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'Genderless' Child Ignites Firestorm in Canada
Fox ^ | May 24, 2011 | Joshua Rhett Miller

Posted on 05/26/2011 2:07:25 PM PDT by NYer

A Toronto couple raising their 4-month-old without identifying the child as a boy or a girl have created a media firestorm in Canada, where some have likened the scenario to a "bizarre lab experiment" that seeks to undo thousands of years of social evolution.

Kathy Witterick, 38, and David Stocker, 39, are raising their third child, Storm, to be free of societal norms regarding gender. Is Storm male or female? The parents won't say, so no one knows except Storm's older brothers, Jazz and Kio, as well as a close family friend and two midwives who helped deliver the baby, according to the Toronto Star.

Since publishing a story about the couple on Saturday, the newspaper has received a "rush of responses" from readers, including some who believe the Toronto couple is acting "very selfish" and "very inconsiderate" in their attempt to undo evolution. Others, meanwhile, told the newspaper that "breaking social norms" is not synonymous with bad parenting.

Attempts to reach Witterick and Stocker -- who reportedly works as a teacher at City View Alternative, a small middle school in Toronto -- were unsuccessful on Tuesday. In a follow-up Toronto Star story on Monday, the couple told the newspaper that they have decided not to conduct any additional interviews.

"We don't want them to feel like exotic bugs, and when consulted, they said no thanks to more media attention," Witterick wrote the newspaper in an email.

Clinton Anderson, director of the American Psychological Association's Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual Concerns Office, told FoxNews.com that while the organization supports gender nondiscrimination, there is no research available regarding potential harms or benefits to raising a so-called genderless child.

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TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: family; gaystapo; gender; gendersecrecy; pedophiles; perverts
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1 posted on 05/26/2011 2:07:28 PM PDT by NYer
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To: wagglebee

Seems to be a non issue. The older siblings will clue the child in on its gender and ... poof! ... goodbye experiment.


2 posted on 05/26/2011 2:08:35 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

Obvious the kid is a boy. If you want to really raise a genderless child, really neuter the kid. /ikid


3 posted on 05/26/2011 2:09:00 PM PDT by rokkitapps
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To: NYer

The child is not “genderless”, he has male or female chromosomes, parts, and hardwired behavioral tendencies.

The parents are kooks, but I would NOT advocate that the state get involved in their parenting choices.

I would just say they better set up a “psychiatric fund” instead of a college fund.


4 posted on 05/26/2011 2:09:15 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: NYer

Maybe not - they are raising the older brother to be a drag queen.


5 posted on 05/26/2011 2:10:03 PM PDT by rokkitapps
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To: NYer

Appears the older kids don’t know THEIR gender either - both boys but look like a couple of girls.

Weirdos.


6 posted on 05/26/2011 2:10:10 PM PDT by RockinRight (Cain-McCotter is a much better ticket than McCain-Kotter.)
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To: NYer

Can’t we find out if Storm is really a boy, and if so, shower him with G.I. Joe and gun toys to annoy his unfortunate idiot parents.


7 posted on 05/26/2011 2:10:36 PM PDT by montag813
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To: NYer

This child will end up HOMO, or at the very least carrying a European over the shoulder bag.


8 posted on 05/26/2011 2:11:13 PM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: MrB

I pity the poor teachers:

“Ok, boys in this line, girls in this line..um, Storm...”

:/


9 posted on 05/26/2011 2:11:33 PM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: NYer

and yet the same Canadian Government that took the Dionne Quintuplets away allows these morons to keep him


10 posted on 05/26/2011 2:11:59 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: NYer

One girl was called Jean Marie
Another little girl was called Felicity
Another little girl was Sally Joy
The other was me, and I’m a boy

My name is Bill and I’m a headcase
They practice making up on my face
Yeah, I feel lucky if I get trousers to wear
Spend ages taking hairpins from my hair


11 posted on 05/26/2011 2:13:35 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: montag813

My SIL tried to give her boys a “genderless” toybox. One day my girls were over and they showed them that if you bend a Barbie over, she makes a neat gun.

They ran around yelling “Pew, pew, pew!” while my SIL had a hissy fit.


12 posted on 05/26/2011 2:13:58 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: NYer

“In a follow-up Toronto Star story on Monday, the couple told the newspaper that they have decided not to conduct any additional interviews.

“We don’t want them to feel like exotic bugs, and when consulted, they said no thanks to more media attention,” Witterick wrote the newspaper in an email.”

The parents are responsible for releasing their demented decision to the public, and now they don’t wish to feel like “exotic bugs”? Well, the dye has been cast. They wanted attention, and now they’re getting. Not only were the parents complete selfish in using their child to make a public spectacle and statement, they are also disturbed to raise their child as if there is no gender.

And one’s a teacher, no less.


13 posted on 05/26/2011 2:14:15 PM PDT by This Just In (In America, RINO's belong in zoo's, not public office)
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To: netmilsmom

LOL!


14 posted on 05/26/2011 2:17:12 PM PDT by This Just In (In America, RINO's belong in zoo's, not public office)
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To: NYer

This proves, without a doubt, that liberalism is a mental disease.


15 posted on 05/26/2011 2:17:20 PM PDT by adorno
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To: rokkitapps

Sure looks like a boy to me. His hair’s just not grown long enough that they can make him look girly like their two other “sons”. How bizarre.


16 posted on 05/26/2011 2:17:26 PM PDT by GnuHere
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To: Politicalmom

One article I read said they were homeschooling him to avoid exposure to influences that they want to shelter him from.

Indeed, people _should_ homeschool to avoid exposure to influences that they want to shelter their children from, especially liberal humanism.


17 posted on 05/26/2011 2:17:38 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: This Just In
Well, the dye has been cast.

And it won't wash out. Stains are like that.

18 posted on 05/26/2011 2:18:49 PM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: NYer

19 posted on 05/26/2011 2:18:54 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: netmilsmom

Or they pick up a carrot and make a gun out of it,
or they bite their toast into a gun...

I have a 6 mo old boy that bangs the crap out of things - the girls never did that.


20 posted on 05/26/2011 2:19:35 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: billorites

Is one a girl?


21 posted on 05/26/2011 2:20:20 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: This Just In

There is the well known case in Canada in which (twin?) boys were neutered and raised as girls at the direction of a nut case psychiatrist who believed gender is completely determined by environment. There may have been a more recent single case, IIRC, the boy eventually threatened to kill the doctor involved, and eventually committed suicide.

Not sure why people are saying this is all new, or that it isn’t already known denying a child’s gender has disastrous effects.


22 posted on 05/26/2011 2:21:33 PM PDT by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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To: MrB

I wouldn’t want to be one of Witterick’s students.


23 posted on 05/26/2011 2:22:30 PM PDT by This Just In (In America, RINO's belong in zoo's, not public office)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

The Who - I’m a Boy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ64urPLfv8


24 posted on 05/26/2011 2:22:47 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: adorno

The article didn’t say anything about their political leanings,
how do you know they’re liberals?

(/SARC)


25 posted on 05/26/2011 2:26:22 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Williams

Actually, if the boy had killed the doc, it would have been entirely justified.


26 posted on 05/26/2011 2:28:03 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Williams

I am of the opinion that families should be free to raise their children in what way the please, but there are decision which not only endanger the lives of the children, but society in general.

These cases are a perfect example. The parents are negligent in their responsibilities, if not criminal in their conduct.

This is political. Throughout our country, Christian homeschooling parents are being arrest simply for choosing to educate their children at home, and these people are being displayed as if we should all embrace their “Progressive” ideas.

This is abhorrent.


27 posted on 05/26/2011 2:28:38 PM PDT by This Just In (In America, RINO's belong in zoo's, not public office)
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To: dfwgator

H. G. Wells’ ‘Time Machine’, in the future, the people were cowardly eunich-types. This is what libs want.


28 posted on 05/26/2011 2:29:10 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( Ft. Lauderdale Florida)
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To: NYer

Keep the child away from bell towers when he or she is 18. This should be deemed child abuse.


29 posted on 05/26/2011 2:31:28 PM PDT by Augustinian monk
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To: bicyclerepair

If they are raising a genderless child it is obvious that they one day intend for him to play defense for the Toronto Maple Leafs...


30 posted on 05/26/2011 2:33:52 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
If they are raising a genderless child it is obvious that they one day intend for him to play defense for the Toronto Maple Leafs...

OUCH!

31 posted on 05/26/2011 2:34:46 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: RockinRight
Appears the older kids don’t know THEIR gender either - both boys but look like a couple of girls.

Maybe it’ll have the opposite effect if lil’ Stormy is a boy:

And he said “Son this world is rough
and if a man's gonna make it he's got to be tough
and I know I wouldn't be there to help you along
so I give you that name and I said goodbye
I knew you'd have to get tough or die
and it's that name that helped to make you strong”

32 posted on 05/26/2011 2:36:34 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: bicyclerepair
*H. G. Wells’ ‘Time Machine’, in the future, the people were cowardly eunich-types. This is what libs want.*

That’s what the public schools have been teaching the kids for the last 30 years.

“In a thousand years there won't be any more men or women. We'll all be wankers”
~Trainspotting

33 posted on 05/26/2011 2:41:52 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: NYer

These nutcase weirdos are making their kids into nutcase weirdos.


34 posted on 05/26/2011 2:42:39 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: MrB

Ya got that right!

My newest Godson and his brother came in with my niece for my daughter’s Confirmation. Being the sponsor, my niece had to sit with my daughter in the main while we watched her boys.

Three of us, my hubby, my 11-year-old and myself watched these boys. Holy Moly! They were work! They are 2 and 4.


35 posted on 05/26/2011 2:42:54 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: NYer

With whack job parents like this, my guess is the kid is a boy. They’ve got two boys. Probably wanted a girl. Besides, in this brave new society, there is nothing wrong with girls and everything wrong with boys; it’s so easy to denigrate males. This is just a very odd way of both showing how hip the couple is and denigrating males. (The psyc bills for the kid later on should only amount to 20 or 30K.)


36 posted on 05/26/2011 2:47:19 PM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: PATRIOT1876
'N YA AUGHTA THANK US BEFORE YA DIE.. FOR THE GRAVEL IN YER GUTS N THE SPIT N YER EYE... 'CAUSE WE'RE THE WACKOS THAT NAMED U SUE......

I THINK CANADA IS WAY TO CLOSE TO CALLIE FOR IT'S OWN GOOD...THIS IS SAN FRANCISCO CRAPOLO....


37 posted on 05/26/2011 2:55:37 PM PDT by flat
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To: netmilsmom
Re: They were work! They are 2 and 4.

Tell me about it. We keep our grandsons 2 days a week... ages 3 and almost 5. My wife grew up an only child and has wondered "Is it normal for brothers to fight like that"? Since I had 3 siblings, I can only answer "Yes".

38 posted on 05/26/2011 2:55:40 PM PDT by ken in texas (Can't Afford a Tagline... send money.)
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To: This Just In

“Throughout our country, Christian homeschooling parents are being arrest simply for choosing to educate their children at home”

Where?


39 posted on 05/26/2011 3:02:13 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: ken in texas

I’m constantly amazed at how brothers can beat the crap out of each other and survive.


40 posted on 05/26/2011 3:07:33 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: NYer

>> “The older siblings will clue the child in on its gender...” <<

.
You mean sex?

Nothing that is alive can have a gender.

Gender is for inanimate nouns and pronouns.


41 posted on 05/26/2011 3:12:33 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: Politicalmom

>> “I pity the poor teachers” <<

.
Its mostly teachers that push this crap.


42 posted on 05/26/2011 3:15:09 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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To: 6SJ7

My 10 year old has decided he wants to be a psychiatrist...if he can land Storm as a patient he could be off to a great start.


43 posted on 05/26/2011 3:20:39 PM PDT by Spudx7
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To: MrB

BS! This is pure child abuse if I have ever seen it. These parents are expiramenting on their child for their own selfish reasons! These kids need to be taken away from the adults, because they sure as crap aren’t parents!


44 posted on 05/26/2011 4:18:43 PM PDT by vpintheak (Democrats: Robbing humans of their dignity 1 law at a time)
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To: NYer

This is no experiment. After a few years, the parents will declare their kid to be of the opposite sex and force the kid to undergo a surgery. All their kids should be given away to foster care and the parents should be arrested.


45 posted on 05/26/2011 4:39:59 PM PDT by JimWayne
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To: haroldeveryman

haroldeveryman,

These links involve cases I quickly searched for on the HSLDA website. There are much more, if you care to search.

Michigan Father Arrested for Homeschooling

http://www.hslda.org/docs/news/hslda/200302/200302070.asp?PrinterFriendly=True

State v. Mr. and Mrs. C
Blind mother fights for right to home school

http://nche.hslda.org/legal/state/al/20010324StatevC/default.asp

Parents Arrested for Failing to Register Their Homeschool

http://www.hslda.org/hs/state/ny/201001050.asp

Cover Story
The Story of the Cressy family in New York

By Lee Ann Bisulca

Arrested for Homeschooling

http://www.hslda.org/courtreport/V27N2/V27N201.asp

State v. S
Father illegally arrested for homeschooling

http://www.hslda.org/Legal/state/mi/2002StateVsS/default.asp


46 posted on 05/26/2011 9:16:13 PM PDT by This Just In (In America, RINO's belong in zoo's, not public office)
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To: This Just In

Thank you for the reply. Very interesting. After seeing the disgusting spectacle in Wisconsin presented by our public education establishment, maybe it should come as no surprise that home-schoolers would be subjected to legal harassment. Our public school officials ought to take a good look in the mirror (and then at their student’s reading and math scores) before they accuse home schoolers of “child endangerment”.


47 posted on 05/26/2011 10:44:51 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: haroldeveryman

We have educated our children here at home for many years. Our family has been threatened by the school superintendent. He had stated that the school planned to, “go after homeschoolers”. The superintendent did not state any legal authority concerning his intent, but the action was to intimidate home educators in the area.

This plan worked for at least one family. They did not know their rights, and had no legal representation. They immediately enrolled their children in the public school.

When we were notified of the superintendents decision, we informed a school board member that if the sup wished to threaten us, they could do so through our attorneys. The superintendent wisely withdrew this “brilliant” plan.

There are countless cases involving law abiding citizens whom are harassed, have their children taken from the family, and/or falsely arrested simply because they home educate their children. Naturally, the general public are not aware of these constitutional violations.


48 posted on 05/26/2011 11:02:28 PM PDT by This Just In (In America, RINO's belong in zoo's, not public office)
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To: vpintheak; netmilsmom; metmom
BS! This is pure child abuse if I have ever seen it. These parents are expiramenting on their child for their own selfish reasons! These kids need to be taken away from the adults, because they sure as crap aren’t parents!

Tell me how this argument couldn't be used with regard to Christian homeschoolers.

49 posted on 05/27/2011 5:39:30 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB; vpintheak; netmilsmom
Tell me how this argument couldn't be used with regard to Christian homeschoolers.

It has been and the result has been kids yanked from their homes simply for failure to toe the public school party line.

50 posted on 05/27/2011 6:50:42 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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