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NOTICE: FR DOES NOT AND WILL NOT SUPPORT ABORTIONIST, GAY RIGHTS PUSHING BIG GOVERNMENT STATISTS
vanity | May 26, 2011 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/26/2011 8:31:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

NOTICE: FR DOES NOT AND WILL NOT SUPPORT ABORTIONIST, GAY RIGHTS PUSHING BIG GOVERNMENT STATISTS FOR PRESIDENT!!

This message is intended for those posters on FR who seem to have missed my prior statements in this regard and insist on advocating for these bastards.

I'd rather shut the place down than be involved in any effort to install abortionist/gay rights pushing RINOS like Romney or Giuliani into the White House!!

Do NOT push this crap on FR. Take your business elsewhere!! And I don't care how long you've been here!!


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To: madmaximus

If they were able to think clearly, they would realize that whether JR supports Palin or not, that her candidacy is not any where near zot material.

Giuliani and Romney are zot worthy because they are way beyond being a bad candidate, or not being our best choice, or not being our preferred choice, and all of the other descriptions of people that we cannot stand or may personally not vote for.

Romney and Giuliani are candidates that should not even be in a Republican primary, because they are too far outside the limits of the party standards and platform, no matter how flexible those standards get at times (always).


1,151 posted on 05/28/2011 6:24:27 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: Jim Robinson
Romney's views on abortion and gay "rights": For safe, legal abortion; favored gays serving openly in military; sexual orientation should not preclude being a Scout.

Giuliani's views on abortion and gay "rights": Pro-choice; no ban on partial-birth abortions; opposed Pres. Bush’s ban on gay marriage; pro gay rights.

I would be disappointed if any Freeper tried to pressure a private person to support unwelcome speech in favor of either candidate. JimRob is endowed by our creator with the same unalienable individual rights as the rest of us, including liberty.

1,152 posted on 05/28/2011 6:27:31 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: gitmo

LOL, that letter doesn’t leave much wiggle room does it?

Romney has so much damning, inescapable, concrete, even video taped, absolute proof, of deeply committed liberalism, that it boggles the mind.

The man does not even belong in a Republican primary.


1,153 posted on 05/28/2011 6:29:12 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: ansel12

That was it. Thanks.

But gosh, I’m eating dinner... what a steaming pile of nastiness he is.


1,154 posted on 05/28/2011 6:40:47 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: ansel12; madmaximus
Aw geeze! Common sense would say that would never happen as Jim never supported Rudy but has and does support Sarah. Some people can't tell the difference between a liberal and a conservative.

Guiliani was a very good mayor for NYC. He stinks at anything else.

1,155 posted on 05/28/2011 6:42:22 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

A lot seem to seem confuse libertarianism with actual conservatism. Note my new tagline.


1,156 posted on 05/28/2011 6:58:16 PM PDT by madmaximus (Liberaltarians=junkies,anti-semites,anti-military,cultural marxists without all the taxes)
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To: ansel12

Open primaries need to be done away ASAP. Open primaries should be treated as inciting voter fraud,the same way as not checking IDs.


1,157 posted on 05/28/2011 7:00:04 PM PDT by madmaximus (Liberaltarians=junkies,anti-semites,anti-military,cultural marxists without all the taxes)
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To: madmaximus

That’s about the size of it!


1,158 posted on 05/28/2011 7:02:47 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: madmaximus; ansel12

Obama’s election was a setup. He had never won an election. He won the senate seat by having his opponent disqualified and the 2nd time by having the Repubs sealed divorce record opened. He won the Prez nomination by some funny business in the primary with Hillary’s votes. McCain was picked because he’d lose. It was a setup.


1,159 posted on 05/28/2011 7:09:49 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Precisely right, that’s what she told Univision. You’re not one of those guillible people who thinks that a path to citizenship for illegals is not an amnesty, are you?

In a nation with 2 hour long rush hours and 10-15 percent unemployment, incarceration and deportation is the answer and Sarah Palin does not support this,


1,160 posted on 05/28/2011 7:12:56 PM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: wagglebee; All

“You libertarians are so predictable, sooner or later you ALWAYS compare conservatives to Islamofascists.”

Libertarians...the extreme type. Are actually just “libertines.” They hold “amoral” views.


1,161 posted on 05/28/2011 7:17:48 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Yet_Again

Did you bother reading all of it?


1,162 posted on 05/28/2011 7:18:01 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Exactly.It’s the Chicago thug way,right out of the Saul Alinsky playbook.


1,163 posted on 05/28/2011 7:22:14 PM PDT by madmaximus (Liberaltarians=junkies,anti-semites,anti-military,cultural marxists without all the taxes)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thankyou Jim Robinson! I wish there were more places to be where a person didn’t have to listen to perverts and killers spew their sickening agendas.


1,164 posted on 05/28/2011 7:37:25 PM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: Yet_Again

Apparently you need an education. Look at the dates on her comments.


1,165 posted on 05/28/2011 7:51:43 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Jim 726
I remember when so-called republicans wanted Schwarzenegger to run for president. Enough of this Rino nonsense.

That was a strange time. If you said "Tomikaze" you were considered a witty, America-loving contributor. If you said "RINOld Schwarzenazi" you were a rude, America-hating troll!

1,166 posted on 05/28/2011 7:56:22 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: madmaximus

You seasoned Freepers need to give us “newbees” some hints on how to distinguish these troll/bots....some are apparent but some can REALLY cover themselves pretty well. I still get fooled sometimes...unfortunately :(


1,167 posted on 05/28/2011 8:09:15 PM PDT by caww
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To: DJ MacWoW

I read the whole thing. I am aware of the dates of her comments. If she should choose to run, when she comes out with an unequivocal immigration policy which supports incarceration and deportation and neither includes amnesty nor a path to citizenship I will consider supporting her.

Until then, there are other conservatives to support.


1,168 posted on 05/28/2011 8:17:54 PM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: DJ MacWoW

I read the whole thing. I am aware of the dates of her comments. If she should choose to run, when she comes out with an unequivocal immigration policy which supports incarceration and deportation and neither includes amnesty nor a path to citizenship I will consider supporting her.

Until then, there are other conservatives to support.


1,169 posted on 05/28/2011 8:17:56 PM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: DJ MacWoW

I read the whole thing. I am aware of the dates of her comments. If she should choose to run, when she comes out with an unequivocal immigration policy which supports incarceration and deportation and neither includes amnesty nor a path to citizenship I will consider supporting her.

Until then, there are other conservatives to support.


1,170 posted on 05/28/2011 8:17:56 PM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: az.b1bbomberfxr
...."this website. It is an oasis of sanity in a world steeped in the lunacy of liberal leftism. Long live Free Republic!!"

Exactly! Perfectly stated! Thanks....

1,171 posted on 05/28/2011 8:27:09 PM PDT by caww
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To: Yet_Again
If you read it noob you certainly didn't understand it.

As VP pick she had to parrot EVERYTHING McCain said. That's the VP's job. When she strayed there were stories about Palin "going rogue".

While Governor, they passed a DMV reform that made anyone getting a license prove legal residency. That was BEFORE she was picked as VP.

Laura Ingraham radio show, reported on lafrontera.mojo4m.com Mar 10, 2008 : So, back to the Veepstakes. Sarah Palin: I like her. She’s a beautiful woman, but she’s also a conservative. Her husband, he’s a fisherman. I’m not kidding you, and they go out and fish on the weekends. He’s a commercial fisherman. I’m telling you, I think that sells. That sells a lot more than “my friends” and comprehensive immigration reform. And she’s not for comprehensive reform, I can tell you that right now. She’s sick to death of this immigration nonsense in the United States.

The above was BEFORE she was picked by McCain.

Your post 1160: In a nation with 2 hour long rush hours and 10-15 percent unemployment, incarceration and deportation is the answer

Do you think incarceration and deportation is without cost?! We learned when Arizona passed it's law that that is all we have to do to get them to flee. Simply start enforcing the law and build a da** fence.

1,172 posted on 05/28/2011 8:33:12 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: metmom
I don't believe that staying home is the answer. Voting third party (Tea Party) is going to have to be it.

I agree...men died so that we could vote, so I will do just that. Oddly I've been very much opposed to a third party vote for a long while...sent chills up my back to even consider. But of recent I've changed that opinion and will vote third party if there isn't a conservative at the top of the GOP list.

So far Sarah has my vote....but dang! I need her to say she is running.....Bachman would be my second choice...unless these guys start "fighting like a girl"!

1,173 posted on 05/28/2011 8:37:50 PM PDT by caww
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To: re_nortex
Speaking for myself, among the reasons that FR is my number one source for news is that this is the one site on the web that has zero tolerance for such sexual deviancy. I come here for the unapologetic pro-God, pro-gun, pro-liberty and pro-military stance.......I don't even want to see anything that remotely is open to homosexuality in any way, shape or form.

I think that expresses most here...I know you can speak for me .....just seemed good idea to post your post again.

1,174 posted on 05/28/2011 8:52:07 PM PDT by caww
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To: Carling

“What does being a conservative mean to you, Jim?

I’ve often wondered it. I think this is a great time for you to share with your members what kind of conservative should be a member at FR.”

You are like a gainsaying teen, Carlin.

You do not want answers you simply wish to argue.

Jim has every right to set the rules of the forum. He has told us what the forum will tolerate and what it will not.

Live with it or leave. But Grow up.


1,175 posted on 05/28/2011 9:15:23 PM PDT by TFMcGuire (Life is tough. It is even tougher if you are stupid--John Wayne)
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To: GraceG
The gay gene as the homosexual propagandists sell it doesn’t exist but there are genetic disorders that affect how a person’s body deals with hormones, either making their bodies extra sensitive or insensitive to it and they are well documented, but furthering the “gay agenda” tends to put these considerations off the table because they don’t explain away the other 90% who are mental perverts.

Grace, I understand what you are saying...my cousin had homonal imbalances. But even with that knowledge he refused treatment and chose to be homosexual. My point is even those who might have medical reasons, which that small percentage may have, they do KNOW this is not normal, so would do what is necessary to correct this. The problem is they don't for the most part. Therefore it STILL REMAINS A MATTER OF CHOICE...they choose NOT to fix the problem.

1,176 posted on 05/28/2011 9:15:50 PM PDT by caww
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To: TCH

Placemark to read tomorrow!


1,177 posted on 05/28/2011 9:31:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Elsie

Nothing but a sicko creature would do that to his body.....his brain is truly mush....he departed the human race along time ago!


1,178 posted on 05/28/2011 9:33:08 PM PDT by caww
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To: TaxPayer2000

“This is why I love FreeRepublic!”

Me too!


1,179 posted on 05/28/2011 9:43:53 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Abundy; Jim Robinson; sport; mamelukesabre
I respectfully disagree. At the local levels (HOR) there will be more control of the primary process...my suggestion does not contemplate 3rd party HOR candidates. Nor does it really contemplate an actual 3rd party candidate for president.

Rather, it contemplates working very hard to get the right conservative candidates on the ballot at all levels. (That may mean putting a thrid party candidate up against RINO's that are vulnerable, but not an entire slate of 3rd party candidates.)

Only if we get stuck with RINO as the R candidate for president do we abandon that candidate and write in whomever are personal principles dictate.

We go to the polls in record numbers to elect conservatives to the HOR, solidifying the majority in the House and creating a majority in the Senate.

At that point there is little damage the WH can do.

And the message to the elite is clear: The PEOPLE have taken the party back from the elite.

1,180 posted on 05/28/2011 9:45:14 PM PDT by Abundy
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To: Abundy

Agree, disagree, I don’t care. I won’t be supporting any abortionist/homosexualist/statist for president. And this website will actively campaign against any such nominee. The chips will fall where they may.


1,181 posted on 05/28/2011 10:10:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
At some point a line in the sand has to be drawn between the GOP establishment career politicians who love and want to stay in DC more than anything else, and the people in the states who are having their rights trampled on and their pockets picked while federal workers in DC and Maryland and Virginia live high on the hog on our dime.

That time is now

This is not going to be like the rat primary in 2008 where Hillary Clinton and Obama were trying to prove which one was more socialist.

This is a war between the Washingtonians and the heartland, and the Washingtonians are going to get their clocks cleaned if Palin and Cain and whoever else wants to speak the truth and talk common sense speak out, and that means attacking the GOP establishment and the muzzie in chief.

And that means making it clear that anybody who supports baby killing or socialized medicine is a non-starter from day one, not letting the media prop up people like Giuliani and Romney as viable candidates, getting in their face and making clear that they might as well not waste the money, because they have no shot.

1,182 posted on 05/28/2011 10:25:53 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Rome2000

Amen


1,183 posted on 05/28/2011 10:28:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
I won’t be supporting any abortionist/homosexualist/statist for president. And this website will actively campaign against any such nominee.

I'm with you!

1,184 posted on 05/28/2011 10:29:56 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: Colofornian
When the wife of a 40-yo marriage no longer sits in the middle portion of the seat of a pick-up truck, who moved?

Excellant anology!

1,185 posted on 05/28/2011 10:42:14 PM PDT by caww
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To: Lazlo in PA
Who are you to decide what FR tolerates?..

LOL! You can't make this stuff up. Wonder if the idiot even understands why he's banned. Maybe he thinks there's something wrong w/his computer and will buy a new one to post.
1,186 posted on 05/28/2011 10:45:19 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Carling
I’m not going to advocate Romney at all, but he has said he will sign a repeal for ObamaCare if Congress gives him the chance.

He's lied before and he'll do it again many times over. Anything that spews from his mouth is not to be trusted. You can be assured that if he wins and ObamaCare comes up he'll then explain all the reasons why he NOW supports it. He's not called "flipper" for no reason as we all know.

1,187 posted on 05/28/2011 10:47:53 PM PDT by caww
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To: Locomotive Breath
Well... at the rate things are going in our country the plan just might be ‘both parties’ expect everything to crash no matter who is elected.. and it's more about positioning whose going to be stuck riding the horse off the cliff!

So say a Republican takes it...the economy completely crashes....four to eight years of attempts to lift the nation back up...THEN the Democrats come in, after the Republicans have done all the heavy lifting, claim the victory of recovering the nation for doing nothing at all.

They've pulled this crap before. They may very well let Obama take the fall with the nation...and why they pushed him to front of the line in the first place.

Just some thoughts...but anymore politicians are in it for themselves and could care less what happens to the nation and it's people while they dance their dance for power and position.

1,188 posted on 05/28/2011 11:00:10 PM PDT by caww
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To: Jim Robinson
Alleluia!
1,189 posted on 05/28/2011 11:26:35 PM PDT by Barnacle (Is treason a high crime or misdemeanor?)
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To: MindBender26

I’m done playing republicans and democrats. From now on I play conservatives and scumbags. hint: scumbags lose or I don’t play anymore.

thats all i got to say. i’m not bending anymore.


1,190 posted on 05/29/2011 12:50:54 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: DJ MacWoW

The cost of incarceration and deportation is dwarfed by the social costs of letting illegals stay, be it counted in crime, welfare, or jobs taken and CITIZENS in the unemployment line.

My line in the sand is that whatever you say about gay marriage, whatever you say about abortion, whatever you say about taxes - if you are unwilling to defend America’s borders and citizens from an onslaught of illegal migrants you are NOT A PATRIOT.

Palin has had two and a half years to come out from under McCain’s shadow. On the issue of illegal aliens, she has failed to do so.


1,191 posted on 05/29/2011 1:32:10 AM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: Yet_Again
I see noob that you're a Palin hater. They don't last long here.

Sarah Palin on Illegal Immigration - Dec 2009

Palin: We need to close the borders. They are called illegal aliens for a reason and if they are not going to follow the rules they should not be in our country. It’s pretty simple. I ratcheted that one down to the simple answer because it’s an easier answer than some politicians want it to make it be: you close the borders. You get more agressive about cracking down on the illegal aliens and we take it seriously what our border patrol officers are trying to do.

Sarah Palin says Obama lacks guts on illegal immigration - August 2, 2010

Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin said Sunday that Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer (R) has "the cojones" that President Obama "does not have" to take on illegal immigration.

1,192 posted on 05/29/2011 4:37:45 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Once again, you sidestep the issue. Show me where Palin has backed off her support for a path to citizenship for illegals already in America, and I’ll agree that she’s a candidate who is worthy of the office. Closing the borders helps, but not enough if you’re committed to granting amnesty to illegals already here and start printing H1Bs like...well, US Dollars.


1,193 posted on 05/29/2011 4:40:27 AM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: Yet_Again

I gave you two links. Is your hatred for Palin clouding your vision?


1,194 posted on 05/29/2011 4:44:18 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Yes, you did. In neither link does she repudiate a path to citizenship and embrace deportation.

I have no hatred for Palin to cloud my vision, but apparently your love for this potential candidate is clouding yours.


1,195 posted on 05/29/2011 4:46:42 AM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: Yet_Again
Oh you hate Palin. You are denigrating her for not using the specific language that you want. In those two quotes she is very clear. You just refuse to accept it.

Palin: We need to close the borders. They are called illegal aliens for a reason

You get more agressive about cracking down on the illegal aliens and we take it seriously what our border patrol officers are trying to do.

And AGAIN, massive incarceration and deportation is EXPENSIVE and not a step that we need to take as was demonstrated when Arizona passed it's law. They fled. Your dislike of Palin is clouding your vision.

1,196 posted on 05/29/2011 4:58:29 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I am denigrating her for not endorsing specific policies that I support. If you’re fine with a path to citizenship, that’s an opinion you can hold. Others here hold it. I do not.


1,197 posted on 05/29/2011 5:03:17 AM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: Yet_Again
Show me where she pushes amnesty once she stopped representing McCain.

You are parsing what she has said. I note your pushing Herman Cain and he claims he'll deport. Again, the problem in MONEY as he'd find out if he'd ever held office. Massive incarceration and deportation would be expensive. We only need to build the fence, give Border Patrol free reign and enforce the law.

AGAIN, illegals fled when Arizona passed their law. Mass deportation isn't necessary if they find the laws enforced.

Illegal Immigrants Flee Arizona Enforcement, Sanctuary Cities Attract Them

With no sanctuary cities they'd be out of luck and keep running back to Mexico.

Are you a retread?

1,198 posted on 05/29/2011 5:17:22 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Of course I’m parsing what she said. That’s how you tell the difference between what a politician says and what a politician means.

I am not opposed to a fence, to e-verify, and to allowing border patrol to do their jobs. If, as you claim, the majority of illegals will flee voluntarily than the cost of incarceration and deportation would be a fraction of what you are concerned about.

As far as where she has pushed amnesty one she stopped representing McCain, that was her position and she has not refuted it. It is not my responsibility as a voter to try and dig up a re-affirmation of her original pro-amnesty stance. It is her responsibility as a candidate to loudly and clearly refute such a stance.

Am I a retread? I am a conservative with loyalty to my country, and not to any political party. If the Republicans nominate a suitable candidate like Herman Cain (who supports deportation of illegals, not a path to citizenship for them), they will have earned my vote. If they nominate Sarah Palin - and she refutes her McCainish approach to amnesty - they will have earned my vote.

If they nominate someone who is going to print greencards for the 20-30 million people who snuck into the country, they will not.


1,199 posted on 05/29/2011 5:24:27 AM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: Yet_Again

2000


1,200 posted on 05/29/2011 5:28:07 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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