Posted on 05/25/2011 3:03:38 PM PDT by Eleutheria5
Benny Katzover, chairman of the grassroots Samaria Residents’ Council, is unimpressed by Binyamin Netanyahu’s speech to Congress, despite all of the standing ovations. Katzover – a respected member of the pioneer generation of Samaria settler leaders – admitted that Netanyahu’s oration “was impressive and received great respect.”
“But this respect was given to him because he pretended to represent authentic Jewish values,” he went on. “In fact, however, he filled up the bucket and then proceeded to empty it of water.”
“He is continuing down the slippery slope of ‘two states for two nations’ from the Bar Ilan speech,” Katzover told Arutz Sheva’s Hebrew-language news magazine. “Every child knows that leaving only the [dense] settlement blocs [in Israeli hands] means giving over 90% of the territory and marking more than 100,000 Jews for eviction.”
Netanyahu is following in the footsteps of Ariel Sharon and Ehud Olmert, Katzover said. “He keeps selling out another bit and another one, and in this way makes everything crumble. He knows he’s lying and that there will be many more communities outside the blocs. He spoke yesterday of a dramatic demographic change near Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. These are precisely the classic blocs of Sharon and Olmert, and all those who wanted to sell out Judea and Samaria.”
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Funny to read about guys like this who completely miss the point of his speech.
In point of fact, Ben could have agreed to abandon Israel completely, but only if the Palestinians agreed to recognize the right of Jews to exist, in the world, anywhere, and the Palis would walk away from table.
This has been going on for too long, though. What happens when you put what should be vital, non-negotiable items on the table is, even though the Palis walk away and you don’t have to actually give anything up, the ante is now higher, and next time you have to offer something even more sacred and inviolable in order to show that you’re serious about wanting piece. After all, what you offered last time wasn’t enough, so now you have to sweeten the pot. We actually have given up, starting in 1923, the entire East bank of the Jordan River, Hebron, Judah and Shomron, Gush Etzion, the Sinai, Aza, military presence in South Lebanon, and still have no peace, only pieces. Enough already. Stop putting things on the table! It is sold even though nobody buys it.
If Egypt attacks, take back Sinai. If Hamas attacks, take back Aza. If the PA attacks by means of any of its many surrogates, take back bits and pieces for each attack, and annex whatever you take back. Offer full citizenship to anyone who will swear loyalty to Israel, and an emigration package for anyone who wishes to leave. Deal fairly but firmly with all who remain but will not take the loyalty oath, and expel anyone who makes trouble.
Netanyahu’s speech was firm. He said “no!” to the president of the United States. Politicians don’t have the same luxury that columnists do. They must at times straddle the line, especially when speaking in a foreign country. Netanyahu crossed that line for the good of Israel.
Unfortunately this whole Middle East feud is not about land but about a deep hatred for the Jews that has spanned centuries. There will never be a lasting peace between these two factions until the Lord returns. Any nation, group, or individual that sticks their noses in there, no matter how sincere their motivation, will suffer the consequences.
“Netanyahu’s speech was firm. He said “no!” to the president of the United States. “
He already said “no” with regards to Jerusalem. With regards to Judah and Shomron, he has to work on being unequivocal and withdrawing some previous offers, not making new ones.
For a crude analogy, a girl who won’t go all the way but will go down on her knees for a hummer if you pay her enough is still a whore, even though she keeps her technical virginity regardless, and even though the john didn’t want to pay that much and walked away.
Maybe this will wake up Ariel Sharon, provided he has not assumed room temperature. Israel Lives!
Maybe this will wake up Ariel Sharon, provided he has not assumed room temperature. Israel Lives!
The state of Israel is probably doomed in the long run. Not as a direct result of politics, but demographics. In another 50 years, Jews will probably be a minority in Israel. And That will be the end of That.
It’s a shame for the Israelis that they never expanded the right of return to include Christians as well.
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I don’t think so. If they’ve got us beat on demographics, why do they get so bent out of shape over every new Jewish house built. They’re really scared of our demographics, first of all because the population growth projected has not materialized. Second, because the 1.6 kid secularists are becoming 7.70 kid Hasidim. Third, because of immigration, which has been increasing sharply lately, especially American immigrants such as me, who want out of Obamanomics.
“If they’ve got us beat on demographics, why do they get so bent out of shape over every new Jewish house built.”
They want the best hand they can play as well. Possession being 9/10 of things.
“Second, because the 1.6 kid secularists are becoming 7.70 kid Hasidim.”
A good trend that I wasn’t aware of. I’m not familiar enough with the details of Judaism regarding the Hasidim, orthodoxy, and military service. It doesn’t do you a lot of good to have a huge population if they’re not able to join the military. Again, I’m ignorant of the details but seem to recall that some more religious Jews do not serve in the IDF.
“Third, because of immigration, which has been increasing sharply lately, especially American immigrants such as me, who want out of Obamanomics.”
Very interesting. So, Israel has been seeing an uptick in Americans coming over? It’s a very pretty country with a nice climate. And darn near everyone seems to pack. So I could understand why people would like it.
There are Hasidim to whom the State of Israel is a secularist anathema, such as the Neturei Karta. But they aren’t the ones getting the new adherents. They’re into either Chabad, Breslov, Religious Zionism and Shlomo Karlbach music, or a hybrid of them all known as Habakuk (Chabad, Breslov, Rabbi Kook and Karlebach). They’re big in Judah and Shomron, and wear large knitted yarmulkas, oversized sidelocks, and hippy clothes, usually with a middle-eastern theme, sandles, loose white linen, robes. And they’re popping out babies at a very rapid rate. All that’s needed is a rabbinical decree permitting polygamy, and this trend can accelerate.
“They want the best hand they can play as well. Possession being 9/10 of things.”
They made it a capital crime to sell land to a Jew many moons ago, but now they’re getting serious about enforcing it. Landowners are being terrorized from the Galil to the Negev. It’s more than maneuvering for position. They’re scared of us.
Oh, and Hasidic and religious Jews are turning up in IDF uniforms more and more. I’ve even seen girls in a specially modest uniform with a long dress in lieu of pants.
Look, I couldn’t agree more, and I think the Palis are working the USA and Israel into more and more ridiculous concessions.
Jordan slaughtered and turned out the Pali’s in the 1970’s because they were trouble. Egypt can’t abide them either.
The fundamental issue is a nuclear Iran, or better, ‘the Islamic bomb’. Back when BN had adults he could reason with, the logic of a nuclear free Syria and Iran was plain. It was a waste of time and calories to go into it.
Now, with a muslim sympathizer, or perhaps a muslim in the WH, there’s new calculus in operation.
I heard Rush try to explain why so many Jews were so liberal here in the US, and the short answer was that they were liberal first, then Jewish, which made a great deal of sense to me. It affirms my own experience with many Jews, especially in NYC.
My very favorite people on earth are Jews, and my favorite country beyond the USA is Israel. the Jews are our fathers and brothers, especially to Christians, in so many ways.
I have instructed my family to watch BN’s speech, as I believe we’ll end up losing one, possibly more cities to a nuclear attack of some sort within the year.
I only hope that BN can hang on until we get an adult back in the WH. For that matter, if the election process goes badly for the Democrats here, I hope that Syria or Iran does not attempt an attach while the possibility of meaningful retribution from the US is an immediate impossibility.
“They made it a capital crime to sell land to a Jew many moons ago, but now they’re getting serious about enforcing it. Landowners are being terrorized from the Galil to the Negev.”
You mean Israeli Arab landowners being terrorized, or Jews? Or both?
Like your tagline by the way.
I gotta get back to Israel for a vacation. I’d really like to see some of these things.
One thing I’ve not seen much mention of is the minority Christian population in the country. Are they treated with the same disdain by the Arabs as the Jewish population, or do they occupy a different strata?
Jews. A new organization, Hashomer Hachadash is standing up for their rights in the Galil, but they’re very very busy. The Ihud Leumi party has been involved in forcing the police in the Negev to retrieve stolen live stock. The culprits in both regions are Bedouins. Land lords in Jerusalem are plagued by Arab squatters. In Judah and Shomron, Arabs are trying to enforce fictitious claims to registered Jewish lands.
I’ve read stories about the depopulation of Beit Lehem, but not much besides that. Aside from Christians, there are also Druze and Samaritans here, but to listen to the MSM, it’s just Muslim Arabs vs. the Jooos!
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