Skip to comments.Government would step in where grocers are few (what can possibly go wrong there?)
Posted on 05/28/2011 6:31:57 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
Durham, N.C. Healthier food might soon be coming to a corner store near you, thanks to an initiative by local, state and federal governments to bring better eating options to areas without grocery stores.
Those who live along Angier Avenue in east Durham can buy food, but most of it is not very healthy. A mini mart sells candy and snacks, and a diner features a one-pound hot dog. The federal government calls places like this "food deserts."
"All the grocery stores have left, and all that people have access to is what's in a convenience store," said Sheree Vodicka, a spokeswoman for the North Carolina Division of Public Health.
Grocery stores typically carry more fresh fruits and vegetables and healthier food than convenience stores. "If you can't get to them, you can't choose those foods," Vodicka said. But things are on changing on Angier Avenue. Triangle Residential Options for Substance Abusers opened a grocery store there a year ago. It's become part of a new state effort to work with stores to bring fruits and vegetables to those food deserts.
The TROSA store manager said that business is brisk and people are buying healthier foods. "The community realizes that they have access, that they have resources," said David Reese, co-chair of Partnership for a Healthy Durham. People also get lessons on how to cook fresh vegetables from the county health department. "A lot of people may have been raised not eating it in the healthiest way, so we're trying to teach people to cook things quick and easy," nutritionist Kelly Warnock said.
But the program is about more than improving human health. Organizers hope it will bring back some big grocery stores to improve the community's economic health.
(Excerpt) Read more at wral.com ...
ECON 101: No one can create a market where one does not exist naturally—Not even the government.
A lot of retailers moved out of Detroit because they couldn’t make enough money to make up for losses to theft.
There is a market, but the shrink rate is too high. (theft)
“”All the grocery stores have left”
Gee, wonder why all the grocery stores have left... maybe if the residents would stop fouling their own nests, then businesses would return. After all, supply always follows demand, if supply isn’t afraid of being robbed and/or murdered...
So now we get a glimpse of where Moochelle’s “Eat Healthy” initiative is headed - just like school lunches became “school breakfasts” all “for the children” - we’re going to have the gubbermint stepping in to provide a teat to suckle on for the “food desert” inhabitants.
Exactly right. Poverty does not create crime. Crime creates poverty.
Hmmm.....if they managed both ends of the equation......???
Food stamps can only be used at government run food stores.......
I learned as much as I need to know about Durham NC in 06-08 with that Duke LAX case. The people of Durham don't DESERVE to be eating healthy food, they deserve to be eating rat poison.
Good grief how did people ever get by without government-run health food stores.
Take old failed communist ideas and dress them up with new lingo like “food deserts” and “eat healthy” - welcome to the USSA comrade!
One of the true mysteries of life that is.
“All the grocery stores have left...”
Instead of opening a government store, they should ask why the stores left and then create conditions to allow the stores to return. Without knowing the area, I can speculate on a few reasons.
1. High Crime
2. Obama Economy
3. Liberal Taxes
4. Anti-Business environment
5. Heavily Democratic area
If they want real change, they should refuse another government handout (grocery store) and vote conservatives into office. Let churches and private charities fill the gaps during the transition period.
Read the article and don’t see where “government” is running grocery stores
There are at least 80 grocery stores including supermarkets, whole food stores, and produce outlets.
Triangle Residential Options for Substance Abusers opened a grocery store there a year ago .....
Where do you think that “TROSA”s money comes from?
Once proud and free Americans can now solely claim only a superior tolerance for obediently taking crap...
I checked it out and looked at my area.
At least in my area there may be area's that don't have "chain grocery stores" but they are independent grocery stores in the area.
Not C-Store but real grocery stores with fresh fruit, fresh meats and real groceries
I'm sure there are area's that this is a serious problem, but with everything government it's overstated to generate money
Don’t get too wound up about this. Variations on this scheme have been around since the Great Depression, in a multitude of forms.
The first major program was to require Home Economics for all girls in high school. At its height, it was spectacularly successful, saving future families thousands or tens of thousands of dollars while significantly improving their quality of life.
But when Home Ec was mostly discontinued, the decline in home management knowledge and children’s nutrition was rapid. Soon there was a need for elementary schools to start providing free breakfasts as well as lunch, so they would at least get some vitamins.
Will this latest effort help? Marginally, at best. People raised to eat only rice and beans, or pizza and beer, or grits and grease, or whatever, are difficult to convince that eating something else might be good, too.
Geeze O petes, did you take a look at the food desert locator?
Huge tracts of unpopulated country are classified as food deserts. Just maybe those areas don’t have grocery stores because nobody lives there.
In my county they show the city of Jackson Michigan as a food desert despite 2 Meijer stores, a Walmart, Sam’s club, Aldi’s, Gordon Food service, multiple Kroger stores, 2 Save A Lot stores, and probably a half dozen more I can’t remember.
in those areas they tend to eat greasy foods.
But they think with foods stamps why would a grocery store not make it?
The reason is many on food stamps sell them for cash.
People that live there won’t buy healthy food anyway.
And education about healthy food won’t change anything for those people.
The first wookie said this a few months ago and now it is a "federal government" pronouncment?
Anyone who states this food desert BS thinks anyone who believes it is stupid.
Anyone who believes this food desert BS deserves to starve.
According to their 2009 annual report 8 % comes from grants The 89% of revenue comes from donations and earned income.
If the govt-run food store opens in food stamp country, they can stock their shelves with all the healthy food they want, but no one’s going to take it.
Then, the complaints of racism will go up because the “gummint sto” doesn’t have the convenience foods that “white peoples sto” has. Then, Uncle Sugar will fill its store with convenience food and they’ll be right back where they are now, except that the taxpayer will have to support another failed “program”.
Our government counted ketsup as a vegtable in the “free” school lunch program at one time.
I imagine islands of communism in the cities will thrive as long as the government can take food from people outside the cities. In a “state of emergency” Obammy can do what ever he wants to do to whomever he wants.
As we enter into a time of “global” food shortages, Obama has created the base of power and infrastructure to can take care of “his people.”
Reminds me of the good ole days of Stalin. But that is crazy! In a time of shortages, Obammy would never take control over food and then starve the people outside the cities like Stalin did!
Systemic Federal insanity is proven. All that remains is the decision as to when We the People start to dismantle the beast.
Yup, and the liquor stores are doing just fine, thank you very much.
No they can't.
They went to government schools.
I can hear it now, Jamal and Latisha chanting
NO BRUSSEL SPROUTS NO PEACE!
Food seems to be the weapon of choice of all dictators throughout history. Create shortages and then accrue power by doling out the relief.
” Hmmm.....if they managed both ends of the equation......???
Food stamps can only be used at government run food stores....... “
Then, take it to the next logical step, and close the system - the Gummint Store will *only* accept food stamps....
Control access to food, and control the population.....
I’ll give you a couple of minutes to figure out why this area has no grocery store. OK times up.
They should address the root problem — why did the grocery stores leave the ‘hood? Everything else is like a band-aid on a flesh-eating bug infestation.
If one considers only the historical record as a guide, then the result of the state’s initiative will be starvation.
However, if one relies instead on the visionary proclamations of progressive statesmen, then things will only get better, and then even better again.
Just maybe those areas dont have grocery stores because nobody lives there.
Control access to food, and control the population.....
I don't see how any location that features a one-pound hot dog could be labeled a "food desert" — indeed, it appears that diner in question is Joe's Diner (aka Joe's Big Hot Dogs).
(For what it is worth, the Urbanspoon article to an interesting news site story about Joe's Diner.)
There would be healthier food available if the customers asked for it. Merchants will supply what customers are willing to pay for.
The map shows Keweenaw county in Michigan as a food desert but there are less than 3000 in the county. Not a whole hell of a lot of anything there.
but it really pisses me off when the person in front of me at the check out register has a grocery cart full of stuff I can’t afford.
And it is coming out of my pocket.
” Huge tracts of unpopulated country are classified as food deserts. Just maybe those areas dont have grocery stores because nobody lives there. “
I’m one of those ‘nobodys’ who ‘lives there’ - 30 miles from my house to the closest shopping, or gas station, or doctor....
A few of us neighbors looked into the possibility of a State or Federal grant, or even an SBA loan, to start a Convenience-type store or co-op in our little hamlet (pop 200), since we were white, male, and middle-to-upper age, even though many of us are on SS, or VA pensions, we got, at best, ignored, and, mostly, laughed at.....
Every first lady get to create one program. Usually they are stupid wastes of money that sound good on paper, or as a legacy. It's a tradition.
One issue that the article doesn’t address is the fact that urban census tracts are very populated, and hence are very small.
Case in point, look at the near south shore of Chicago. At 61st and Stony Island, there is a “food island.” Now the eastern half of the census tract is park and golf course. The western half is very close to non-desert census tracts. If you lived smack in the middle of the populated area of the census tract, you would find that the Hyde Park Co-op (or whatever it is called now)is only 6-8 blocks away at 55th and Hyde Park Blvd. The Hyde Park Co-op has the EXACT types of foods the bureaucrats are promoting. However, the prices are a bit high. If you have a car, Hyde Prk Produce is a 5min. drive away at 53rd and Kimbark (about 12 blocks, still walkable in decent weather), and I think the general purpose Mr. G’s might still be there. These urban stores will also deliver groceries. You walk or take a bus, and for a couple of dollars per bag, they’ll drive the stuff to your apartment. It costs more, but hey, no car payment ... right?
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