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*Warning!* Rudy Giuliani leads new national poll *Warning!*
Politico ^ | 5/27/11 | MAGGIE HABERMAN

Posted on 05/28/2011 8:08:23 AM PDT by NoGrayZone

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To: murron

I can’t blame Sean for his love of Rudy. I do love him as well due to 9/11 and how he stood up to every NYC’er and said screw you, it needs to be fixed and I’m going to do it, which he did.....BUT NOT FOR POTUS.

Why Sean loves Newt I can’t explain.


51 posted on 05/28/2011 8:54:06 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: PLD

I posted this as a warning, nothing else. They are digging through their garbage to find ANYONE ELSE BUT SARAH.

For me it’s Sarah or bust. End of story.


52 posted on 05/28/2011 8:56:28 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: NoGrayZone
RE :"Maybe, maybe not. I would prefer a Palin/Cain or Palin/West ticket."

What makes you think Palin will eventually announce her candidacy, and file for it?

53 posted on 05/28/2011 8:56:28 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: FreeReign

We must go on the offense whenever they come out with this crap. That was my point for posting this.

It’s Sarah or nothing as far as I’m concerned.


54 posted on 05/28/2011 8:58:34 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: NoGrayZone

“......CNN/Opinion Research Corporation......”

The above is how BULLSHIT is spelled in Liberalese.


55 posted on 05/28/2011 9:00:03 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: PapaNew

You missed the most important item. Bring the southern border under control and remove twenty million illegal aliens.


56 posted on 05/28/2011 9:00:37 AM PDT by BealNoortz
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To: umgud

Mega dittos to that.


57 posted on 05/28/2011 9:01:49 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: NoGrayZone

I must say ...I blew the keyboard with a load of coffee out of my mouth just reading the headline!!!

the MSM is becoming absolutely translucent at this point!!!Just as Sarah sets out on her non-campaign!!


58 posted on 05/28/2011 9:02:18 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you do not, no explanation is possible")
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To: All
A candidate like Giuliani who chooses to be aligned with virulent Christian-haters cannot be seriously considered for office at any level of our government.

Among Rudy's huge liabilities is his personal life. Rudy's love life reads like a sordid tale from an X-rated paperback romance novel. Mayor Rudy, while a married man and father of two, got involved with his third and present wife, escorting her publicly, and insisted his lover move into Gracie Mansion while he was still married.

ROOTY'S PARTY LOYALTY As for party loyalty, forget it. Rudy once endorsed a radical liberal Democrat--Mario Cuomo--over Cuomo's Repub opponent--who won.

RUDI APPOINTED PEDOPHILE TO HIGH LEVEL GOVT JOB: Rudy looked the other way when his patronage appointee Russell Harding -- now in jail for government fraud----was stealing from the city's Housing Development Corp. Harding was enjoying kiddie porn and gay vacations with his gay pals on the taxpayers dime. The pedophile is Liberal Party's Ray Harding's son---and was payback for the Liberal Party endorsing Rooty for mayor.

GUN RIGHTS? WHAT GUN RIGHTS? Rudy would hunt down every gun, of every type, in every household in the USA and melt them down into scrap metal. Rudy doesn't need a gun. Like all rich liberals, he's got armed guards to protect him.

Rudy's vulnerability is his close relationship with Bernard Kerik his onetime driver which he elevated to Police Commissioner. Rooty suggested Kerik to Bush as HomeLandSec Secy (would have been a boon to Rooty's security consulting business). Kerik lied on his federal application and is now in jail. So maybe Rudy ought to tell voters how he planned to use and Kerik's personal, business and political expertise to help him win public office. ROTFL.

59 posted on 05/28/2011 9:02:18 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Iscool
"He didn’t do so well in the last primary...Now, he’s the leader???"

Exactly my point. They are digging through the garbage to name ANYONE ELSE BUT SARAH as leader.

As I've stated a million times, it's Sarah or bust.

60 posted on 05/28/2011 9:05:30 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: sickoflibs

Giuliani was the biggest loser of 2008-—he spent some $65 million and lost in every primary he entered.

He said he was “saving himself” for the Florida primary that he had rigged with NY voters there for the winter-—he campaigned day and night and came in a distant third.


61 posted on 05/28/2011 9:05:55 AM PDT by Liz
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To: NoGrayZone

Yes I figured that that was what you meant..And yes I do want Sarah to become our next president but there are two other if she decided not to run..And neither of those two will be Rudy..


62 posted on 05/28/2011 9:08:19 AM PDT by PLD
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To: Liz
RE :"Giuliani was the biggest loser of 2008-—he spent some $65 million and lost in every primary he entered. He said he was “saving himself” for the Florida primary that he had rigged with NY voters there for the winter-—he campaigned day and night and came in a distant third."

One would think he'd be even less popular now, hell, Newt has a better chance than him and that's not saying much.

63 posted on 05/28/2011 9:08:58 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: sickoflibs
"What makes you think Palin will eventually announce her candidacy, and file for it?"

Oh, I don't know. Just everything she has been doing these past couple of years. If you had been paying attention I would NOT need to explain it to you.

64 posted on 05/28/2011 9:10:12 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: BealNoortz

Where do you start? It all needs to be done (or undone) now. That was probably number six. But you launch all of this stuff as soon as possible, then focus on each one individually. And let’s get a little more of Patton going and a little less of patent leather (to quote Michael Savage): “No reports that we’re holding ground. We’re not holding on to anything except the Liberals. We’re going to hold onto him by the nose and we’re going to kick him in the ass.”


65 posted on 05/28/2011 9:12:08 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: mo

I believe they have simply lost their minds. They know Sarah will be in this race and win it by a landslide.

Sarah said if she ran, it would be an unconventional run. She is truly a woman of her word!


66 posted on 05/28/2011 9:14:10 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: NoGrayZone

If Sarah is NOT at the top of the ticket, the only thing I can do is write her in.

I’m in lock step with you.

It may be a lost vote, but I will not vote for the AINO’s the democrats try to put up by cross voting in the primaries.

This is what they did in 2008,and we got McNasty the progressive democrat RINO. The RINO that pulled his punches and would not support his running mate...Sarah. It was a repeat of the 1996 Doledrums, without R.Perot.

Who will be the next Perot...Trump?


67 posted on 05/28/2011 9:17:09 AM PDT by chainsaw (I'd hate to be a democrat running against Sarah Palin.)
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To: NoGrayZone

Giuliani leads in poll...uh-oh! JimRob will be fit to be tied. :(


68 posted on 05/28/2011 9:17:13 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (I stand with Israel!)
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To: NoGrayZone

This really shouldn’t worry anyone. Last time around, John McCain got more votes than Rudy G.
He just doesn’t play well in the sticks. I’m a lot more worried about Romney.


69 posted on 05/28/2011 9:19:24 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (I stand with Israel!)
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To: PLD
No, it will not be Rudy. However, Sarah has been non-campaigning for quite some time now.

This bus tour has just about everyone of the lamestream media, as well as the elite repubes heads exploding.

They know, as well as we do, this is her “non-campainging” campaign.

She is brilliant and deserves to be our next POTUS.

70 posted on 05/28/2011 9:20:08 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: Liz

Liz, this is NOT a pro-Rudy thread. You’re preaching to the choir.

I posted this as WARNING. Nothing more, nothing less.

We ALL need to keep on our toes. Sarah’s bus tour has them in a complete panic...especially since they had NO CLUE IT WAS COMING!


71 posted on 05/28/2011 9:23:20 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: NoGrayZone
Conservatives rejected Rudy in 2008 and they would again if he decides to run.

>>>>>>Rudy would be great for National Defense....what he did to NYC (everyone in NYC hated the man, especially unions). He turned what used to be a crap filled dangerous toilet called NYC into what it is now....or used to be.

Lets clear things up. Rudy would not be good for national defense. He was a draft dodger. Also, the NYC unions received very generous contracts from Rudy and the number of city employees went up under Giuliani.

The decrease in crime throughout NYC began under Mayor Dinkins. With strong support from Police Commissioner Howard Safir, Rudy was able to enforce tough anti-crime measures associated with the "broken windows" policies. Those policies were instituted under Transit Police Chief, William J. Bratton during Dinkins run as Mayor. Mayor Bloomberg seems to have done the best job fighting crime in NYC. But I wouldn't ever be voting for Bloomberg, Dinkins or Giuliani.

Truth is, Rudy is an authoritarian who believes in strong gun control policies. While Rudy did a good job as Mayor by NYCity standards, cleaning up Times Square, eliminating the squeegee-men, arresting public urinators and catching turnstile jumpers are not the issues that conservatives will be judging candidates on in the GOP primaries. And Rudy's leadership after 911 is way overblown.

72 posted on 05/28/2011 9:24:13 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: NoGrayZone

Just more misinformation by/from the Liberal Media. With Obama and his mob controlling the MSM, what else can we expect? As Rush says: Don’t let the Libs pick the Republican candidate for us.


73 posted on 05/28/2011 9:25:39 AM PDT by zbogwan2
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To: NoGrayZone


74 posted on 05/28/2011 9:25:50 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: NoGrayZone
We must go on the offense whenever they come out with this crap. That was my point for posting this. It’s Sarah or nothing as far as I’m concerned.

Absolutely. I agree with your reason for posting this.

My comment about the poll huggers amongst us was not about you.

75 posted on 05/28/2011 9:29:13 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: NoGrayZone

“This bus tour has just about everyone of the lamestream media, as well as the elite repubes heads exploding.”

I am laughing because I know you are right..The closer it gets the the more the moron will mess up..

She is brilliant. I agree..She is also classy..and would make us all proud that she is our president..


76 posted on 05/28/2011 9:29:40 AM PDT by PLD
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To: chainsaw

I think we all knew Trump had no intention running for POTUS. I do believe he said he might, just to get the word out.

He FORCED barry to produce yet another fake BC. Can you imagine how much money Trump has lost because of this usurper in OUR White House?

My original intuition, and I still believe it, is that Trump did what he did to clear the way for Sarah. Sarah CANNOT bring up the BC issue, or else she would be lumped in with all of us “crazy birthers”.

He wants barry the usurper out of OUR White House as much as we do. What he did was brave and truly American.

Now barry has 2 fake bc’s out there, as well as his SS # issue. Someone somewhere knows the truth.

Truth CANNOT be held in the darkness for too long. It always rears it sometimes ugly head (ugly for the liars). We are in for a boat load of crap.


77 posted on 05/28/2011 9:31:55 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: 4rcane

Rudy set himself up to run a 1 state campaign in 2008 (FL), and he lost miserably.


78 posted on 05/28/2011 9:33:18 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

If mittens becomes our nom, our country is screwed. As I have stated, I will write in Sarah Palin, which to some is to believed “throwing away” their vote.

In 2008, I pulled my lever for Sarah, NOT mclame. I thought she would kick his a$$ once they won.

I WILL NOT support anyone other than a Conservative this time around. If that means America goes into phase two, so be it.


79 posted on 05/28/2011 9:37:32 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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80 posted on 05/28/2011 9:41:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: NoGrayZone

I don’t mind Rudy but why are they polling independents for the Republican primary field?


81 posted on 05/28/2011 9:41:40 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Rage all you want, looters & moochers, but the gods of the copybook headings are your masters now.)
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To: Reagan Man

You are SO wrong. Your state flag is CO. You state “The decrease in crime throughout NYC began under Mayor Dinkins.”

You obviously did not live in NY during the Dinkin or Rudy years.

Rudy cleaned up NYC. They were all against him, especially the NYFD and NYPD. They HATED Rudy. Why? Because of his cuts.

I remember because I lived in it and through it.

“Mayor Bloomberg seems to have done the best job fighting crime in NYC.”

Again, you obviously know NOTHING regarding NYC. Bloomberg INVITES crime, including inviting ALL illegals to come to NYC. How’s that for “fighting” crime.

Prior to Rudy, anyone living outside the NYC boroughs would only go to NYC, under their own peril.

After Rudy cleaned it up, it was a completely different place.

Since I still live here and go to NYC, only when I must, I notice the difference already. NYC is going back to it’s pre-Rudy years, under Bloomberg.

P.S. DINKINS SUCKED AND STILL DOES!!


82 posted on 05/28/2011 9:47:40 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: Clintonfatigued
>> A new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation national poll shows the former New York City mayor atop the slow-forming Republican primary field. The survey shows Giuliani getting 16 percent of independents and Republicans, with nominal frontrunner Mitt Romney a point behind at 15 percent. <<

And Ron Paul is polling single-digits again. Are Fred Thompson, Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo, and Sam Brownback going to be "thinking about" running next?

Cuz if so, tonight we're gonna party like it's 2007.

No retrends!

83 posted on 05/28/2011 9:49:57 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: FreeReign

Sorry, I’m all riled up. Someone on this thread thinks this is a “pro Rudy” thread, which is isn’t.

I am now on total offense and will attempt to crush any opposition.....people in my life thought I was an “extremist” before have NO idea what’s heading their way.

I apologize to you. =)


84 posted on 05/28/2011 9:56:11 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: PLD
"She is brilliant. I agree..She is also classy..and would make us all proud that she is our president.."

Praise God and beg Him for making it true.

85 posted on 05/28/2011 9:58:43 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: NoGrayZone
RE :"What makes you think Palin will eventually announce her candidacy, and file for it?".....
Oh, I don't know. Just everything she has been doing these past couple of years. If you had been paying attention I would NOT need to explain it to you.
"

Well who am I to argue with 'everything' ? That's alot.

86 posted on 05/28/2011 10:01:47 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: denydenydeny

We don’t really know who they are “polling”....or even if they are.

What they are trying to do is pick our nom....we CANNOT allow it this time around.

It’s make or break it 2012. I believe Sarah, with Cain or West is our only option.


87 posted on 05/28/2011 10:02:43 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: sickoflibs

If you have been paying attention you would NOT have to ask such a question.


88 posted on 05/28/2011 10:04:39 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: NoGrayZone
RE :"If you have been paying attention you would NOT have to ask such a question."

I read a few more of your comments here. I like your enthusiasm, your confidence.

89 posted on 05/28/2011 10:07:03 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: sickoflibs

Thank you =).

These lying back stabbing cockroaches need to have the light shine upon them so they are forced to scurry back into the darkness where they belong (memories of living in the Bronx).

We must go on the offense anytime they attempt to choose our nom for 2012.

I have jumped head first, which is NOT me. I’m a “better safe than sorry” kind of gal.

Our country is on the line. Time for me to come out of my shell and stand for what is right.


90 posted on 05/28/2011 10:16:07 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: NoGrayZone
Rudy??? I just threw up in my mouth.

For any Rudymites out there, I'll restate what I said often during 2007 and early 2008:

I have always voted R for President, all the way back to Reagan, but I will vote third party if Rudy gets the nomination.

91 posted on 05/28/2011 10:19:37 AM PDT by stillonaroll (Nominate a non-RINO in 2012!)
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To: stillonaroll

The only way Rudy can get the nom is if the DEMONcrats jump across the lines and vote him in.

I still can’t believe repubes have open primaries.


92 posted on 05/28/2011 10:29:01 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: All

Thank you Mods!!! I reported the “abuse” upon myself and asked the mods to add a “warning” to my thread title.

They did so, and very quickly. Thank you and God Bless FR!!!


93 posted on 05/28/2011 10:37:24 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: NoGrayZone
Looks like I struck a nerve. GOOD!

>>>>>>P.S. DINKINS SUCKED AND STILL DOES!!

So does Giuliani and Bloomberg. Frankly, after your passionate defense of Rudy, sounds like you'd vote for him to be potus in a NYC minute! Haven't we been here before, you and I? LOL

>>>>>You are SO wrong. Your state flag is CO.

Yeah, southern Colorado is a great place to live, but I'm not wrong about Rudy or about past and present NYC politics. My post was factual and correct.

I was born and raised in NYC. Over the years I witnessed first hand the changes the city went through during Dinkins, Rudy's and Bloomberg's time as Mayor. Between family and friends, my trips back east and the internet, I am well informed of all the details and all gossip. One doesn't have to be a resident of the Big Apple or a genius to stay informed on current events. Get real!

NYC remains a very liberal city, more so today then at any time in the past. Democrats run the city and they have continued to tax and regulate NewYawkers to death. While crime rates began to fall under Dinkins and continued to drop off under Rudy. Under Bloomberg, crime rates dropped to their lowest levels ever. Get your facts straight.

>>>>>Bloomberg INVITES crime, including inviting ALL illegals to come to NYC. How’s that for “fighting” crime.

Rudy wasn't any different. The fact is Rudy protected illegal immigrants when he was Mayor and NYC was a quasi sanctuary city. Rudy also supported the Bush-Kennedy-McCain comprehensive immigration reform of 2005. Rudy says amnesty and a path to citizenship is okay as long as illegals pay a fine for breaking the law. More liberalism!

Btw, Rudy increased the budgets for NYC and increasd the number of city employees. Get your facts straight!

94 posted on 05/28/2011 10:48:57 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: NoGrayZone
"Sarah or bust, or it's on to phase two"

That's not quite clear. If it's not Sarah then is it bust or is it phase two?


95 posted on 05/28/2011 10:54:41 AM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: Reagan Man

You have NOT read any of my posts regarding Rudy.

You jumped to the conclusion “So does Giuliani and Bloomberg. Frankly, after your passionate defense of Rudy, sounds like you’d vote for him to be potus in a NYC minute!”

Rudy was actually on the ballot here in Suffolk County, (Thompson was not, but was in NYC).

As I’ve stated previously, I pulled my lever for SARAH (which, unfortunately had mclame on the same ballot). One of the gals I worked with was ALL for Rudy. I called her after I voted to let her know Rudy was on the ballot and she could vote for HER man.

She said no and was pulling for mclame. I said “ I thought Rudy was your man and you have an opportunity to pull the lever for him”. She declined.

Yes, I had the opportunity to vote for Rudy, but chose Sarah instead.

Therefore, your “everyone has an a$$hole as they have an opinion” has been crushed.

Try again.


96 posted on 05/28/2011 10:59:56 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: I see my hands

Have you not been keeping up? Sarah, or phase two (bust).


97 posted on 05/28/2011 11:01:46 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: Reagan Man; NoGrayZone

“Yeah, southern Colorado is a great place to live, but I’m not wrong about Rudy or about past and present NYC politics. My post was factual and correct.”

I’d like to see links to your ‘facts’. NoGrayZone’s summation exactly fit my experience of Dinkins, Giuliani, and Bloomberg’s mayorships; yours was way off. What kind of people were you getting information from when you’d visit, if you did often?

Using ‘New Yawker’ and ‘NYC minute’ point to not being a New Yorker, even if you might have been born here however long ago. Nobody here except tourists or transplants who want to have the ‘New York experience’ or think it helps fit in as a ‘New Yawker’ uses that phrase, which is ‘New York minute’ properly, anyway.

Again, NoGrayZone is right about how things were, and are. This city was beginning to get violently out of control in the last term of Koch, worsened, even, under Dinkins, and it wasn’t until Giuliani’s first term that things started to slowly change - and he took constant heat for it all the while. Not everything made the local papers, let alone the national news.

And I don’t think he should be president, or even run for president.


98 posted on 05/28/2011 11:12:01 AM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: NoGrayZone
Look, pal. Learn to control your emotions better and maybe you'll be able to debate me on the factual content of my arguments as they relate to Giuliani. Otherwise, at this point your continued foolish behavior makes you come across as a high strung juvenile.

>>>>>You jumped to the conclusion....

Wrong. I just read your passionate defense of Rooty-Toot and posted facts to back up my opinion that Giuliani was a liberal when he was mayor and remains a big time liberal today!

And bringing Sarah Palin into the debate is a red herring.

99 posted on 05/28/2011 11:15:58 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: OldNewYork

Thank you OldNewYork. You have obviously lived through Dinkins, Giuliani, and Bloomberg, as I have, or at least admit the truth about it.

I remember NYC HATING Rudy, especially the NYFD and NYPD.

And you are correct when you state “And I don’t think he should be president, or even run for president.”

Rudy is a bulldog who hates corruption and waste; however, he is a social lib.

I believe he would do great in any position that does not allow him ANY voice in social issues.

Anyone who did not live through the Koch, Dinkin, Rudy, Bloomberg admin has NO clue what NYC was, what it was transformed to, and now becoming what it used to be prior to Rudy.


100 posted on 05/28/2011 11:25:57 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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