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Cold shoulder for climate change (Is it hogwash or fraud?)
Politico ^ | 5/24/11 | DARREN SAMUELSOHN

Posted on 05/28/2011 6:51:09 AM PDT by Libloather

Cold shoulder for climate change
By DARREN SAMUELSOHN | 5/24/11 4:28 AM EDT

Climate scientists are in a tough spot.

They have never been more certain about what they know. Powerful new satellites can hone in on mountainous regions to measure ice melt. Stronger computers model changes in disruptive weather patterns. Scientists are even more comfortable attributing climate change to visible effects around the globe, from retreating Himalayan glaciers to southwestern U.S. droughts and acidifying oceans.

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For instance, National Research Council members got a collective shrug earlier this month when they went to Capitol Hill to share their work — a congressionally mandated, 18-month review of the nuts and bolts of global warming science and ideas for what U.S. policymakers could do about it.

Only a small group of House and Senate aides showed up for private briefings on the study. And while a couple of staffers asked parochial questions about how climate change affects their districts and states, the authors also got the second degree on whether there is even a problem.

“They said, ‘There are those who believe it’s a bit of hogwash. And not only hogwash, but a fraud,’” said Albert Carnesale, chancellor emeritus at the University of California, Los Angeles and chairman of the NRC panel.

“Scientists aren’t a lobbying force,” said Andrew Revkin, author of The New York Times’s Dot Earth blog. “They’re trying to make science matter in an arena where the only way it matters is to use it to support an existing agenda.”

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To: Libloather

Consider the source:

The NRC report — which pulled together experts from engineering, science, business, nonprofits, government and politics — had as its key conclusion, “Climate change is occurring, is very likely caused by human activities and poses significant risks for a broad range of human and natural systems.”

21 posted on 05/28/2011 8:04:12 AM PDT by Let_It_Be_So
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To: aflaak

Ping


22 posted on 05/28/2011 8:08:09 AM PDT by r-q-tek86 ("It doesn't matter how smart you are if you don't stop and think" - Dr. Sowell)
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To: Puckster

Note to self:

Tent time in Kandahar

Night folks.


23 posted on 05/28/2011 8:13:52 AM PDT by Puckster
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To: Libloather
“Scientists aren’t a lobbying force,” said Andrew Revkin, author of The New York Times’s Dot Earth blog.

As soon as they started talking about a "consensus" among "scientists" (the list of "scientists" including numerous politicians and activists), they started trying to be "a lobbying force."

If "a consensus" mattered in science, we'd still be talking about the "luminiferous ether" instead of the theory of general relativity, because Einstein's brilliant insights into the interaction between mass and space would have been dismissed as poppycock.

24 posted on 05/28/2011 9:59:47 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Libloather
The "science" is hogwash.

Politicizing it is fraud.

Those involved in either are not legitimate scientists...

25 posted on 05/28/2011 11:52:46 AM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
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To: Libloather
Cold shoulder for climate change (Is it hogwash or fraud?)

The two choices are not mutually exclusive.

26 posted on 05/28/2011 12:47:18 PM PDT by hattend (Obama is better than OJ... He found a killer while on the golf course.)
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27 posted on 05/28/2011 9:52:51 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I hate politically correct sorosmonkey superheroes!)
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To: Libloather
“We need to equip ourselves with the ability and capacity to deal with the heightened scrutiny … which we have been subjected to recently,” IPCC Chairman Rajendra Pachauri said earlier this month during a conference in Abu Dhabi.
He means, they need to figure out how to lie better. They've been trying: Global Warming Debate Lost Under an Avalanche of Corruption
28 posted on 05/29/2011 1:01:38 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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