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DOJ letter:'TSA would likely be required to cancel any flight'(FEDs threaten air blockade of Texas)
The Lone Star Report ^ | 5/24/2011 | Andy Hogue

Posted on 05/25/2011 10:23:19 AM PDT by Roninf5-1

The U.S. Department of Justice sent a letter to House and Texas Senate leaders Tuesday -- reportedly in person -- threatening a shut-down of airports if HB 1937 is passed.

The letter claims Rep. David Simpson's (R-Longview) anti-TSA-groping bill is against federal law and the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution. We include the text of the DOJ's letter, as well as a portion of Simpson's reply, below.

(Excerpt) Read more at lonestarreport.org ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 112th; bhodoj; democrats; doj; dojisajoke; ericholder; fourthamendment; govtabuse; hb1937; holder; injusticedepartment; liberalfascism; obama; obamalegacy; punishyourenemies; texas; texasvstas; texasvstsa; tsa; tsapervs; tsavstexas; tyranny
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1 posted on 05/25/2011 10:23:27 AM PDT by Roninf5-1
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To: Roninf5-1

Looks like a Mexican standoff. I think the Texas legislature will fold since the Feds can shut down air travel whenever they feel like it.


2 posted on 05/25/2011 10:25:50 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Roninf5-1

3 posted on 05/25/2011 10:26:13 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 853 of our national holiday from reality. - OBL Dead? The TSA can go away!)
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To: Roninf5-1

See my tag line.


4 posted on 05/25/2011 10:26:51 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (zero hates Texas and we hate him back.)
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To: Roninf5-1

Rep. Simpson is gutsy. Bless the representative and Texas.


5 posted on 05/25/2011 10:27:30 AM PDT by madison10
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To: Roninf5-1
Anyone doubt that our communists black Muslim King Obama is a really hard course communists and is currently a dictator with power to kill America any time he wants.
6 posted on 05/25/2011 10:28:19 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Roninf5-1

DOJ, sighting the Constitution?

I’d be callin’ the bluff, shut the dam air traffic down!


7 posted on 05/25/2011 10:28:24 AM PDT by devistate one four ( Kimber CDP II .45 OORAH! TET68)
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To: Roninf5-1

You know that you can excerpt more than two sentences in an article.


8 posted on 05/25/2011 10:29:41 AM PDT by BradtotheBone (Moderate Democrat - A politician whose voting record leans left and whose vote can be bought.)
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To: Roninf5-1

Texas has a wide variety of ways it can respond to this threat including those dealing with the interstate commerce of vital energy supplies used to support the regime in Washington, DC.


9 posted on 05/25/2011 10:30:39 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Roninf5-1

Bravo, Texas! I quit flying after being groped at the San Francisco airport last Christmas, and I’ll stay away as long as this policy is in effect.


10 posted on 05/25/2011 10:31:03 AM PDT by American Quilter (DEFUND OBAMACARE.)
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To: null and void

Texas pulled the bill... the TSA won.


11 posted on 05/25/2011 10:32:14 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Roninf5-1

If all the states would only unite on this issue. DOT would fold.


12 posted on 05/25/2011 10:35:16 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Roninf5-1

Where’s Governor Gardasil on this?


13 posted on 05/25/2011 10:36:20 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I'd rather be Plaxico Burress than Sean Taylor)
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To: Jonty30

Its been pulled.. the fed bully wins again.


14 posted on 05/25/2011 10:36:27 AM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: Forgotten Amendments

Perry is a clown. The only people who fall for his fake cowboy act are people who don’t know anything about Texas.


15 posted on 05/25/2011 10:37:28 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Roninf5-1

16 posted on 05/25/2011 10:38:10 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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To: Bidimus1

It reminds me of an old saying I heard one time.

If you keep feeding the bear, it will eventually eat you.


17 posted on 05/25/2011 10:38:20 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: saganite
No idea why the federales would shut down airtravel. All they need to do is get one of the gropers arrested by Texas authorities and walk into court immediately and say "in the performance of his duties" and the judge will turn him loose.

The law is not enforceable as long as the TSA agent is a public employee. If he's a contract employee that might be a little different.

On the other hand if TSA lets the employee be arrested, tried and convicted, and simply shuts down air travel, ALL the TSA employees in the entire United States will WALK OFF THE JOB.

18 posted on 05/25/2011 10:38:58 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: null and void

THAT is GREAT.


19 posted on 05/25/2011 10:40:03 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear
Texas pulled the bill... the TSA won.

Texas needs men like Jim Bowie, Davy Crockett, and Colonel Travis more than ever!

20 posted on 05/25/2011 10:41:12 AM PDT by Roninf5-1 (If ignorance is bliss why are so many Americans on anti-depressants?)
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To: devistate one four

Cite, the word you wanted was CITE.


21 posted on 05/25/2011 10:41:29 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: saganite
The Department of Justice apparently does not believe in the Fourth Amendment ("The right of the people to be secure in their persons...against unreasonable searches...shall not be violated...")...or else believes its sole purpose is to allow defense lawyers to get their guilty clients off by having key evidence excluded from consideration at trial.
22 posted on 05/25/2011 10:41:53 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Roninf5-1

This is basically nullification, so Texas doesn’t have a constitutional leg to stand on. That being said, the GOP Congress should make this a priority.


23 posted on 05/25/2011 10:42:34 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Bidimus1

OK, so pass a bill to require TX airports to opt-out of TSA and replace TSA with private contractors.


24 posted on 05/25/2011 10:42:39 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Roninf5-1

TSA bkmk


25 posted on 05/25/2011 10:43:26 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: American Quilter
What in the world happened with "lay in wait quietly and then the agent walks to his door only to be surrounded by thugs who beat him insensate"?

We don't do that anymore or what?

Not that I'd advocate that but knowledgeable lawyers in the Texas legislature KNEW there was no way to legally reach the TSA agents with state law. What is their next proposal?

Frankly, I'd try "investigative bureau" and "civil suits against individuals". You go prying into a TSA agent's personal life separate and apart from his job you will certainly find SOME with enough cr*p hanging on them to embarrass even Napolitano.

Civil suits could tie up enough DOJ lawyers to make it remarkably expensive for Eric Holder and his queer girlfriend to continue this act.

26 posted on 05/25/2011 10:43:53 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: American Quilter
What in the world happened with "lay in wait quietly and then the agent walks to his door only to be surrounded by thugs who beat him insensate"?

We don't do that anymore or what?

Not that I'd advocate that but knowledgeable lawyers in the Texas legislature KNEW there was no way to legally reach the TSA agents with state law. What is their next proposal?

Frankly, I'd try "investigative bureau" and "civil suits against individuals". You go prying into a TSA agent's personal life separate and apart from his job you will certainly find SOME with enough cr*p hanging on them to embarrass even Napolitano.

Civil suits could tie up enough DOJ lawyers to make it remarkably expensive for Eric Holder and his queer girlfriend to continue this act.

27 posted on 05/25/2011 10:43:56 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Roninf5-1

Yes, just like Sam Huston and Jim Bowie. Send them out to shoot Mexican soldiers!


28 posted on 05/25/2011 10:45:30 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: wideawake
Sorry... but Texas does have the right to nullify unconstitutional laws.

TSA practices violates the 4th amendment.

Is federal law allowed to violate the constitution?
29 posted on 05/25/2011 10:45:58 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Verginius Rufus
Airline safety is an interesting case ~ my 4th amendment rights require that I be secure against a government regulated airplane crashing into my house.

Nothing more important than that.

Everything else flows from that consideration.

30 posted on 05/25/2011 10:47:54 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: madison10

Sampson was just on Alec Jones. He said he withdrew the bill reluctantly but if the public gets involved they might be able to pass it anyway.

Just my personal opinion but I have believed for some time that the DHS and TSA are the most dangerous agencies ever created in this country. Very quickly the TSA has been morphed into an internal security force just like Oblahblah promised. What we are looking at is the American version of the SS. They are going to block our ability to move freely within our own country.

Congress will do nothing about this. The states need to step up and band together to fight this TSA insanity. Otherwise they will continue to squeeze our rights until there is a general uprising/rebellion/revolution which will be a bloody mess that nobody wants to think about.


31 posted on 05/25/2011 10:47:54 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: devistate one four

I’d be callin’ the bluff, shut the dam air traffic down!


Bingo!


32 posted on 05/25/2011 10:49:35 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: Roninf5-1
significant leagal and practical problems

Oh no he di'int! Oh yes he deeeuhd!

33 posted on 05/25/2011 10:50:56 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts.)
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To: Roninf5-1

if the feds want to try and isolate texas, then texas should isolate the fed. turnabout is fair play

no fed taxes from the people of the state

i’d be for florida joining with texas. or i’d just move there


34 posted on 05/25/2011 10:51:02 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

The federal judiciary, not the Texas state legislature, is the body that has constitutional authority to pronounce on the constitutionality of federal law. And there really is no 4A issue, since no one is legally obligated to fly anywhere if they don’t want to deal with the TSA.


35 posted on 05/25/2011 10:51:28 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: PapaBear3625

Defund the TSA, Congress. Repeal the Patriot Act. Haven’t y’all heard, ? Obama eliminated the reason for WOT.

That’s the downside of the National Security state with it’s creeping erasure of liberty- once it’s gone, it ain’t never coming back.


36 posted on 05/25/2011 10:51:45 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: Roninf5-1

Shut it down until the airlines and citizens demand that the gov’t straighten itself out and send Nappy packing.


37 posted on 05/25/2011 10:52:02 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: muawiyah
Yes, just like Sam Huston and Jim Bowie.

Sam Houston.


38 posted on 05/25/2011 10:52:20 AM PDT by houeto (Rev. 13. [7] And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them:)
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To: Roninf5-1; All

Funny, I didn’t know the US Congress, in creating the TSA, authorized strip searches and frisks of innocent Americans. I doubt the Congress knew they were doing that. Or, perhaps, these new types of TSA searches may just be policy enacted by Obama’s minions.


39 posted on 05/25/2011 10:55:25 AM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: Roninf5-1
This office, <snip> would like to advise you of the significant leagal [sic] and practical problems that will be created if the bill becomes law.

Brought to you by the "leagal eagle" himself, John E Murphy, US Attorney.
40 posted on 05/25/2011 10:55:25 AM PDT by andyk (Wealth != Income)
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To: Roninf5-1

it’s irritating how this administration is quick to pull the legal and constitution cards when it suits their purpose and ignore and trample the law and constitution when convenient


41 posted on 05/25/2011 10:55:31 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: muawiyah
No idea why the federales would shut down airtravel. All they need to do is get one of the gropers arrested by Texas authorities and walk into court immediately and say "in the performance of his duties" and the judge will turn him loose. The law is not enforceable as long as the TSA agent is a public employee. If he's a contract employee that might be a little different. On the other hand if TSA lets the employee be arrested, tried and convicted, and simply shuts down air travel, ALL the TSA employees in the entire United States will WALK OFF THE JOB.

That would fall into the "how dare you defy us!" category.
42 posted on 05/25/2011 10:58:13 AM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: Logical me

the fairy was over in the Uk today lecturing the Uk about who they are at war with and did his usual outreach to islam and muslims, mention slavery etc then went into the respect for law

What law is he talking about because this admin is making laws up as they go along, suing states and police depts for defending the law and then ignoring other parts of the law like DOMA.

He stood there today , the same man who has no clue what town he is in on most trips and does not even know how many states or what year we are in.
He stood there thinking he was the leader of the world and yet all he is , is a puppet for Soros


43 posted on 05/25/2011 10:59:58 AM PDT by manc (Hannity is a fraud , he admitted he's socially liberal on his show, he's took us for suckers)
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To: Ancesthntr

Secede?

I am not for it, BUT if we did, we could elect to control our own airport inspection, oil production, school system and banking industry. We might has such an influx of population that the U.S. Treasury might find it difficult to compensate for the loss.

The real solution is to take the entire country back and throw the Lying Commie Bastards out or in jail.


44 posted on 05/25/2011 11:00:15 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Roninf5-1

“...anti-TSA-groping bill is against federal law and the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution.”

How can that be when the COTUS provides a specific protection against unreasonable searches and seizures?


45 posted on 05/25/2011 11:00:50 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: cornfedcowboy
Ok, so the gubbermint is so determined to keep us safe when we fly. We can't have anything that may be considered a weapon or someone on the ‘’watch list’’. Fine but wait a second, what has it done to secure our border between Mexico and our country? They have to realized how dangerous the border is, so why are they copping a feel now and then or grabbing a guy's ‘’stuff’’ when there is a higher probability of some serious bad guy coming in without the fear of getting stopped/
46 posted on 05/25/2011 11:02:08 AM PDT by shadeaud ("If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin)
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To: wideawake
You do realize that the TSA isn't just for flying right? So that line of logic is a failure.

The TSA is now providing security for proms in NM. Is that constitutional?

47 posted on 05/25/2011 11:02:54 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: PapaBear3625
the Govt needs to get rid of the TSA and go back to private companies, then sell off Amtrack like the Brits did under Thatcher. The Feds are ignoring laws while making new ones and the GOP are frigging silent and would rather attack each other because they want to think the media might like them
48 posted on 05/25/2011 11:03:02 AM PDT by manc (Hannity is a fraud , he admitted he's socially liberal on his show, he's took us for suckers)
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To: Balding_Eagle; devistate one four

>>> Cite, the word you wanted was CITE. <<<

Technically correct. But given the actions of the DOJ as of late, even “sighting” the Constitution would be a step in the right direction.


49 posted on 05/25/2011 11:05:20 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Forgotten Amendments; Minus_The_Bear
Where’s Governor Gardasil on this?

Perry is a clown. The only people who fall for his fake cowboy act are people who don’t know anything about Texas.

As a Texan who watches Texas politics closely enough to have been around Perry more than once I am glad you folks have been watching too! Perry is a lightweight. He is not the brightest bulb. About the only thing he is good at is taking advantage of political "gaps" where the other candidate or candidates are bigger douches than he is. Perry has no real skills. In a way he is a like like Obama in that Perry has never really done much. Sure , he has been gov. of Texas but that is not a very strong executive position. Perry mainly has been looking for his next job. That is what he had in mind by pushing Guardasil and the Trans-Texas Corridor. Those were ways for him to make a buck once he got out of office.

If it become obvious that Perry could easily beat Obama then Perry will jump in to the presidential election. If it looks like work he won't.

Perry is a RINO and the last guy we need in Washington. He does have nice hair but why does that matter? We might as well measure finger length or maybe the length of something else:) The latter might be a good idea for all Republican candidates because I bet we would find no cajones attached as we say in Texas...

At this point I want to see Palin get in the race. Why? Because she is like Thor, she has a huge hammer because she is so well known. Like Reagan, Palin is a comfortable pair of shoes. People feel like they know her. Unlike Obama who nobody knows. Even Obama.

So, no thanks when it comes to Perry. We already have a wind up doll in office now. We don't need another.

50 posted on 05/25/2011 11:05:56 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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