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Shades of 2008: A Greek Default Won’t Be ‘Contained’, John Mauldin Says
The Market Ticker ^ | 5-24-2011 | Aaron Task/John Mauldin

Posted on 05/24/2011 2:36:28 PM PDT by blam

Shades of 2008: A Greek Default Won’t Be ‘Contained’, John Mauldin Says

By Aaron Task
Daily Ticker
May 24, 2011

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Financial markets shuddered Monday as fears over Europe's sovereign debt crisis resurfaced yet again. Still, the Dow closed off its worst levels of the session amid the conventional view that Greece's debt crisis can be managed.

But Endgame author John Mauldin says Greece won't be any more "contained" than subprime mortgages were in 2008.

"It's not something that stops at the European waters," Mauldin says. "Just like the subprime crisis didn't stop in California…I'm worried this one has a lot of contagion and it'll affect the world."

As for the mechanism for that contagion, Mauldin lays out the following scenario in the event of a Greek default:

* - Greece has to nationalize its banks.
* - Greek citizens are forced to take deposits in drachmas, rather than euros.
* - Greek consumers and businesses then default on all debts because of the resulting haircut, which he estimates at 50%.
* - French and German banks are forced to take write-downs on their Greek exposure.
* - The ECB is forced to take a write-down on its exposure to Greek debt.

Such a scenario would not go unnoticed in Portugal or, especially, Ireland, where voters have already shown their displeasure with having to pay for bank bailouts, Mauldin notes.

Meanwhile, U.S. banks have written credit-default swaps to European banks. Most of these positions are hedged but "you're only balanced as long as both of those counterparties are good," Mauldin says. "If you have a bad counterparty, now you're out of balance."

If you'll recall, it wasn't the failing subprime mortgages per se that caused the real

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008; default; euro; greece

1 posted on 05/24/2011 2:36:34 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

The ECB Is An “Enormous Bad Bank” That’s Exposed To Everything That Could Go Wrong In Europe

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/ecb-enormous-bad-bank-2011-5#ixzz1NJ8fqnsk


2 posted on 05/24/2011 2:39:53 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: blam

and yet Goldman Sachs issued a BUY BUY BUY on oil futures...


3 posted on 05/24/2011 2:48:08 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

they are predictng oil at $130!!!!


4 posted on 05/24/2011 3:00:47 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: blam
Well WooHooo! This ride is going to outshine any others! Making the 2008 fiasco look like a children's game. The "2 Big 2 Fail" criminals might just get repo'd their own damned selves this time around...

Look up my FRiend... is that a Black Swan circling above?

5 posted on 05/24/2011 3:12:10 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: JDoutrider
"Look up my FRiend... is that a Black Swan circling above?"

Nah.

A Black Swan is unexpected...they knew/know this is coming.

6 posted on 05/24/2011 5:01:41 PM PDT by blam
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
BLANCHFLOWER: THE EURO CRISIS IS HEADED FOR “DISASTER”
7 posted on 05/24/2011 5:37:23 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Stockman: U.S. Technical Debt Default a Near Certainty
8 posted on 05/24/2011 5:52:41 PM PDT by blam
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