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*Warning!* Rudy Giuliani leads new national poll *Warning!*
Politico ^ | 5/27/11 | MAGGIE HABERMAN

Posted on 05/28/2011 8:08:23 AM PDT by NoGrayZone

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To: NoGrayZone; Gilbo_3; stephenjohnbanker; hiredhand; Squantos; sickoflibs; DoughtyOne

He’s a gun-grabbing, baby-killing homo supporter. Not a lot of daylight between him and the Dems - no matter what his public statements suggest.

I don’t care WHAT he did for NYC. He also gave NYC Mayor Bloomberg, as liberal a piece of sh*t if ever there was one.

I don’t want him ANYWHERE near the reins of Federal power.

If the GOP nominates him, I WILL GO THIRD PARTY.

If a politician does not understand the most basic RIGHT of a human being - to be Alive, to have a chance to be born, and to be able to DEFEND that life, I’ll have nothing - ZERO - to do with them, and will spend every waking moment to defeat them.

No more RINOS. Not now, not EVER.


151 posted on 05/28/2011 1:22:20 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: 9YearLurker
I understand where you're heading, but Rudy CANNOT be #2 on the ticket.

He is a social lib. “Big tent” we are not. We are Constitution or commie.

I choose Constitution. West or Cain along with Sarah leading the way is my only choice.

2012 will determine whether or not God has forgiven us for our slumber or not.

I am either black or white, hence my screen name. I stand for righteousness, as well as forgiveness, for being asleep.

152 posted on 05/28/2011 1:25:47 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: NoGrayZone

Actually, other possibilities, like Daniels and TPaw may be better choices. Cain and West would do nothing to help her get elected—and have zero executive experience in government—anyway.


153 posted on 05/28/2011 1:27:32 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: NoGrayZone

I just don’t see this as realistic; he’s got too much baggage. This early out, it’s probably name recognition alone. When all Julie’s baggage is revisited, he’ll be toast.


154 posted on 05/28/2011 1:29:33 PM PDT by sometime lurker
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To: NoGrayZone

I just don’t see this as realistic; he’s got too much baggage. This early out, it’s probably name recognition alone. When all Julie’s baggage is revisited, he’ll be toast.


155 posted on 05/28/2011 1:29:41 PM PDT by sometime lurker
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To: NFHale
Have you read ANY of my postings? I asked the mods to post a “warning” sign on my title, which they did immediately.

The lamestream is trying to nominate OUR nom. It CANNOT be allowed to happen again.

156 posted on 05/28/2011 1:33:03 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: NoGrayZone
The Dims, uber-Libs and RINOs want to give us our choice of potential "moderate" "GOP" candidates. Today's pablum for the mushy middle: Rudy Giuliani.

They are so afraid of true Conservatives! I love it!

157 posted on 05/28/2011 1:40:50 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: sometime lurker
Did you not read my post after the article (1st post). It is a warning to ALL Conservatives out there.....they are trying once again to choose our nominee.

WE CANNOT ALLOW THIS. SCREW OUR “POLITINESS" IT'S A DO OR DIE SITUATION. DRAW YOUR LINE IN THE SAND.” SARAH OR BUST!

158 posted on 05/28/2011 1:42:11 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: TommyDale

No kidding? Mayor during 9/11. Who knew? ROTFL.


159 posted on 05/28/2011 1:45:32 PM PDT by Liz
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To: NoGrayZone

No, Rudy doesn’t lead in any national poll.

Next.


160 posted on 05/28/2011 1:48:14 PM PDT by fightinJAG (I am sick of people adding their comments to titles in the title box. Thank you.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; TommyDale

Never trust a guy who can’t be humiliated by the voters.


161 posted on 05/28/2011 1:48:46 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz

Not an injudicious rule of thumb ;-)


162 posted on 05/28/2011 2:00:11 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: NoGrayZone

No way he’d win the primaries...Romney might...which wouldn’t be good, either. Hopefully not...


163 posted on 05/28/2011 2:15:05 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Have no fear "President Government" is here)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Sure its not ‘anybody but Romney?

They call him “nominal frontrunner” and he keeps being runner up in polls.

Meanwhile, they keep saying nothing about the real threat to the status quo.

Repeat after me: HERMAN CAIN. HERMAN CAIN. HERMAN CAIN. HERMAN CAIN. HERMAN CAIN. HERMAN CAIN.


164 posted on 05/28/2011 2:25:28 PM PDT by WOSG (Herman Cain for President)
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To: NoGrayZone

“I do nothing but worry.”

Well, snap out of it.

Worry doesnt fix squat.


165 posted on 05/28/2011 2:27:41 PM PDT by WOSG (Herman Cain for President)
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To: NoGrayZone

Chill, brother. I got your meaning.

I was stating my position on it. Nothing aimed at you.


166 posted on 05/28/2011 2:30:18 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NoGrayZone

Solution, lets have only one party and nominate 2-4 people from the one party to run for office of President. We might as well, its what its beginning to look like.


167 posted on 05/28/2011 2:31:13 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (The storm clouds of war are on the horizon, 1939 is again approaching us.)
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To: NoGrayZone

Rudy Giuliani is naught but the LSM’s latest Palin threat candidate du jour. The guy had the same LSM hype in 08, and he failed miserabley.


168 posted on 05/28/2011 2:39:07 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Being an autodidact, I happily escaped the bureaucratization of intellect)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; NoGrayZone

S’OK.

Appears we have an encore (sort of): Rim and Stumpy.


169 posted on 05/28/2011 2:57:55 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: NoGrayZone

if it comes to it .. I would vote fro Lucrezia Borgia .. but I am voting and I am voting to get Obama out.
I am not staying home, I’ll crawl on my hands and knees if i have to and I am not tossing my vote away. That woudl be like giving one to Obama.

I just can’t take another 4 years of this and neither can our country


170 posted on 05/28/2011 3:09:31 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: NoGrayZone
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171 posted on 05/28/2011 3:39:46 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Just overheard a man on Fox say these polls are meaningless and a waste of time, amen!


172 posted on 05/28/2011 3:50:40 PM PDT by ohiogrammy (12)
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To: Reagan Man; NoGrayZone
Rudy’s always been a liberal and I doubt you can prove otherwise.

There is no doubt about that, IMO. I submit this observation: many people that lived in NYC or anywhere within 50 miles of it during 9/11, developed a bit of a "soft spot" for Giuliani as he emerged as a "hero" for many during the crisis and the aftermath. Heck, that "soft spot" extended far beyond NYC as I recall hearing folks from all around the country referring to him as "America's Mayor" and other similar platitudes. I don't think anyone needs to re-hash what the immediate area around NYC was like that day and beyond, it was hellish for any number of reasons. This guy stepped up and show some strength and leadership. IMO, give him his props for that. But that is it, period.

I think that aspect tends to make New Yorkers (and many others) want to continue to "give him props" so it may explain why I often hear people suggest Attorney General or whatever when his name comes up. IMO he is a big-government, authoritarian, gun-grabbing, statist that apparently holds obscene social values. That is it in a nutshell. I wouldn't want to see him anywhere in government at a national level (nor at a state level if I resided in that state!). Personally, I don't think that he has any intention whatsoever to actually become a candidate. I think that it is just a publicity and attention-seeking stunt.

173 posted on 05/28/2011 3:57:22 PM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: NoGrayZone

No Rudy.No way.No Romney,no way.Ditto for Newt, and McPain.

I’m in for Sarah,Cain,maybe Perry or any solid legitimate conservative.Otherwise, TP/write-in or stay home.

No more holding noses.


174 posted on 05/28/2011 4:23:08 PM PDT by madmaximus (Liberaltarians=junkies,anti-semites,anti-military,cultural marxists without all the taxes)
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To: NoGrayZone

No Ron Paul,either. And Rand is turning to to be just as nutty and backstabbing,IMO.


175 posted on 05/28/2011 4:24:45 PM PDT by madmaximus (Liberaltarians=junkies,anti-semites,anti-military,cultural marxists without all the taxes)
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To: NoGrayZone

No Ron Paul,either. And Rand is turning out to be just as nutty and backstabbing,IMO.


176 posted on 05/28/2011 4:25:12 PM PDT by madmaximus (Liberaltarians=junkies,anti-semites,anti-military,cultural marxists without all the taxes)
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To: NoGrayZone
I am a New Yorker, always have been, born and raised (want out but have NO idea where to go).

Come to Texas, fellow patriot. We've got plenty of New Yorkers living here, and some are even conservative. We can always use a few more.

Sarah or bust, or it's on to phase two which has been spoken of, but can be avoided if we ALL stand our ground.

I not only agree with you on that, but it's the plain and simple truth. If we don't get Sarah into the White House next year, this country is going to a place where none of us wants to go.

177 posted on 05/28/2011 4:51:48 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
The GOP “Anybody but Sarah” crowd is in a full-blown panic.

Hee hee... Don't ya just love it?

178 posted on 05/28/2011 4:52:41 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: NoGrayZone

What kind of judges would he appoint? I might be able to live with him.


179 posted on 05/28/2011 4:55:28 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: NoGrayZone

“I’m not sure why, but Montana seems to be “pulling” me towards it.”

I hear you. Tall mountains, beautiful lakes, lush forests and animals that can eat you... what could go wrong? :)

Seriously, I’ve heard that call myself.

Keep in mind that Montana isn’t a Right-To-Work state so if you have a business you might also consider northern Idaho.

Map: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Right_to_work.svg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-to-work_law


180 posted on 05/28/2011 5:11:04 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: zzeeman
>>>>>IMO he is a big-government, authoritarian, gun-grabbing, statist that apparently holds obscene social values.

Agreed, Rudy is all that. Your post is based on well known facts and is the same stated beliefs held by red blooded conservatives everywhere.

I can appreciate the "soft spot" many New Yorkers had for Rudy immediately after 911. Although I thought his "America's Mayor" label was way over the top, I too gave Rudy kudos for his post-911 leadership. In the end, however, I think it was way overblown. Rudy was no hero. Like Truman dropping the bomb on Japan and Obama ordering the killing of Osama, historic decisions like these are exactly what most Americans expect from their President's. The weeks and months after 911 called for dignified leadership and Rudy supplied that for the most part. Enough already!

The real issue here was with two Rudyboosters who took issue with my posting rhetoric pertaining to facts about NYC crime rates beginning to first decline under Mayor Dinkins, continuing to slide under Rudy and reaching all time lows under Mayor Bloomberg. These two Rudybots claim I was wrong and offered no proof. The proof is everywhere.


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181 posted on 05/28/2011 5:34:18 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: NoGrayZone

I like Rudy, but NOT for president.

He would be a terrific Attorney General or FBI director.


182 posted on 05/28/2011 5:45:02 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: NoGrayZone

I read it. My point is that of all the possibilities to worry about, Giuliani shouldn’t be one of them, because his candidacy will implode even faster than it did last time. I worry a lot more about Romney than Giuliani or Newt.


183 posted on 05/28/2011 5:53:29 PM PDT by sometime lurker
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To: NoGrayZone
"What makes you think Palin will eventually announce her candidacy, and file for it?"

Oh, I don't know. Just everything she has been doing these past couple of years. If you had been paying attention I would NOT need to explain it to you.

I spent hours last night explaining everything about Palin and her presidential aspirations to this 'person', and having what I thought was an intelligent, civil discussion with a Palin doubter - only to have them ping one of the most virulent PDSers on FR to our conversation.

Talk about a diss. I felt like I'd been conned into letting my guard down, and when I let him know that, he brushed it off like it was nothing.

That person is either mentally challenged, or they're a plant.

184 posted on 05/28/2011 6:08:03 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: NoGrayZone

I ditto what the gentleman said in post #145...all for the Greenville, SC area! Couldn’t have said it better myself...conservative, friendly, affordable, awesome community unity, and so forth.


185 posted on 05/28/2011 6:32:14 PM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: I see my hands

Read the bill of rights.


186 posted on 05/28/2011 7:09:48 PM PDT by itsahoot (We make jokes, they make progress. Dimmitude, get used to it.)
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To: NoGrayZone

CNN poll?

cough, cough.


187 posted on 05/28/2011 7:29:16 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO and the Fleebaggers.)
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To: murron

Hannity sucks.

Rush rules...so far.


188 posted on 05/28/2011 7:32:10 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO and the Fleebaggers.)
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To: sickoflibs

Who is telling Rudy that America wants him in the first place?

Yuk! No way, Jose!


189 posted on 05/28/2011 7:38:02 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO and the Fleebaggers.)
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To: Liz

He’s better suited for the dems.


190 posted on 05/28/2011 7:39:19 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO and the Fleebaggers.)
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To: NoGrayZone

At this point in time, all of these polls are name recognition polls. Polls based on the accurate “political substance” of each candidate running don’t exist yet.


191 posted on 05/28/2011 7:54:43 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: TribalPrincess2U; Liz; org.whodat; NoGrayZone; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; ...
RE :”Who is telling Rudy that America wants him in the first place? Yuk! No way, Jose!

Exactly,

Besides the fact that he is a liberal which is well argued here on this thread, I aways am astonished that dogs like him and Newt keep coming out each election cycle. Who the hell is their support base? I aways ask.

Liberal Rudy's moment is gone, no one gives a crap about him now. His last moment was at the 2004 Republican convention starring Rudy, Arnold and McCain , the three RINOs. Those days are long gone

192 posted on 05/28/2011 8:06:42 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: NoGrayZone

The only way Rudy can get the nom is if the DEMONcrats jump across the lines and vote him in.


Well we all know that won’t happen because they all say they are praying that Sarah runs against Øbama.


193 posted on 05/28/2011 8:12:35 PM PDT by curth (Organize4Palin.com - NOW IS THE TIME)
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To: NoGrayZone
The survey shows Giuliani getting 16 percent of independents and Republicans, with nominal frontrunner Mitt Romney a point behind at 15 percent.

Sure, and I'm Ida Lapino.

194 posted on 05/28/2011 8:28:00 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: 4rcane

I don’t believe this poll for a minute, but what little validity it has is all about name recognition, not an actual desire to make him POTUS.


195 posted on 05/28/2011 8:29:42 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: sickoflibs; TribalPrincess2U; Liz; org.whodat; NoGrayZone; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; ...
Liberal Rudy's moment is gone, no one gives a crap about him now.
His last moment was at the 2004 Republican convention starring Rudy,
Arnold and McCain, the three RINOs. Those days are long gone.

" Ai gotda vunny veeling dah Reepublucan Potty tinks RINOS are pure
crapola. Chonny, Roody and ai ghonna ghet us jops ass ah Val-Mart
greetahs, Home Depot paint mixahs, McD's ketchop pumpahs, undt
vaitahs at Ved Lopstah.......ven ai loosses mai jop ass govnah."

196 posted on 05/28/2011 8:33:08 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz

You are good :)


197 posted on 05/28/2011 8:44:10 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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The folks at CNN must be on drugs...

Rudy did a good job in 2001...that is now ten years ago...he has since had brain shrinkage..where has he been for ten years???

Run Sarah Run...CNN is scared of YOU

198 posted on 05/28/2011 9:17:41 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: NoGrayZone

“Giuliani 16%

Romney 15%

Palin 13%”

The MSM is playing this up — the more accurate title would be something like “No real front runner — Giuliani, Romney, Palin are tied within the margin of error”

Having 16% of the votes is not a real “lead” as the MSM is portraying it.

As I read somewhere, the Dem strategy includes hitting hard on the “divide and conquer” strategy.


199 posted on 05/28/2011 11:33:10 PM PDT by UniqueViews
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To: NoGrayZone

I smell cheese. Mice beware.


200 posted on 05/29/2011 12:39:34 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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