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NOTICE: FR DOES NOT AND WILL NOT SUPPORT ABORTIONIST, GAY RIGHTS PUSHING BIG GOVERNMENT STATISTS
vanity | May 26, 2011 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/26/2011 8:31:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

NOTICE: FR DOES NOT AND WILL NOT SUPPORT ABORTIONIST, GAY RIGHTS PUSHING BIG GOVERNMENT STATISTS FOR PRESIDENT!!

This message is intended for those posters on FR who seem to have missed my prior statements in this regard and insist on advocating for these bastards.

I'd rather shut the place down than be involved in any effort to install abortionist/gay rights pushing RINOS like Romney or Giuliani into the White House!!

Do NOT push this crap on FR. Take your business elsewhere!! And I don't care how long you've been here!!


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To: Elsie

YEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS

Iz good

:)


1,001 posted on 05/27/2011 10:13:06 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Elsie

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

and I got the beast-and-a-half

:)


1,002 posted on 05/27/2011 10:16:14 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: vox_freedom

That’s to make it easier to read between the lines.

Not much can hide there.

(At least that’s how it seems to me.)

Your mileage may vary.


1,003 posted on 05/27/2011 10:20:36 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Find it yourself!

I’m waiting for Beast and a Half!


1,004 posted on 05/27/2011 10:22:07 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

Always a bridesmaid...


1,005 posted on 05/27/2011 10:23:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

Beast-and-a-half has arrived and gone

Where were you ???

:)


1,006 posted on 05/27/2011 10:24:13 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

I got the same, also.


1,007 posted on 05/27/2011 10:24:43 PM PDT by SouthernClaire (HE must increase)
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To: Elsie

Yeah but you and the goats do look purty

:)


1,008 posted on 05/27/2011 10:25:13 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: SouthernClaire

I’ll bet all the other anti-Romneys” got the same also

From a retread most likely


1,009 posted on 05/27/2011 10:26:37 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: DollyCali

GOP...

Gutless
Old
Progressives


1,010 posted on 05/27/2011 10:41:55 PM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !When a majority of the American)
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To: metmom

You would not believe how many times I have gotten flamed by the libertarian fringe that trolls FR ... Does not matter how well-reasoned the logic against them ... They go bonkers when you call a spade a spade.


1,011 posted on 05/27/2011 10:45:27 PM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !When a majority of the American)
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To: TCH

FR will attack just about anything. Grow a thick skin and just state your opinion.


1,012 posted on 05/27/2011 10:47:15 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

The revolutionaries of course. You do realize that only about a 1/3 of the colonist were for The Declaration of Independence! I’m for the Constitution first. the problem we have is you have all these moderates and liberals on the East and Left Coast. I will be for any true Conservative and or Tea Party candidate in the Primaries. Having said that if Rudy or Mitt end up with the nomination I will vote for them over Zero!


1,013 posted on 05/27/2011 11:11:41 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: TCH

You think that you get flamed by libertarians you should see what I get when I post their party platforms, and names of some of the people that are public libertarians.


1,014 posted on 05/27/2011 11:19:01 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: Jim Robinson

sfl


1,015 posted on 05/27/2011 11:30:31 PM PDT by phockthis
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To: ansel12

I’ve been looking for this one

a goody from 2008

an out-of-control Romney meltdown

the bit at the end where Romney chases this poor guy around the store is missing but the reporter mentions it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NLo7nnHgfs


1,016 posted on 05/27/2011 11:46:12 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Jim Robinson

Romney and Julie-Annie can’t win, and they are RINO statists.

Julie-Annie’s recent movements towards announcement are troubling. They can only serve as a diversion from genuine, acceptable conservative candidates which is why the mainstream media is pushing him.

Aside from their unacceptable politics, they are OLD FISH!!!

Old Fish NEVER sell!!!


1,017 posted on 05/27/2011 11:47:52 PM PDT by ZULU (Lindsey Graham is a nanometrical pustule of pusillanimous putrescence)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I’m not big on that one, I like the real clear gotchas.


1,018 posted on 05/27/2011 11:51:40 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: Tennessee Nana

Ok heres take Video with the end bit

Romney meltdown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdGUSjd3Tmo&feature=related


1,019 posted on 05/28/2011 12:01:33 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Durus; All

No country, no government, no society—and no individual—may claim the authority to divorce personal morality from government. While individual human beings each possesses free will to choose right from wrong, yet none may ever claim a “right” to choose wrong, no matter the circumstance, and yet this gross distortion of liberty is the central premise behind the libertarian movement.

Morality and civics are inseparable. Both are requisite aspects of the temporal order, as ordained by Divine authority. Each requires the other in cooperation and spirited participation; else chaos and societal collapse prevail. Human society is only as good as the individuals that form its lesser parts. If in any culture the individual actors are morally corrupt, then those faults will begin to overshadow, and eventually seduce the society as a whole. Under such conditions the government of that society must fall, for it is no more than a composite of the individual parts.

However, this logic is banished from the libertarian mind, and in its place is a false conservatism that seeks to “conserve” only that which opposes authority and elevates the individual to his own godhood—‘I shall not serve!” roared Lucifer—and the cry is no less revolutionary from the mouths of the libertines, particularly those who have invaded the conservative movement.

Libertarian-inclined groups have implemented a systematic coup of grassroots conservatism, such as the Tea Party movement. One of the more well-known organizations—Tea Party Patriots—have condoned and promoted indifference towards those moral principles fundamental to the Constitution and within the greater conservative movement.

TPP leadership, acting in union with members of its lesser hierarchy, sought to foment resistance against objective cultural norms of behavior. Leaders within the organization went so far as to state that the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution were not influenced by Christian doctrine.

The perverse rationale now used to poison the Tea Party movement is that moral imperatives must be subordinate to fiscal concerns; however, this reasoning is diametrically opposite to the truth: objective morality is necessary to right any magnitude of fiscal chaos: Social defects create financial defects.

Prudence and regard for the right order of human society demand that we not ignore the divinely ordained restraints on personal and public behavior. History proves the root cause of national distress is always moral bankruptcy of the culture. Without exception, moral depravity precipitates financial collapse, and therefore objective norms of morality must always take precedence in civil deliberations, no matter their context. Astute men of history consistently teach this axiom:

“But what is liberty without wisdom, and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness, without tuition or restraint.” –Edmund Burke

“Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.” –Alexis de Tocqueville

“The fool who has not sense to discriminate between what is good and what is bad is well nigh as dangerous as the man who does discriminate and yet chooses the bad.” –Theodore Roosevelt

A Catholic attorney correctly summarized the failings of the libertarian philosophy thus:

“Libertarianism has to do with maximum individual freedom, without restraint or limitation. The libertarian principle is thus antithetical to the concept of morality. This is not to say that individual libertarians are not moral people; but they are moral people only insofar as they are acting inconsistently with libertarianism. They are good folks because they are bad libertarians.

Edmund Burke understood quite that liberty – not license, but true liberty – was connected to moral order, to the linking of people together by the bonds of custom, tradition, religion, fellow-feeling and virtue. Absent those qualities, individuals are incapable of governing themselves and the state must rise to provide order and security for the populace.

Burke’s point is that morality – embraced by the individual but also reflected in the public institutions and laws of a given culture – must have a role in the public square, otherwise tyranny will lurk at the door until an opening arises. Libertarianism makes this situation more likely, not less. Rather than being a guard against tyranny, libertarianism makes the collapse of freedom more likely, not less, by replacing liberty with license and eroding the connections between people that are essential for both personal and private morality.

In this, libertarianism shows forth its origins as an ideological movement, grounded not in the preservation of rights and duties traditionally understood, but rather the dogmatic erosion of civic community and social order necessary for the concepts of rights and duties to exist within the interactions of human beings with each other.
The entire idea of libertarianism is self-refuting. Again, this is not to say that individual libertarians are incapable of virtue or devoid of moral conduct. It is to say that insofar as they are virtuous and moral, it is because they are not really libertarians.”

http://markinspokane.blogspot.com/2011/01/libertarianism-and-erosion-of-civic.html

(End Catholic citation.)

So, when any national movement, whether in its general platform or through lesser hierarchy, chooses to shun transcendent moral imperatives in favor of “fiscal conservatism,” then you have the briny gutter wash of libertarianism rolling across the land. If it is not immediately confronted and routed, then it will inevitably poison the well.

Time-tested principles of objective reality are not open to subjective criticism. The irony of the “patriot” group that follows this course is that to abandon moral principles for political necessity will only work to embolden those individuals whose bad actions would precipitate further fiscal disruptions!

So, for reason of an uncertain numerical advantage, which some politicos assert will restore our “republican virtue” of “free market” capitalism, we conservatives are asked to remain complacent to the further subversion of America’s cultural mores—limits that constitute the requisite for ordered liberty—and thus prosperity. How then shall our markets be “free,” if they are premised to operate without a public bulwark of moral restraint? By such rationale slavery and human trafficking must have free reign, for they might serve some sector of the “market.”

In the final measure the moral severance advanced by libertarians, while calculated to gain tactical advantage over those who desire our enslavement, will prove to impose further bondage on American society; because such severance fails to recognize and uphold the immutable laws prescribed by the Divine author of all human society. In effect, libertarianism would kill the moral spirit that the body may live in greater prosperity; but without the animating moral spirit, the body dies ... and no amount of “free market” capitalism will resurrect it from the grave.

The failure of any allegedly conservative and patriotic organization to uphold objective moral principle, pretending some higher goal commands greater loyalty, is intellectually dishonest at best. A fatal flaw in discernment exists at some level of the leadership—and this error, unchallenged and unchecked, will affect a pernicious influence upon the conservative movement in general. Repeated efforts must therefore be undertaken by we who recognize the flaw of moral severance, so to teach and guide those deceived by vain men; for we understand that true liberty requires a moral foundation to be prosperous.


1,020 posted on 05/28/2011 12:20:05 AM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !When a majority of the American)
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To: TaxPayer2000

Long Live Free Republic!


1,021 posted on 05/28/2011 12:20:31 AM PDT by no dems (If the GOP nominee has no fire in the belly in 2012, we're going down.)
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To: grey_whiskers

D@mn shame about the car, though...


1,022 posted on 05/28/2011 2:01:56 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Yes! Thanks, Jim!


1,023 posted on 05/28/2011 2:03:11 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: omaha12a; admin

Hi. I’m Mike from Omaha, Nebraska. I’m new to Free Republic. I came here because I’m a Republican and usually vote Republican.

Mike
__________________________________________________________

FIVE more FReepMails to me with this same message in a bottle for help

Poor kid

I cant help you you need a doctor

and yet no posts on the open threads

Action like a true liberal troll

Just like your hero Williard Mitt Romney

too cowardly to pick up a gun and go to war for himself

he hid behind other men

Dont send me any more FReepMails

If you have something to say to me say it to my face in the open thread

after all I’m 5 foot 2 and a senior citizen

I shouldnt be too much of a challenge to a big stapling guy like you

Granted I’ll smack you around a bit troll baby

but I may let you have a girlie penalty of a few feeble taps first

Tennessee Nana


1,024 posted on 05/28/2011 2:09:53 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: MindBender26; Jim Robinson; sport; mamelukesabre
If the Republican Party nominates another RINO,and I persenally believe that they will. Myself and a lot of people I know will: 1. Stay home. 2. Vote third party. 3. Write in Sara Palin or Allen West. If that results in a second term for obama, so be it.
93 posted on 05/26/2011 9:05:54 PM PDT by sport

Not tough at all. If Romney (or any other abortionist/homosexualist/statist RINO) is the Republican candidate, the Republican party has left me. FR will work to get a pro-life, pro-family, pro-liberty conservative Tea Party candidate elected.
97 posted on 05/26/2011 9:08:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)

What you are asking is what will the tea party movement do if the republicans don’t listen to them. I guess we’ll cross that bridge when we come to it...AND THEN BURN IT THE * DOWN! the rebublican party must be made to understand that we will destroy their party if they do not shape up. I’m talking voting third party. That’s my opinion.
101 posted on 05/26/2011 9:08:44 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))

Exactly.

We vote 3rd Party for president, even if it gets us 4 more years of Obozo, but we vote for conservative, limited government candidates for the House and Senate.

When the RINO elite wake up the next morning they would have a Dimwit in the WH and a truly conservative Congress that is not beholding to the RINO elite.

We have been taking it up the @ss for too long from the RINO establishment elite in the party and in the talking head circles who have been telling us to vote against our principles for the "moderate" candidate that can win.

Well the mid-terms should have served as a wake up call to the RINO establishment that we aren't going to follow that paradigm anymore. And we need to remember what they did to Joe Miller and the Wiccan in NJ...siding with party over the voters. The elite need to go and so do the RINO's already in Congress.

Just my $02.

1,025 posted on 05/28/2011 2:18:32 AM PDT by Abundy
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To: whattajoke

My gay brother died of AIDS. He and our whole family suffered mightily for the dangerous life threatening anti-society homosexual agenda.


1,026 posted on 05/28/2011 3:47:39 AM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you so much Jim Robinson!!!
If Romney gets the nod, he will continue most if not all of Obama atrocities including Obama Care. That goes for any RINO that the GOP establishment tries to push again!!! A Rino, even if they beat Obama, will destroy what is left of the Conservative voters. By keeping liberal policies in place the left will get to point their fingers of blame at 4 years with a Republican at the helm, the one that took over after Obama. Only a Conservative this time please!!


1,027 posted on 05/28/2011 4:35:58 AM PDT by UrbanPanhandler (To find something "Wrong" in anything, just find where government has regulated it.)
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To: eyedigress
FR will attack just about anything. Grow a thick skin and just state your opinion.

Yeah!

We're like a healthy immune system that has built up over the years.

Not much can get past us any more.

We've got some real, hungry leukocytes here - waiting to pounce.

1,028 posted on 05/28/2011 4:38:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: eyedigress
Old storm chaser from the west

Ha!

I've got 'em trained so they chase ME!

1,029 posted on 05/28/2011 4:39:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: phockthis

sfl?

Sexual Freedom League?

The things one learns...


1,030 posted on 05/28/2011 4:43:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Servant of the Cross; Godzilla

I like Godzilla.

A Godzilla facepalm is the worst one to get, IMO.


1,031 posted on 05/28/2011 5:12:26 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: uscabjd; vox_freedom

The fail is strong in uscabjd.

1,032 posted on 05/28/2011 5:16:31 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Tennessee Nana

I got a FReepmail from him as well.

IATZ.


1,033 posted on 05/28/2011 5:31:30 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Elsie

My key point was that if you separate the idea of “partnerships” from the idea of “sex,” then the idea of allowing “civil unions” isn’t necessarily non-conservative. I am not an advocate of special rights for gays, just a fan of freedom.

Interestingly, some of the comments I’ve gotten indicate that this kind of thing is already possible under current law, though perhaps somewhat difficult to orchestrate.


1,034 posted on 05/28/2011 5:33:18 AM PDT by sand lake bar (Adventure Time with Finn and Jake!)
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To: TCH

I’m noticed that as well.

Cockroaches hate light.


1,035 posted on 05/28/2011 5:33:18 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m with you and proud of it!


1,036 posted on 05/28/2011 5:35:13 AM PDT by IbJensen (Welfare: putting a cake under the sink expecting that it wont attract cockroaches.)
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To: Tennessee Nana; Jim Robinson

JR, just in case you didn’t see this video, ping to post 1,016.

What a liar and hypocrite Romney is.

And on television.

The only one he’s convincing is himself and his loyal romneybot supporters. The rest of us can see that he’s just splitting hairs.

Semantics is right.


1,037 posted on 05/28/2011 5:39:11 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: TCH; Jim Robinson; little jeremiah; wagglebee; BykrBayb; DJ MacWoW; onyx

Ping to excellent post 1,020.


1,038 posted on 05/28/2011 5:43:17 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I don’t like Romney and would not vote for him in a primary and I don’t think he’s going to get the nomination. But if he does end up being the Rep candidate and a bunch of Reps sit home on election day then Obama will get four more years.

I’m all for the better if not perfect outcome. At least with a guy in your own party you can exert pressure to get him in line especially if both houses of Congress are in Rep hands.

Conversely, if Obama gets four more years then he will simply veto everything a Rep Congress passes allowing Obamacare and everything else to remain in place. The longer it remains in place then the harder it will be to get rid of to the point that it will become permanent. Not a victory for us.


1,039 posted on 05/28/2011 6:43:06 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: Locomotive Breath

What’s the difference between them?


1,040 posted on 05/28/2011 6:44:55 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: vox_freedom

Who ran a crappy campaign. Whatever deficiencies McCain had, he’s not a crypto-Marxist like Obama. I sure would have liked S.P. as Veep compared to the idiot Biden.

Besides, in 2008 the media was so in the tank for the clean and articulate black man, I doubt even the best candidate could have won.

Enjoy your four more years of Obama.


1,041 posted on 05/28/2011 6:46:57 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: trisham

I seriously doubt McCain would have proposed Israel return to its 1967 borders. I seriously doubt that McCain would have slapped the Brits in the face.

Just to start.

What’s the difference between them? Obama chose Biden as a running mate. McCain chose Palin.


1,042 posted on 05/28/2011 6:49:22 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: Locomotive Breath

Sorry. I was referring to Romney and Obama, but my question is irrelevant.


1,043 posted on 05/28/2011 6:52:31 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Word!


1,044 posted on 05/28/2011 6:57:03 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: Locomotive Breath; trisham
McCain backed the immigration bill to make illegals legal. He's a Rino and no better than Obama.

Fight the party elites or lose America.

1,045 posted on 05/28/2011 7:09:47 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Agreed. These phonies are killing us.


1,046 posted on 05/28/2011 7:21:53 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: metmom; Tennessee Nana

>I got a FReepmail from him as well.

Me too.


1,047 posted on 05/28/2011 7:22:44 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Jim Robinson

Seems strange that people would have to be told this, but OK.


1,048 posted on 05/28/2011 7:25:49 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: trisham

It’s like a choice between slow poison or a fast one.


1,049 posted on 05/28/2011 7:28:20 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Yes. Mr. Trisham and I have a “discussion” about this every so often. Neither one of us is willing to give in. :)


1,050 posted on 05/28/2011 7:40:49 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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