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The most surprising poll results of the 2012 Election cycle?
Libertarian Republican ^ | Monday, May 23, 2011 | Eric Dondero

Posted on 05/24/2011 1:29:34 PM PDT by FreeKeys

Pro-Free Markets/Strong on Defense Giuliani best against Obama

Courtesy of our friends at Race42012.com, a new Harris interactive poll shows Romney on top of the GOP field. But Giuliani, not even a candidate, does best against Obama.

Harris Interactive Republican Primary Poll

    •Romney – 14%
    •Huckabee – 12%
    •Gingrich – 10%
    •Palin – 8%
    •Trump – 8%
    •Giuliani – 7%
    •Daniels – 5%
    •Paul – 4%
    •Cain – 3%
    •Bachmann – 2%
    •Pawlenty – 2%
    •Huntsman – 1%
    •Johnson – *
    •Santorum – *

General Election Matchups

    •Giuliani – 51%
    •Obama – 49%

    •Obama – 51%
    •Romney – 49%

    •Obama – 55%
    •Paul – 45%

    •Obama – 56%
    •Gingrich – 44%

    •Obama – 57%
    •Johnson – 43%

    •Obama – 57%
    •Santorum – 43%

    •Obama – 58%
    •Bachmann – 42%

    •Obama – 58%
    •Palin – 42%

    •Obama – 58%
    •Pawlenty – 42%

    •Obama – 59%
    •Cain – 41%

    •Obama – 59%
    •Huntsman – 41%

Editor's comments - Of course, the always vocal Ron Paul people despise the anti-Islamist/pro-Israel hawk Giuliani. It'll be interesting to see their reaction to these numbers. Also a surprise. Palin does rather well in this poll. Giuliani/Palin?


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; election; giuliani; obama
Somebody's missing. The second poll (the bottom list) is the kind of poll (vs. Obama) that I want to watch over time.
1 posted on 05/24/2011 1:29:37 PM PDT by FreeKeys
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To: FreeKeys

Rootie is a liberal and the Huckster isn’t running.


2 posted on 05/24/2011 1:31:59 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: FreeKeys

Did they poll NY City “Republicans” for this joke?


3 posted on 05/24/2011 1:32:17 PM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: FreeKeys

There was no “unsure” so lack of name recognition basically meant “Obama” as an answer or “Not Obama” as an answer...hence him doing so well against Cain, for example.

Giuliai beating him was weird...he hasn’t made any serious noise has he?


4 posted on 05/24/2011 1:33:04 PM PDT by RockinRight (Cain/Bolton - the perfect ticket for America's future. Or maybe Cain/McCotter??)
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To: fwdude

That’s one crappy poll. Too many people who aren’t running.


5 posted on 05/24/2011 1:34:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: FreeKeys

Julie-Annie is anti-Second Amendment.


6 posted on 05/24/2011 1:40:34 PM PDT by ZULU (Lindsey Graham is a nanometrical pustule of pusillanimous putrescence)
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To: FreeKeys

These bull$hi+ internet blog polls are a waste time and conducted by incompetents.


7 posted on 05/24/2011 1:40:50 PM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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To: FreeKeys

Mitt Romney was ahead of the curve in stating his goal of homosexualizing the military.

Mitt Romney: "One issue I want to clarify concerns President Clinton’s “don’t ask, don’t tell, don’t pursue” military policy. I believe that the Clinton compromise was a step in the right direction. I am also convinced that it is the first of a number of steps that will ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nation’s military. That goal will only be reached when preventing discrimination against gays and lesbians is a mainstream concern, which is a goal we share."
Do not support those that think that sodomy should be defined as "open and honest" or think that discriminating against these sick individuals should be something that we as a nation should worry about.
Same thing with murdering little babies:
In October 2002, campaigning for governorship of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney said he would “preserve and protect” a woman’s right to choose.

8 posted on 05/24/2011 1:45:55 PM PDT by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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To: FreeKeys
•Giuliani – 51% •Obama – 49%

•Obama – 51% •Romney – 49%

Is that for the democRAT nomination?

9 posted on 05/24/2011 1:58:41 PM PDT by South40 (Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: RockinRight

Giuliai is the LSM’s latest hot candidate du jour. Like their others, he will be just so much cold gruel in a few days.


10 posted on 05/24/2011 2:03:27 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Being an autodidact, I happily escaped the bureaucratization of intellect)
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To: FrankR
These bull$hi+ internet blog polls are a waste time and conducted by incompetents.

It says it was a Harris poll.

11 posted on 05/24/2011 2:10:59 PM PDT by FreeKeys (Posting again without reading the thread!)
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To: cripplecreek; Jim Robinson
Do you remember what happened on FR the last time in 2008 that we started getting some "pro-Rudy" posts...?

JimRob cleaned house...it took months for some to get over it..

Oh, Lawd, please..not again

12 posted on 05/24/2011 2:11:05 PM PDT by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: FreeKeys

“Also a surprise. Palin does rather well in this poll.”

No one dimwitted enough to be surprised by that should be writing for public consumption.

“Giuliani/Palin?”

Sorry, no gun-grabbing baby-killers need apply.

Palin is at the top of the ticket. Can’t think who should be second banana. It should be someone even more conservative and ballsy than Palin, so the demonrats won’t have an incentive to assassinate her.


13 posted on 05/24/2011 2:15:24 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: FreeKeys

The abortionist/gay rights pushing Rudy Giuliani is unwelcome on FR. If you wish to push his candidacy, please remove your self from FR first.

There will be NO campaign for Rudy (or any other abortionist) on FR!! That’s a guarantee you can take to the bank!!


14 posted on 05/24/2011 2:17:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Sea Parrot
Giuliai is the LSM’s latest hot candidate du jour. Like their others, he will be just so much cold gruel in a few days.

You may very well be right; I don't know. What I DO know, however, is that priority #1 is to DEFEAT THE EVIL WANNA-BE DICTATOR in the White House with the heaviest-duty electoral firepower we can muster (the most conservative one who CAN WIN). I did not start this thread because I'm a Giuliani lover. I'm a freedom lover. I'll take my time and watch and see...

15 posted on 05/24/2011 2:17:25 PM PDT by FreeKeys (RINOs aren't human. They're a species of poisonous, spineless slimy lizard.)
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To: FreeKeys

Not with Rudy. Keep pushing that abortionist bastard you get the ZOT!


16 posted on 05/24/2011 2:18:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m hurt. I posted post #15 BEFORE I saw your post #14.


17 posted on 05/24/2011 2:19:01 PM PDT by FreeKeys (RINOs aren't human. They're a species of poisonous, spineless slimy lizard.)
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To: Jim Robinson

HEAR,HEAR!


18 posted on 05/24/2011 2:22:35 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: FreeKeys

You may want to read this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1821435/posts


19 posted on 05/24/2011 2:28:54 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Not with Rudy. Keep pushing that abortionist bastard you get the ZOT!

Got it. I accept your admonition and promise never to post anything that emphasizes Rudy again.

20 posted on 05/24/2011 2:30:12 PM PDT by FreeKeys (RINOs aren't human. They're a species of poisonous, spineless slimy lizard.)
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To: trisham

Thank you.


21 posted on 05/24/2011 2:31:20 PM PDT by FreeKeys (RINOs aren't human. They're a species of poisonous, spineless slimy lizard.)
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To: FreeKeys

You’re quite welcome. Best wishes.


22 posted on 05/24/2011 2:32:33 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: FreeKeys
"What I DO know, however, is that priority #1 is to DEFEAT THE EVIL WANNA-BE DICTATOR in the White House with the heaviest-duty electoral firepower we can muster (the most conservative one who CAN WIN)."


We have to be careful not the repeat the Dems mistake. They ran in 2008 largely on an anti-Bush platform with no blueprint of their own. The result was that they did not begin 2009 with a governing mandate. Look what happened to them in 2010 when they tried to govern like thy had a mandate. It is important that we not make the same mistake by simply focusing on an anti-Obama approach.
23 posted on 05/24/2011 3:06:51 PM PDT by rob777
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To: An American!
Mitt Romney was ahead of the curve in stating his goal of homosexualizing the military.

How many of Romney's sons served in the military and did Romney himself serve?
24 posted on 05/24/2011 3:11:12 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: cripplecreek

The poll serves to push the idea that only RINOs can compete against Obama. We saw in 2008 what happens when RINOs go up against Obama.


25 posted on 05/24/2011 3:13:16 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: FreeKeys

I’m surprised there are that many members of the Sheeple who even remember who Giuliani is.


26 posted on 05/24/2011 3:17:51 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: FreeKeys

Polls are designed to influence not inform. If they plan to steal an election all they have to do, is have many polls showing the results they planned for. Bingo their poll was right on the money.


27 posted on 05/24/2011 4:24:18 PM PDT by itsahoot (We make jokes, they make progress. Dimmitude, get used to it.)
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To: ken5050

FR has never gotten over the purge. Traffic collapsed after that. And the result was McCain.


28 posted on 05/24/2011 4:47:23 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: FreeKeys

No it says it is an interactive poll, which means it is BS, anyone can vote as many times as they wish.


29 posted on 05/24/2011 5:21:21 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: FreeKeys

One of the comments at the original article:

Eric,

It’s odd that you’d compare Trump to Giuliani. I did so the other day myself.

They’re peas in a pod — corrupt and incompetent government careerists whose only selling point is their ability to self-promote.

The only real differences are that Giuliani opted for direct government employment rather than the corporate welfare queen route, and that his incompetence and corruption therefore has probably cost more in American lives than Trump’s has.

When Giuliani came in as mayor, one of the top recommendations in the wake of the 1993 WTC attack was to get the police and fire departments on the same comm gear. The gear was available, but the bribery process ran so slowly that it hadn’t been purchased by 9/11/01, resulting in the deaths of hundreds of NYPD officers who didn’t get the word to clear the buildings.

Also in response to the 1993 WTC attack, it was determined that New York needed an emergency response HQ. The experts recommended siting it in Brooklyn. Giuliani thought it was smarter to put it under the World Trade Center, which resulted in he and other city functionaries spending three hours trying to crawl out of the wreckage instead of being available to coordinate the response.

Then he turned down $10 million in 9/11 relief funding because the guy who offered it had made a common-sense observation as to the circumstances which brought 9/11 about.

And afterward? Giuliani avoids public appearances in NYC to this day, because whenever he makes them, the post-9/11 cleanup workers he fucked over and exposed to lung damage by lying about the air quality and refusing respirators, etc. — those who remain alive, anyway — show up to tell everyone what a rotten son of a bitch he is.

When he gets on the national stage, if his greasy medicine show carnival routine isn’t enough to turn people off, his opponents can always bring up the fact that his closest associate is in jail for corruption in the office Giuliani appointed him to, and that since leaving the mayor’s office, Giuliani has chosen to work as a lobbyist for such savory characters as Hugo Chavez.

He’s about as likely to win the GOP nomination, let alone the presidency, as Jacobite pretender Francis II is to move into Buckingham Palace.


30 posted on 05/24/2011 8:07:11 PM PDT by FreeKeys ("I'm sick & tired of this Marxist demagogic rhetoric coming from the president..."-Rep. Allen West)
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To: org.whodat

Thanks, I didn’t know that. That must be why Giuliani won.


31 posted on 05/24/2011 8:10:44 PM PDT by FreeKeys ("You can’t get this problem straightened out if most of your budget is off limits"-Marco Rubio)
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To: dsc

>>>Palin is at the top of the ticket. Can’t think who should be second banana. It should be someone even more conservative and ballsy than Palin, so the demonrats won’t have an incentive to assassinate her.<<<

Palin-Bachmann.

Or, conversely, Palin-Cain, although the sad news is that some people might think it’s the same guy who ran in 2008.

Palin-Murray. Just to see the heads explode over at NPR, like Nomad in that old “Star Trek” episode over the cognitive dissonance of smearing a woman and a dark-skinned minority. This one might be the best, actually, although the more I keep hearing Michele Backmann, the more she impresses me. You should see her biography - it’s pretty solid. However, presidential tickets are often about balancing politics, and Murray brings in the South.

Hell, Bachmann-Murray sounds good, too.

As long as I don’t have to vote for another RINO. The last time it took several weeks to get the stink out of my conscience.


32 posted on 05/24/2011 9:25:20 PM PDT by redpoll
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