Skip to comments.Lesbian couple used me: sperm donor
Posted on 05/25/2011 6:44:59 PM PDT by smokingfrog
Neil Richards was so excited about the impending birth of his child 10 years ago he discussed building a home in the Blue Mountains for himself and the lesbian couple who had used his donated sperm to conceive.
Mr Richards, who answered the couple's advertisement in a magazine, said they agreed he should be involved in his daughter's life but exactly how was never decided.
He said he provided sperm to Jesse Star, now 49, paid $5000 for her fertility treatments at a Woollahra clinic and paid for the midwife who managed the home birth of the child in August 2001.
He had also agreed to father a child with Ms Star's partner, Sofia Marita, but that failed.
The two women separated in 2008.
Ten years on, after a tumultuous relationship between the three parents, Ms Marita is taking the NSW Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages and Mr Richards to court to have his name removed from the child's birth certificate.
It is the first case of its kind since the introduction of a retrospective law in 2008 giving lesbian couples equal parenting responsibilities or legal status.
Mr Richards, a 58-year-old retired real estate agent, said he had gone through ''10 years of hell'' and spent $50,000 on legal fees.
He has seen his daughter for five hours each fortnight since she was one. He paid $150 a week child support for her first year, though he is not legally obliged to, and paid one-third of her school fees for two years.
Last year, he allowed Ms Star, listed on the birth certificate as a clairvoyant and funeral celebrant, to stay at his Hazelbrook home for three months when she was unable to pay rent at her own home, he said.
(Excerpt) Read more at canberratimes.com.au ...
This man has no one to blame but himself for his predicament. If this had happened in the USA he’d be on the hook for an untold amount of child support. What a fool.
If most men haven’t figured this out yet, the majority of lesbians have a distinct revulsion of men. They don’t like men, period.
Ménage à duh!
There must be a daytime tv show for this guy.
Every lesbian I have ever met, has always treated me like a man.
...he provided sperm to Jesse Star, now 49, paid $5000 for her fertility treatments at a Woollahra clinic and paid for the midwife who managed the home birth of the child in August 2001. He had also agreed to father a child with Ms Star's partner, Sofia Marita, but that failed. The two women separated in 2008... Marita is taking the NSW Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages and Mr Richards to court to have his name removed from the child's birth certificate..."I can't belong to an organization that would have someone like me for a member."
These type people are not known for what we call high moral character, such as speaking the truth, doing what you say you will, treating others with kindness and fairness.
I am sure they consider their own actions to be moral but that comes from people who fit little to none of the values considered moral for thousands of years.
“If most men havent figured this out yet, the majority of lesbians have a distinct revulsion of men. They dont like men, period”
I was out with two friends last night, and one of them told me that recently when we’d all gone out with some colleagues, a butch lesbian in the group had propositioned him for a one night stand. Even when I think people can’t shock me any more, they do.
so 10 years ago, he wanted to be a Father, be involved with his child, and he had plenty of money...
...and all he could find was a lesbian couple, instead of a wife? what am i missing here? lots of good women pray for a good man, who’d care for her child, and give her some security...
They like their sperm though... oh... never mind.
This guy was stupid. Before he gave the sperm, he should have gone to a lawyer to get all these things ironed out. I am sure the lesbians were saying “oh this will be great. You can see the child anytime you want.” The baby was born and he was kicked to the curb.
I remember once ending up inadvertently being in the middle of a lesbian club meeting (I was reading in the room where they were to meet).
To make some small talk I mentioned the book I was reading to one of them. She told me she didn’t read books written by men.
I was young at the time. That was an eyeopener for me.
How could you possibly enjoy a film like that?
(Sorry Larry, this was just too obvious, needed to take a different angle.)
Funniest episode ever!
Maybe she decided he was a good DNA and financial source.
Maybe he’s a homo too?
Who could have foreseen that this arrangement would prove to be unstable?
Here now!! You boys cut that out!!
Yet another result of the repeal of sodomy laws.
He started it!
I know this guy should have had a lawyer examine all contracts before donating sperm but I can’t help but feel sorry for this guy. Maybe he just couldn’t find a woman to settle down with. He definitely should have considered adoption if he wanted a child he was actually allowed to spend time with but it’s hard for me to be down on a man that wanted to be a father so badly because we sure seem to have a shortage of men willing to be fathers nowadays. I’m not saying such men don’t exist, I’m sure there are plenty of loving fathers here on FR, but among the younger generation it is hopeless.
Let me see now, a lesbian couple might not be as stable as a hetero couple? Is that a possibility?
What does YAROTROSL mean?
Never mind, just figured it out. This is my brain on way too little sleep so sorry for the unnecessary post.
“She told me she didnt read books written by men.”
Not even men like Oscar Wilde?
“I know this guy should have had a lawyer examine all contracts before donating sperm”
That was the last thing on his mind before he got himself off.
If you read the full article, the law changed in 2008 giving them the “right” to eliminate him. Whatever the contract, it would be superseded by law.
>>> the majority of lesbians have a distinct revulsion of men.
You don’t have to be a lesbian for that. Just watching a Seth Rogan movie can do it.
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The children raised by sexually perverted mentally ill freaks should be immediately taken away from them and raised by normal married mothers and fathers. IVF or other artificial contraception leads to these insane and depraved relationships. And who suffers the most? The children.
I read the full article after posting and that is one messed up law. This Marita person is neither the biological mother nor has any relationship to the biological father so why should she be listed on the birth certificate and not him? Also, since when do laws apply retroactively?
This man acted foolishly, no question about it. But there are fools who arouse my contempt (such as the Loony Left) and there are fools that arouse my pity (such as this man). My heart goes out to this man and especially to this poor 10 year old girl who is being deprived of a father. These selfish, so called mothers, not so much.
What a mess. This is why religion and traditional cultures have rules and laws. This is why marriage is such an important institution and must be protected.
SoCal SoCon -=> Not even men like Oscar Wilde?
G.Legman tells the story of Frank Harris berating Wilde regarding his homosexuality (illegal at the time in Great Britan). Having convinced Wilde to restrain his very public behavior, Harris thought all was well.
Well, that is, until Harris walked in on Wilde one day when he, Wilde, had a young cockney lad bent over his desk.
“You sod,” quoth Harris, “I thought you were going to turn over a new leaf!”
“I am,” responded Wilde, “can’t you see I am at the bottom of the page now?”
Sorry, but mentioning Wilde reminded me of that story...
spot on which I find stupid when my fellow men think they all look like the Hollywood fake ones.
They are like they are because they don’;t like you, you are pathetic to them , they pretend to be you with their strap ons but hate you because you have the real thing and they have to buy plastic and wear it pretending to be you.
You posted: If most men havent figured this out yet, the majority of lesbians have a distinct revulsion of men. They dont like men, period.
Your observation is true and interesting, in light of the fact that so many lesbians, despite their apparent hatred of men, dress like men, act (kind of) like men, and employ “equipment” to function (kind of) like men in bed. Same thing in the opposite direction for homosexual men.
Hard to figure out, so I won’t try.
And those horrid parents raising a “genderless” baby!!! PUKE!!!
Trying to revolt against Nature’s Laws (and the Author!!!).
Such rebellion (may I use the word “demoniac”???) is destroying human civilization. It cannot continue and I am sure it won’t.
As if life is not complicated enough...we need to add every twisted freak option to the mix.
Funeral celebrant? WTH is that?
Yet many of them act like men.
I frankly believe that homosexuality is a personality disorder. Why?
Because men want to look like women to attract men, and women want to look like men to repel men. If you find that sentence confusing, read it again. To my mind, it isn’t even about sexual preferences; it seems more about ‘fear’.
So far no evidence has been found that homosexuality is genetic or biological. Hermaphrodites are a unique genetic circumstance unrelated to homosexuality.
...and that's the big mystery of it. It makes no sense for a woman that claims revulsion to men... to be attracted to a masculine woman. Or vice versa with men.
Women attracted to feminine women is at least easier to understand, being a man I can understand what makes women attractive. But then again, I don't for the life of me see what could make a man attractive to anyone. I just have to accept it as written that for most women, thankfully, it happens.
Okay, let’s list this whole thing out.
The first problem with this guy was about deliberately having a kid without marriage. Whether or not society accepts only this, it’s seriously time to get a clue that surrogate parenting (sperm donations) is something that gets rampant with lawsuits over the child’s custody. Personally, if people had enough sense to see how rampant and chalk full of court battles for child custody you could get for being either the sperm donor or recipient, I would be willing to bet the majority of people who tried would back off with at least a little common sense.
Second, do you think you can win an argument as being a father against a woman who can argue that she bore the child to term, not to mention can nurse it as well?
The whole thing was a great blasted deal of foolishness on this man’s part.
Speaking as a woman,I like men very much,as long as they take care of their appearance and hygiene.I’m just wondering why you would say that you can’t understand how anyone could be attracted to a man.Brains and a sense of humor are very important,but hygeine is also important.I can’t stand body odor.Blech.I don’t care about what they do in Europe.They have purses and pantyhose for men.Oy vey.
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