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Oath Keepers to Rally in Tucson on Memorial Day Over Death of Young Marine Veteran
Oath Keepers ^ | 05/24/2011 | Oath Keepers

Posted on 05/24/2011 2:32:39 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

CALLING ALL OATH KEEPERS, ALL VETERANS, ALL PATRIOTIC POLICE OFFICERS, ALL GUN OWNERS, AND ALL LIBERTY LOVING AMERICANS.

This is an urgent call-out to all Oath Keepers, all veterans, all patriotic police officers, all Americans who cherish our liberty and our Constitution, and to all liberty leaders and patriotic organizations to join us in Tucson, Arizona this Memorial Day, May 30, 2011 to take a stand in defense of our Constitution, which our war dead fought to defend, and to take a stand against the egregious policy of using SWAT teams to serve search warrants on veterans and gun owners with no violent criminal history.

As you may know, on May 5, 2011, a young 26 year old Marine veteran who had survived two tours in Iraq, and father of two, Jose Guereña, was killed in a SWAT raid in Tucson, Arizona (see below news articles for details). At approximately 9:30 am, two hours after he hit the rack after working a twelve hour graveyard shift at an Arizona mine, his wife woke him by yelling that there were men with guns outside (she had seen a man outside the window pointing a gun at her). He told her to take their four year old son and hide in a closet, grabbed his AR-15, and stepped out into the hallway of his home just as his front door was battered in.

He died with his safety still on. He didn’t fire a shot. The Pima County, Arizona (Sheriff Dupnik’s department), SWAT Team fired 71 rounds at him, hitting him with approximately 60 rounds. He had no criminal record. The only justification given by the Sheriff’s spokesman for using SWAT to serve the warrant was that it was a search warrant in a narcotics conspiracy investigation (with three other homes searched in the same neighborhood), and that this is their policy when the home-owner may be armed

This policy of using SWAT to serve mere search warrants on people with no violent criminal history will lead to more deaths of veterans and other trained American gun owners because a trained man will react precisely the same way this young Marine did.

We must take a stand on this use of SWAT against gun owners and veterans who have no violent crime history, and that stand needs to be a firm one.

Therefore, we are going to rally in Tucson this coming Memorial Day, May 30, 2011 to honor this young Marine’s service and to express our opposition to the destruction of our liberty, and our opposition to this policy of using SWAT Teams to serve mere search warrants on gun owners and veterans who have no violent criminal record.

We don’t yet know the exact details of where precisely we will meet for a rally point in Tucson. We are still working out the details, which will depend on Jose’s family’s wishes, and other variables, but at a minimum we will conduct a solemn march and memorial for this Marine, Jose Guereña, to be followed by a formal gathering of remembrance for all of our war dead, with patriotic speeches by liberty leaders, patriotic police officers,and veterans.

We are seeking permission of the family to hold a memorial ceremony at Jose Guereña’s grave, present his wife with an award for valor for him, from us, for his service to his country, and to his family for doing exactly what any warrior should do. If we get permission from his widow and family, we will march to his grave, hold the ceremony, and march back to a rally point, and then we will go to a meeting hall (VFW, Marine Corps League, American Legion, or a local church – still to be determined) and have speeches and further fellowship and remembrance of him and of all our fallen. We will invite ALL who cherish our Constitution and want to honor him and all our fallen. We will see who shows up and who does not. We will let that speak for itself.

We will also issue a formal statement and press release condemning the policy that lead to his death. that statement will be signed by our current serving and retired police officer leadership who oppose this misuse of SWAT, and also by our Marine combat veteran leadership who are outraged at what was done to this young Marine, as well as other veterans within our leadership, on behalf of all 12,000 official members of oath keepers who are current or retired military and police, and on behalf of all American veterans, retired police, and gun owners who are placed at risk by this dangerous policy precisely because they would react the same way this Marine did.

And we will petition the Governor, Attorney General, and Legislature of Arizona to conduct independent investigations into this Marine’s death. We will present those petitions in person the next day, Tuesday May 31 in Phoenix, and we invite you to go with us to the Capitol of Arizona. We may also present a formal letter of grievances directly to Pima County Sheriff Dupnik. We are still sorting out the details of exactly what we will do in that regard.

What better way to honor our war dead and veterans this Memorial Day than to defend our Constitution and our God given rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, which is what they all fought, bled, and died for?

And yet those are the very freedoms that are now being taken away, and the Constitution they all swore to defend and gave their lives defending is now being trampled all over by corrupt oath breakers. Our Constitution truly hangs by a thread. If we don’t step up and defend it, there won’t be many more Memorial Days, and our Republic will fall.

We must stand against this policy that puts all veterans at risk of being shot by SWAT if their homes are searched, and we must honor the service and courage of this young Marine who simply did as any of us would have done by defending his family. And while there, we will also honor all other American warriors who have given their lives in defense of their homes, our way of life, and our Constitution. Let’s honor the oath keepers of the past by standing as oath keepers now

So, if you can at all make it to Tucson, please join us there to stand with us this Memorial Day, May 30, in Tucson.

This will be but the first salvo in a long campaign to fight this flawed policy, by placing the blame where it belongs – on the militarization of the police, on the trend to consider gun ownership the equivalent of a violent criminal record as justification for such SWAT raids to serve mere search warrants on gun owners who have no violent criminal history, and also at the feet of DHS and the Southern Poverty Law Center which have demonized both returning veterans and gun owners in general with their rhetoric of hate (labeling them “extremists’ and potential terrorists) that lead to this killing and will lead to many more. We will make sure that this young man will not have died in vain.

Why This Rally Must Be Done in Reaction to the Killing of this Marine

I want you to imagine yourself in the same situation this young Marine veteran, Jose Guereña faced. What would you do if your wife woke you up by screaming that there are armed men outside. I think you would do as this young Marine did – you would grab your gun to defend your family. And then a few seconds later your door is busted in, and you come face to face with unknown armed intruders (not knowing if they are street criminal home invaders or police). You would be in the same situation this young Marine was in. And if it turned out to be a SWAT team, it is likely you too would be shot dead while you are trying to sort out whether those armed men are police – as Jose was likely doing, which would explain why his safety was still on.

Those of us who are trained know and understand that the only way your family is going to be safe from a criminal home invasion is if you step up and defend them, but if you do that, if you dare to arm yourself and defend your family against home invasion, if it turns out to be the police conducting a dynamic SWAT raid, you will be at risk of being shot on sight every time. You will die for simply defending your family.

And that’s the problem with this policy of using a SWAT team just to serve a search warrant. Jose had a clean record – no criminal history. It wasn’t like he had a long rap sheet of violent crime convictions. So, what was the reasoning for going in like a military counter-terrorism unit? The sheriff’s spokesman, Lt. Michael O’Connor, said they do this when a suspect may be armed. So, they are telling us that whenever they serve a search warrant on any gun owner, this is how they are going to come in – with a dynamic entry by a heavily armed SWAT team a mere 15 seconds after pounding on the front door. Fifteen seconds is not enough time for you to get out of bed, figure out who it is, and then go answer the door, especially after your wife is screaming that there are armed men outside – are you really going to just stick your face in a window to see what’s outside? Or are you going to react in a tactical manner, arming yourself and being careful about taking a peek outside? By that time, your door will be battered in and you will be face to face with unknown gunmen (and don’t forget that many street criminals now impersonate police when they do home invasions). This is a recipe for disaster and death every time. Our New Mexico Chapter President, retired police officer Juli Adcock, wrote me to say: “My utter sorrow simply cannot be expressed. It could just as easily have been my 26 year old son, a Marine Vet, with 2 babies and a wife.”

She’s right. It could have been her young Marine son, it could have been her, it could have been me, it could have been you – it could happen to any of us since we would all do the same thing he did in response to an apparent home invasion.

Oath Keepers Board member Rand Cardwell, a Marine Scout-Sniper combat veteran, agrees. He told me that the same thing would happen to him or to his son, who is a current serving Marine Scout-Sniper, or to his Marine son-in-law. All of them would react in the same way under those same circumstances. And he agrees that it is most likely this young Marine still had his safety on because he was trying to ID the threat before he fired, as he had been trained to do.

And Arizona Oath Keepers Chapter President Ray Epps, also a Marine infantry veteran, agrees that he would react the same way under those circumstances. And indeed, the same response was voiced by retired Las Vegas Metro Police Officer Dave Freeman, my Western US Vice President and National Peace Officer Liaison. Indeed, every current or former police officer (several with SWAT experience) or military service member I have asked has had the same opinion.

If the Pima County Sheriff’s office were really concerned about avoiding this kind of near guaranteed firefight against a well trained gun owning veteran, they could have stopped him on the road on his way home from work. How hard would that have been? Just pull him over in a traffic stop, tell him they have a search warrant to search his home, and then conduct the search. But instead, they went in exactly as they would against a barricaded suspect with a long history of violence.

This policy is going to lead to more deaths, and especially among veterans, among retired police, and among any Americans who have had some training in defensive weaponcraft. Perversely, the better trained you are, the more likely you are to be shot by a SWAT team because you will not just curl up in a fetal position when your door is kicked in and armed men enter your home screaming obscenities. That only works on the untrained. It doesn’t work on Marines, all of whom are riflemen first, or on any other veteran who has had combat arms training. Nor will it work on retired police officers, or on well trained citizens who have been to any high quality civilian shooting school such as Suarez International, Thunder Ranch, Gunsite, Front Sight, etc. The better trained you are, the more likely you are to be shot dead by a SWAT team because you won’t freeze, and because you will react in a competent, effective manner to defend your family.

And such use of SWAT is not confined to search warrants in drug investigations. Tea Party founder Walter Reddy recently had a SWAT raid conducted on him by his local police department, based in part upon an unsubstantiated FBI statement that Reddy was a “person of interest” in a domestic terrorism investigation. The local SWAT Team executed a search and seizure warrant, seizing all of his guns. He was never charged with a crime, and yet his guns were taken for a year. You can read the details here:

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2011/05/19/the-new-american-on-the-railroading-of-walter-reddy/

As egregious as has been the lack of due process in Reddy’s case, the most dangerous aspect was the use of a SWAT team on him to merely serve a search warrant. Reddy is fortunate that he did not end up like this young Marine in Tucson. What was the basis for using SWAT on Reddy to serve this warrant? It wasn’t drugs. Aside from the mere fact that he is a gun owner, it could only be his political activities. Reddy is the founder of Committees of Safety and a known “patriot” leader who helped orchestrate the first modern Tea Party event in Boston, on December 17, 2007, and is now working on an alternative money system, with his “Sovereign State Depository, Inc.” which was recently incorporated in Delaware and is being designed to help the dozen or so state legislatures that have passed gold and silver resolutions in the past year to find a way to make commercial transactions in units of gold and silver. Such a dangerous man!

As I have said many times before, that is precisely the kind of heavy handed, dangerous use of SWAT that Southern Poverty Law Center and others of their ilk would like to see done to all of us, for merely defending the Constitution and advocating for constitutional government.

This policy of using SWAT to serve search warrants on gun owners simply because they are armed, and where there is no long history of violent crime, has got to stop. I think taking a stand over the use of SWAT against this young Marine in Tucson is a good place to start. And we also need to demand some answers from Pima County Sheriff Dupnik about exactly why this young Marine was left to bleed out while paramedics were prevented from treating him for an hour and fifteen minutes. Jose would have had a better chance if he had been shot in Iraq, where a corpsman would have braved enemy fire to treat him.

As we head toward Memorial Day, I find it disgusting that this young Marine survived two tours in Iraq and returned home to a family who was no doubt relieved and grateful to God that he had survived war, only to be gunned down in his own home, by his own government. As a veteran, I am just plain ticked off. But also as the Founder of this organization, I am convinced that we Oath Keepers veterans need to step up with as much resolve as we expect the current serving to do. We ask them to “steel their resolve” to do what’s right by their oath. We veterans need to do the same, and we Oath Keepers need to take the lead on encouraging other veterans and veterans organizations to step up.

And as for any concerns about not knowing all the facts in this case, what is at issue is the policy of using SWAT to serve a search warrant on a veteran with no criminal history that is at issue here. The facts related to that decision are clear. And it is that practice that is being used across this nation, in direct conflict with our right to bear arms and our right to defend our homes. And that policy will lead to more deaths, and it must be stopped. That is the point, not any ultimate outcome in this particular case – and since the Sheriff’s office has sealed all documentation and is now refusing to answer any further questions, it will be months or perhaps even years before all facts are known in this particular case. By then, people may have forgotten all about it. So now is the time to step up.

At this Memorial Day rally, we will conduct ourselves in a professional manner that does due honor to the dead, due honor to our Republic, and due honor to this young Marine’s service. Just like during the 912 March in DC, where there was not a scrap of paper on the ground after a million people were done speaking their minds, we will conduct ourselves in such a manner as to not give the domestic enemies of the Constitution a leg to stand on. Liberty is preserved by four boxes of freedom. Let’s use the first box, the soap box, by exercising our right to freedom of speech, assembly, and our right to petition government for a redress of grievances. Conduct yourselves with honor and due respect for Memorial Day, but let’s do send a firm, resolute message that we will not let our Constitution be destroyed, and we will not let our children’s heritage and birthright of liberty be stolen. Not on our watch!

For the Republic,

Stewart Rhodes

Army Airborne veteran and Founder of Oath Keepers


TOPICS: Announcements; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; dumprik; dynamicentry; guerea; guerena; noknockraids; oathkeepers; swat; swatabuse; tucson

1 posted on 05/24/2011 2:32:42 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
I can't be there, as much as I would like to be... but may I offer a suggestion?

Perhaps an online Condolence Book would be beneficial for gathering the condolences, prayers and thoughts of those of us unable to attend. Then, give his wife the web address so that she can read them and know that the folks who show up are only a small fraction of those who support her, and are outraged at the MURDER of her husband.

Just a thought. (If it is done, I'd like the opportunity to be one of the first to sign it.)

2 posted on 05/24/2011 2:49:57 PM PDT by PalmettoMason (Blacks are not inferior, but it is racist to hold them to the same standards as everyone else.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I believe a full independent Congressional investigation needs to be called for in this shocking case. I haven’t kept up with the changing story of the known-incompetent Sheriff Dupnik under whose administration this happened. They averred at some point that Guerena was guilty as sin of drug smuggling and they had probable cause to think he would be, then came up in the raid with Mexican drug smuggling paraphernalia like a tribute poster to a supposed saint of drug running. It seems fishy that there does not seem to be a live recording of the raid showing the proper warning the Sheriff claims there was and that Mrs. Guerena says there wasn’t — both persons who might have vested interests in the outcome.

Second, Dupnik needs to be replaced. To hear the reports, Pima County is in the middle of a major Mexican drug-smuggling corridor, and we don’t need Kaptain Keystone if there truly are violent, ruthless Mexican illegales (which Guerena was not) romping back and forth through Pima.


3 posted on 05/24/2011 2:51:29 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
So, they are telling us that whenever they serve a search warrant on any gun owner, this is how they are going to come in – with a dynamic entry by a heavily armed SWAT team a mere 15 seconds after pounding on the front door.

The police state is here. Wake up, smell the gunsmoke.

Personally I don't think the soapbox is going to do a whole hell of a lot of good, what with the number of government "educated" citizens in this country.

4 posted on 05/24/2011 3:18:39 PM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour; B4Ranch

Tick... Tick... Tick...


5 posted on 05/24/2011 3:26:27 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I have a bad feeling about this. Nothing wrong with the meet up itself, but there are some whack leftist nuts down there (back in the ‘80’s they had a pirate Marxist-Maoist radio station). And add to that the astoundingly dumb Sheriff Dupnick, and I would not be surprised if he decided that this group was an “unlawful assembly”, and to send in his thugs to “bust ‘em up”. Maybe even augmented with some unionists.

Let’s just say that could result in some amazingly bad karma.


6 posted on 05/24/2011 3:26:48 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: All

To all those who do get to attend. Be exremely careful that the same fate that the murdered former Marine[ I cannot spell his name]suffered does not happen to you. Never lose sight of the fact that these are killhappy individuals with no consciense or principles that you are dealing with. Do not under any circumstances give them any excuse to kill you, because they will.


7 posted on 05/24/2011 3:29:02 PM PDT by sport
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I think it is a lovely idea


8 posted on 05/24/2011 3:34:04 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Max in Utah

Yes to all you wrote.

Plus: DO UNTO OTHERS. They shoot first, and ask questions later. Therefore demand that they be removed from their posts first, and investigated later. Immediately remove them, and replace them with officials who take a public vow against the deployment of swat teams in such circumstances as prevailed in this case.

Protest alone won’t suffice. It must be protest that demands and produces immediate results. Don’t disperse until you get what you rightfully demand. That very day, that very hour. Do not accept promises to “look into it” or requests to “let the law take its course.” It is the course of the law that is now the problem.


9 posted on 05/24/2011 3:34:18 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (I stand with Israel!)
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To: JDoutrider; The Magical Mischief Tour

Now is as good as time as any to bring the subject of SWAT team tactics up with your mayors and town councilors. Grab a friend, make an appointment and go do it.

IMO, it should be common knowledge where our city, state and federal officials live. Yes, the county bureaucrats, the local, state and federal police officers, every single one of them. Let’s remove the cloak of anonymity from these public officials! They work for us, remember?

It is not difficult to make someone live in fear for their lives as many of you already know. Making our elected local, county, state or federal officials acutely aware of that feeling is not a popular idea but I assure you after once having that taste in your mouth, it is not one quickly forgotten. Why should we be the ones who fear them if we are not criminals? Don’t go after them in their protected offices when their homes and families are as vulnerable as ours are.

If our LEO’s or military troops under the orders of our elected officials ever administer violence to US citizens then I believe it should be returned in equal force to their superiors families.

I promise you that a single bullet through the kitchen window of the Mayors house will make for an excited dinner conversation with his wife that evening. The Mayor will then understand exactly what he did when he ordered violence against his townspeople.

The Chief of Police’s wife wouldn’t hesitate to explain in detail to her husband what a wonderful job he’s doing if her home were to receive a copper jacketed message through the front door.


10 posted on 05/24/2011 4:50:24 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: B4Ranch
Now is as good as time as any to bring the subject of SWAT team tactics up with your mayors and town councilors. Grab a friend, make an appointment and go do it.

This is a good idea. I see very little good and a lot of bad results from these paramilitary tactics.

11 posted on 05/24/2011 5:22:33 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
where...

Where will we draw the line?

When will we say enough??

What will finally provoke spontaneous direction action???

12 posted on 05/24/2011 6:02:55 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
...and that this is their policy when the home-owner may be armed ...

IOWs any average American who has the gall to exercise his or her 2nd Amendment protected right to KABAs.

13 posted on 05/24/2011 6:59:59 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
...and we don’t need Kaptain Keystone if there truly are violent, ruthless Mexican illegales (which Guerena was not) romping back and forth through Pima.

Tucson is second only to Mexico City for violent kidnappings so I don't think 'if' is necessary when discussing security concerns in Pima county.

14 posted on 05/24/2011 7:03:59 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: PalmettoMason

Is there anyone else in Yuma who is interested in going?


15 posted on 05/24/2011 8:04:33 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Max in Utah

A soap box can always be turned upside down and used to store ammo....


16 posted on 05/24/2011 9:02:02 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: PalmettoMason

I would also sign.


17 posted on 05/25/2011 3:37:33 AM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: PalmettoMason

OathKeeper #460.

:-)


18 posted on 05/25/2011 3:40:24 AM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

This case is exactly why we have Grand Juries, the problem lies in the way we have allowed Government at all levels to Bastardize the System as it was intended, and until about 40-50 years ago was in full swing routing out corruption. Our system was setup so that citizens saw blatant corruption and injustice in GOVERNMENT, the CITIZENS could form a Grand Jury by electing JURORS and Making their Case, Their Decision was Iron Clad and without Review, The corrupt were removed and imprisoned. It was and Still is the Law of the Land. The Problem is NOBODY READS THE CONSTITUTION anymore.


19 posted on 05/25/2011 8:13:23 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: roaddog727

When I saw this - that the Oathkeepers were rallying, basically in opposition to government law enforcement violations of citizens’ rights,

I’m thinking that this is the first step to something rather “major” in the not too distant future.


20 posted on 05/25/2011 8:17:15 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: B4Ranch; All

” He died with his safety still on. He didn’t fire a shot. The Pima County, Arizona (Sheriff Dupnik’s department), SWAT Team fired 71 rounds at him, hitting him with approximately 60 rounds. “

Sheriff Dupnik is a leftist psychopath who should have been removed for incompetence a long time ago.


21 posted on 05/25/2011 1:46:15 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Pima County has the Sheriff they voted for. They deserve what comes from his actions.


22 posted on 05/25/2011 3:06:47 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: B4Ranch

Specifics:

OATH KEEPERS MUSTER Sheriff Mack and Stewart Rhodes On The March


“What – An Oath Keepers muster. Oath Keepers and friends will muster and march to the home of Mrs. Vanessa Guerena for a ceremony of memoriam for her late husband Jose Guerena, a U.S. Marine Corps veteran of the Iraq war.

When – 8:00 a.m. sharp Monday morning Memorial Day, May 30, 2011

Where - The intersection of West Valencia Road and South Wade Road. Take I-10 to I-19 South and exit West Valencia Road to South Wade Road, Tucson, Arizona. See below.

Who - Oath Keepers is calling for all veterans, National Guardsmen, active duty military, current-serving peace officers, firefighters, retired public servants, gun owners, veterans organizations, civic organizations, church groups, student groups, and other patriotic Americans.

Why – To stand with Oath Keepers at a memorial service for Jose Guerena, a war veteran who was killed by law-enforcement gunfire in his home on May 05, 2011. We wish to honor Jose Guerena’s service to this nation and ensure that his death lights the spark which shall lawfully undo present-day policies which militarize our local peace officers and violate our veterans’ and gun owners’ Fourth Amendment rights.

Press contact – Arizona Oath Keepers state chapter President Ray Epps: 480-586-5145. Backup Press contact – Elias Alias – 406-285-6597 * eliasalias@gmail.com


23 posted on 05/26/2011 10:05:17 AM PDT by NoNAIS (Yet another Government program not needed.)
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To: NoNAIS

Did you post it on the Arizona page?


24 posted on 05/26/2011 10:12:50 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: B4Ranch

I’m so new I didn’t even know there was one!

Trying to get on an existing thread so not to be “OT”.

Help a ‘Freeper figure it out?

Thanks


25 posted on 05/26/2011 10:26:39 AM PDT by NoNAIS (Yet another Government program not needed.)
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To: NoNAIS

http://www.freerepublic.com/~adminmoderator/


26 posted on 05/26/2011 10:52:49 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: B4Ranch

Agreed


27 posted on 05/26/2011 10:59:28 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Judgment Day is coming.

Semper Fi.

28 posted on 05/26/2011 11:05:27 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ ("Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." A. C. Clarke)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I think the police will be let off. They were going after someone they thought was dangerous, had a warrant, saw a man come out with a gun and shot before (what they thought) he fired. I just don’t see this ending up in criminal charges for sure. Administrative hand clap for sure. A huge lawsuit for sure. Good to have the support for the family at this time. I would imagine they will need it.


29 posted on 05/27/2011 7:47:47 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Now we know why some law enforcement chiefs want gun control.This kind of crap wont stop until an entire neighborhood rises up and meets these thugs head on to protect their neighbors.


30 posted on 05/29/2011 6:46:54 AM PDT by Americanexpat (Everytime I see that guy's face ot)
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To: Americanexpat

I agree and when that gun control gets passed it’ll be SWAT TEams like this, made up of cops “just doing their jobs” who will come kick in your door and confiscate the guns...

Folks, especially conservatives need to wake the hell up and stop denying the simple fact that the cops are no longer your friends.


31 posted on 05/29/2011 7:45:39 AM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: napscoordinator
I think the police will be let off. They were going after someone they thought was dangerous, had a warrant, saw a man come out with a gun and shot before (what they thought) he fired.

They'll be "let off" because they are cops... and we all know cops can do no wrong. But please show me in a legal dictionary or any dictionary for that matter where the legal threshold of "They Thought", is defined as accepted...

They thought is just mere suspicion and gives the police zero ability to do anything accept continue to investigate from a distance to develop more evidence.... it does not justify a full-blown SWAT raid.

32 posted on 05/29/2011 7:48:57 AM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Judgment Day is coming.

Well it needs to hurry the hell up, cuz if this is what Amerika is turning into I want no part of it.

33 posted on 05/29/2011 7:50:27 AM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: NoNAIS

Thank you. It is about an hour away, so I guess I know what I’ll be doing at 7 AM Monday...


34 posted on 05/29/2011 8:01:40 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

;-)


35 posted on 05/29/2011 8:14:00 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ ("Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." A. C. Clarke)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour; All

Here is the raid: http://www.fugitive.com/archives/41313


36 posted on 05/29/2011 7:23:18 PM PDT by Strider2
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Does anyone know how this rally went?


37 posted on 05/30/2011 9:43:35 PM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It seems fishy that there does not seem to be a live recording of the raid showing the proper warning the Sheriff claims there was and that Mrs. Guerena says there wasn’t — both persons who might have vested interests in the outcome.................................................................

I don’t think this is a re-enactment, if it is, shame on them. But if this is what occurred, would he not know who was there? Its not like they made a stealthy approach to the house. How could he not know it was the police? Also what is with the hurricane shutters in AZ?

http://www.fox11az.com/video/raw/RAW-Pima-County-Sheriff-releases-SWAT-video-of-May-5-shooting-122748594.html,


38 posted on 06/18/2011 7:57:41 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (The storm clouds of war are on the horizon, 1939 is again approaching us.)
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