This is NOT possible. I have given up trying to carry on a conversation with these people.
It's invariably, like trying to talk to a mental defective or a drunk...a real exercise in futility. If it doesn't start out as such, it will certainly end up that way
I’ve made a study of their mindset as a subset of my worldview studies,
so I understand the basis of their beliefs.
I had a really funny conversation once with a lib about welfare. I stated “liberals don’t care how much is wasted or fraudulently used as long as everyone who needs it gets it.”
The lib first vehemently denied the premise, stating “I do TOO care about the fraud and waste” slight pause “but it’s more important that the needy get the help they need.”
“Uh... that’s exactly what I just said you believe...”
“Uh... well... I’m going to have to think about it, but it sounded so MEAN when you said it.”