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To: sickoflibs

I can’t answer for the Ryan plan as I don’t read legal language. And I’ve not seen much except the libs explanation of Ryan’s. But we’ve all read plenty from Heritage, WSJ, Wash Times, Examiner to know 0’care is BAD.

Now they need to explain Ryan’s plan in the same way.

I still want answers to questions I’m not getting. Is it all cut/gut or are they going to ‘fix’ the 40 years of palm greasing they built into Medicare that drive up the cost.

Why are they only asking lobbyist who are usually former congress critters. No asking the patients who are most affected. Medicare is RATIONED health care. You are allowed a certain amount of days in hospital for any given illness. Even if you really need a couple of more days.

I shake my head, because no one is listening to the common man. We see what is happening, we can tell them, they don’t want to listen to the SERFS.


40 posted on 05/26/2011 7:53:18 PM PDT by GailA (NO DEMOCRATS or RINOS in 2012!)
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To: GailA; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; dalebert; Qbert; jeltz25
RE :”I can’t answer for the Ryan plan as I don’t read legal language. And I’ve not seen much except the libs explanation of Ryan’s.

Very simple, they give you a cash credit that you can use to help pay for private insurance. And what would the ‘insurance market’ look like for you when you are 75+?? Take the problems those at 55 have getting insurance when unemployed and multiple by 50. Aging and living means becoming more amd more sick and disabled.

If this was actually made law (which it will never be), as soon as it was signed the sponsors would immediately start warning us to save every penny or suffer dire consequences in the 10 years or whenever we turn 65. That is the given rational of the 10 years delay.

Think I imagine this? Last night I got a tangle with a couple of STRONG supporters who first said the dire predictions were all lies(Rush says that here too) and that it saves seniors, but once pressed argued that if you are 75 and are paralyized with a stroke and dont have the $ 0.5-1M required to live in a nursing home that you should expect to be just left to die, and it was both morally correct, and necessary because the current approach is stealing and unaffordable. They definitely got mad that I would put them on the spot with this very common example which makes things look more grey than white. They know what the plan is about and what the talking points are.

That point is the obvious is true and voters know it. My point, just tell me the truth. That is my #1. Dont try to sell me silly talking points, I cannot be misled. I couldnt on Obama-care and I wont on this.

41 posted on 05/26/2011 8:26:03 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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