, I would be arming myself and taking gun courses as quickly as possible. The number of thugs released under this program could be enormous, and will make the whole country more dangerous.

It is interesting that the majority opinion paints a picture of the conditions in the prisons which unintentionally illustrates the ferocity of these inmates, thousand of whom are to be released.


4 posted on 05/23/2011 11:39:01 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: docbnj

This imperils the whole nation. These dirtbags are mobile. We know that there is little likelihood that the people of Kalefornia will ever understand what just happened.


5 posted on 05/23/2011 11:40:48 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: docbnj

Send them all to Hollywood. There is some fine pickens there.


6 posted on 05/23/2011 11:42:18 AM PDT by Pit1 (The only word out of the dims mouth is TAX TAX TAX TAX TAX TAX TAX TAX TAX. And RINOS eat it up)
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To: walkingdead

Just renewed my permit.
Fortunately, I live in GA.


7 posted on 05/23/2011 11:46:43 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: docbnj

You can bet all those drug offenders serving federal mandatory minimums for possession charges won’t be released. They will release the rapist and murderers first.


8 posted on 05/23/2011 11:49:36 AM PDT by BBell
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To: docbnj
Sheriff Joe would know what to do.
TENTS. . . . . And pink underware
9 posted on 05/23/2011 11:49:58 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Everything is broken-While zer0 fiddles and the MSM tells him when and where to fiddle. . . . .)
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To: kosciusko51

Or maybe ‘empty out’ the death row crowd to make a little room...


10 posted on 05/23/2011 11:54:37 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

That would make a little more room, but I don’t think they have that many on death row. If they did, I don’t think they could afford to ‘empty out’ that many at once. However, at that point, it would not matter if there were 200 to a room...


11 posted on 05/23/2011 12:00:59 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: docbnj

How come convicted criminals have MORE rights than the general population/law-abiding citizens? Do the rights of citizens to be protected FROM these criminals not trump the so-called “rights” of convicts to have a comfortable and non-crwoded living environment????


12 posted on 05/23/2011 12:03:44 PM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: docbnj

Would this be a target-rich environment the SCOTUS is creating for the law-abiding armed citizen?


13 posted on 05/23/2011 12:06:18 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: docbnj
I have to believe the LEAST DAMAGING course is for CA to release all drug ONLY inmates.

If there were no weapons...only drugs and/or money...let them out.

Keep all violent criminals in.

14 posted on 05/23/2011 12:10:21 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: docbnj

Leave a gate open while the worst of the worst are out on the yard, and note their records “shot dead in escape attempt”. Repeat as necessary.


15 posted on 05/23/2011 12:11:44 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Mariner

>only drugs and/or money...let them out.

That covers a huge number gang members since most of the “armed” components of the original charges were removed in plea dealing.

Sorry, that won’t do it.


16 posted on 05/23/2011 12:48:37 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: BBell

Those are the state mandatory minimums in CA. It wont affect the federal system. The Feds still have 215,700 inmates and they used to have stats on over crowding but just make it look good on paper.


17 posted on 05/23/2011 1:17:47 PM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: ctdonath2

“Just renewed my permit.
Fortunately, I live in GA.”

I just wish it was feasible here in CA. I guess in the long run it’s better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.


18 posted on 05/23/2011 2:48:13 PM PDT by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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