Skip to comments.NOTICE: FR DOES NOT AND WILL NOT SUPPORT ABORTIONIST, GAY RIGHTS PUSHING BIG GOVERNMENT STATISTS
Posted on 05/26/2011 8:31:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
NOTICE: FR DOES NOT AND WILL NOT SUPPORT ABORTIONIST, GAY RIGHTS PUSHING BIG GOVERNMENT STATISTS FOR PRESIDENT!!
This message is intended for those posters on FR who seem to have missed my prior statements in this regard and insist on advocating for these bastards.
I'd rather shut the place down than be involved in any effort to install abortionist/gay rights pushing RINOS like Romney or Giuliani into the White House!!
Do NOT push this crap on FR. Take your business elsewhere!! And I don't care how long you've been here!!
and I got the beast-and-a-half
That’s to make it easier to read between the lines.
Not much can hide there.
(At least that’s how it seems to me.)
Your mileage may vary.
Find it yourself!
I’m waiting for Beast and a Half!
Always a bridesmaid...
Beast-and-a-half has arrived and gone
Where were you ???
I got the same, also.
Yeah but you and the goats do look purty
I’ll bet all the other anti-Romneys” got the same also
From a retread most likely
You would not believe how many times I have gotten flamed by the libertarian fringe that trolls FR ... Does not matter how well-reasoned the logic against them ... They go bonkers when you call a spade a spade.
FR will attack just about anything. Grow a thick skin and just state your opinion.
The revolutionaries of course. You do realize that only about a 1/3 of the colonist were for The Declaration of Independence! I’m for the Constitution first. the problem we have is you have all these moderates and liberals on the East and Left Coast. I will be for any true Conservative and or Tea Party candidate in the Primaries. Having said that if Rudy or Mitt end up with the nomination I will vote for them over Zero!
You think that you get flamed by libertarians you should see what I get when I post their party platforms, and names of some of the people that are public libertarians.
I’ve been looking for this one
a goody from 2008
an out-of-control Romney meltdown
the bit at the end where Romney chases this poor guy around the store is missing but the reporter mentions it
Romney and Julie-Annie can’t win, and they are RINO statists.
Julie-Annie’s recent movements towards announcement are troubling. They can only serve as a diversion from genuine, acceptable conservative candidates which is why the mainstream media is pushing him.
Aside from their unacceptable politics, they are OLD FISH!!!
Old Fish NEVER sell!!!
I’m not big on that one, I like the real clear gotchas.
Ok heres take Video with the end bit
No country, no government, no societyand no individualmay claim the authority to divorce personal morality from government. While individual human beings each possesses free will to choose right from wrong, yet none may ever claim a “right” to choose wrong, no matter the circumstance, and yet this gross distortion of liberty is the central premise behind the libertarian movement.
Morality and civics are inseparable. Both are requisite aspects of the temporal order, as ordained by Divine authority. Each requires the other in cooperation and spirited participation; else chaos and societal collapse prevail. Human society is only as good as the individuals that form its lesser parts. If in any culture the individual actors are morally corrupt, then those faults will begin to overshadow, and eventually seduce the society as a whole. Under such conditions the government of that society must fall, for it is no more than a composite of the individual parts.
However, this logic is banished from the libertarian mind, and in its place is a false conservatism that seeks to conserve only that which opposes authority and elevates the individual to his own godhoodI shall not serve!” roared Luciferand the cry is no less revolutionary from the mouths of the libertines, particularly those who have invaded the conservative movement.
Libertarian-inclined groups have implemented a systematic coup of grassroots conservatism, such as the Tea Party movement. One of the more well-known organizationsTea Party Patriotshave condoned and promoted indifference towards those moral principles fundamental to the Constitution and within the greater conservative movement.
TPP leadership, acting in union with members of its lesser hierarchy, sought to foment resistance against objective cultural norms of behavior. Leaders within the organization went so far as to state that the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution were not influenced by Christian doctrine.
The perverse rationale now used to poison the Tea Party movement is that moral imperatives must be subordinate to fiscal concerns; however, this reasoning is diametrically opposite to the truth: objective morality is necessary to right any magnitude of fiscal chaos: Social defects create financial defects.
Prudence and regard for the right order of human society demand that we not ignore the divinely ordained restraints on personal and public behavior. History proves the root cause of national distress is always moral bankruptcy of the culture. Without exception, moral depravity precipitates financial collapse, and therefore objective norms of morality must always take precedence in civil deliberations, no matter their context. Astute men of history consistently teach this axiom:
“But what is liberty without wisdom, and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness, without tuition or restraint.” Edmund Burke
“Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.” Alexis de Tocqueville
“The fool who has not sense to discriminate between what is good and what is bad is well nigh as dangerous as the man who does discriminate and yet chooses the bad.” Theodore Roosevelt
A Catholic attorney correctly summarized the failings of the libertarian philosophy thus:
“Libertarianism has to do with maximum individual freedom, without restraint or limitation. The libertarian principle is thus antithetical to the concept of morality. This is not to say that individual libertarians are not moral people; but they are moral people only insofar as they are acting inconsistently with libertarianism. They are good folks because they are bad libertarians.
Edmund Burke understood quite that liberty not license, but true liberty was connected to moral order, to the linking of people together by the bonds of custom, tradition, religion, fellow-feeling and virtue. Absent those qualities, individuals are incapable of governing themselves and the state must rise to provide order and security for the populace.
Burke’s point is that morality embraced by the individual but also reflected in the public institutions and laws of a given culture must have a role in the public square, otherwise tyranny will lurk at the door until an opening arises. Libertarianism makes this situation more likely, not less. Rather than being a guard against tyranny, libertarianism makes the collapse of freedom more likely, not less, by replacing liberty with license and eroding the connections between people that are essential for both personal and private morality.
In this, libertarianism shows forth its origins as an ideological movement, grounded not in the preservation of rights and duties traditionally understood, but rather the dogmatic erosion of civic community and social order necessary for the concepts of rights and duties to exist within the interactions of human beings with each other.
The entire idea of libertarianism is self-refuting. Again, this is not to say that individual libertarians are incapable of virtue or devoid of moral conduct. It is to say that insofar as they are virtuous and moral, it is because they are not really libertarians.”
(End Catholic citation.)
So, when any national movement, whether in its general platform or through lesser hierarchy, chooses to shun transcendent moral imperatives in favor of fiscal conservatism, then you have the briny gutter wash of libertarianism rolling across the land. If it is not immediately confronted and routed, then it will inevitably poison the well.
Time-tested principles of objective reality are not open to subjective criticism. The irony of the “patriot” group that follows this course is that to abandon moral principles for political necessity will only work to embolden those individuals whose bad actions would precipitate further fiscal disruptions!
So, for reason of an uncertain numerical advantage, which some politicos assert will restore our republican virtue of free market capitalism, we conservatives are asked to remain complacent to the further subversion of Americas cultural moreslimits that constitute the requisite for ordered libertyand thus prosperity. How then shall our markets be free, if they are premised to operate without a public bulwark of moral restraint? By such rationale slavery and human trafficking must have free reign, for they might serve some sector of the market.
In the final measure the moral severance advanced by libertarians, while calculated to gain tactical advantage over those who desire our enslavement, will prove to impose further bondage on American society; because such severance fails to recognize and uphold the immutable laws prescribed by the Divine author of all human society. In effect, libertarianism would kill the moral spirit that the body may live in greater prosperity; but without the animating moral spirit, the body dies ... and no amount of “free market” capitalism will resurrect it from the grave.
The failure of any allegedly conservative and patriotic organization to uphold objective moral principle, pretending some higher goal commands greater loyalty, is intellectually dishonest at best. A fatal flaw in discernment exists at some level of the leadershipand this error, unchallenged and unchecked, will affect a pernicious influence upon the conservative movement in general. Repeated efforts must therefore be undertaken by we who recognize the flaw of moral severance, so to teach and guide those deceived by vain men; for we understand that true liberty requires a moral foundation to be prosperous.
Long Live Free Republic!
D@mn shame about the car, though...
Yes! Thanks, Jim!
Hi. Im Mike from Omaha, Nebraska. Im new to Free Republic. I came here because Im a Republican and usually vote Republican.
FIVE more FReepMails to me with this same message in a bottle for help
I cant help you you need a doctor
and yet no posts on the open threads
Action like a true liberal troll
Just like your hero Williard Mitt Romney
too cowardly to pick up a gun and go to war for himself
he hid behind other men
Dont send me any more FReepMails
If you have something to say to me say it to my face in the open thread
after all I’m 5 foot 2 and a senior citizen
I shouldnt be too much of a challenge to a big stapling guy like you
Granted I’ll smack you around a bit troll baby
but I may let you have a girlie penalty of a few feeble taps first
Not tough at all. If Romney (or any other abortionist/homosexualist/statist RINO) is the Republican candidate, the Republican party has left me. FR will work to get a pro-life, pro-family, pro-liberty conservative Tea Party candidate elected.
97 posted on 05/26/2011 9:08:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
What you are asking is what will the tea party movement do if the republicans dont listen to them. I guess well cross that bridge when we come to it...AND THEN BURN IT THE * DOWN! the rebublican party must be made to understand that we will destroy their party if they do not shape up. Im talking voting third party. Thats my opinion.
101 posted on 05/26/2011 9:08:44 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
We vote 3rd Party for president, even if it gets us 4 more years of Obozo, but we vote for conservative, limited government candidates for the House and Senate.
When the RINO elite wake up the next morning they would have a Dimwit in the WH and a truly conservative Congress that is not beholding to the RINO elite.
We have been taking it up the @ss for too long from the RINO establishment elite in the party and in the talking head circles who have been telling us to vote against our principles for the "moderate" candidate that can win.
Well the mid-terms should have served as a wake up call to the RINO establishment that we aren't going to follow that paradigm anymore. And we need to remember what they did to Joe Miller and the Wiccan in NJ...siding with party over the voters. The elite need to go and so do the RINO's already in Congress.
Just my $02.
My gay brother died of AIDS. He and our whole family suffered mightily for the dangerous life threatening anti-society homosexual agenda.
Thank you so much Jim Robinson!!!
If Romney gets the nod, he will continue most if not all of Obama atrocities including Obama Care. That goes for any RINO that the GOP establishment tries to push again!!! A Rino, even if they beat Obama, will destroy what is left of the Conservative voters. By keeping liberal policies in place the left will get to point their fingers of blame at 4 years with a Republican at the helm, the one that took over after Obama. Only a Conservative this time please!!
We're like a healthy immune system that has built up over the years.
Not much can get past us any more.
We've got some real, hungry leukocytes here - waiting to pounce.
I've got 'em trained so they chase ME!
Sexual Freedom League?
The things one learns...
I like Godzilla.
A Godzilla facepalm is the worst one to get, IMO.
The fail is strong in uscabjd.
I got a FReepmail from him as well.
My key point was that if you separate the idea of “partnerships” from the idea of “sex,” then the idea of allowing “civil unions” isn’t necessarily non-conservative. I am not an advocate of special rights for gays, just a fan of freedom.
Interestingly, some of the comments I’ve gotten indicate that this kind of thing is already possible under current law, though perhaps somewhat difficult to orchestrate.
I’m noticed that as well.
Cockroaches hate light.
I’m with you and proud of it!
JR, just in case you didn’t see this video, ping to post 1,016.
What a liar and hypocrite Romney is.
And on television.
The only one he’s convincing is himself and his loyal romneybot supporters. The rest of us can see that he’s just splitting hairs.
Semantics is right.
Ping to excellent post 1,020.
I don’t like Romney and would not vote for him in a primary and I don’t think he’s going to get the nomination. But if he does end up being the Rep candidate and a bunch of Reps sit home on election day then Obama will get four more years.
I’m all for the better if not perfect outcome. At least with a guy in your own party you can exert pressure to get him in line especially if both houses of Congress are in Rep hands.
Conversely, if Obama gets four more years then he will simply veto everything a Rep Congress passes allowing Obamacare and everything else to remain in place. The longer it remains in place then the harder it will be to get rid of to the point that it will become permanent. Not a victory for us.
What’s the difference between them?
Who ran a crappy campaign. Whatever deficiencies McCain had, he’s not a crypto-Marxist like Obama. I sure would have liked S.P. as Veep compared to the idiot Biden.
Besides, in 2008 the media was so in the tank for the clean and articulate black man, I doubt even the best candidate could have won.
Enjoy your four more years of Obama.
I seriously doubt McCain would have proposed Israel return to its 1967 borders. I seriously doubt that McCain would have slapped the Brits in the face.
Just to start.
What’s the difference between them? Obama chose Biden as a running mate. McCain chose Palin.
Sorry. I was referring to Romney and Obama, but my question is irrelevant.
Fight the party elites or lose America.
Agreed. These phonies are killing us.
>I got a FReepmail from him as well.
Seems strange that people would have to be told this, but OK.
It’s like a choice between slow poison or a fast one.
Yes. Mr. Trisham and I have a “discussion” about this every so often. Neither one of us is willing to give in. :)