Skip to comments.Schools remove filters on gay, lesbian (bisexual, transgender) websites (Virginia)
Posted on 05/28/2011 9:56:44 AM PDT by Libloather
Schools remove filters on gay, lesbian websites
By Keith Walker
Published: May 27, 2011
PRINCE WILLIAM COUNTY, Va. - Prince William County Public Schools has removed filters that block access to certain websites with content relating to lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender issues.
In April, the American Civil Liberties Union of Virginia sent a letter to the school system asking officials to remove the software blocking the sites.
The ACLU learned of the blocking of LGBT sites through its Dont Filter Me initiative, which shows students how to report that their school is filtering content.
At the time, ACLU spokesman Kent Willis said that it was clear that Prince William schools were blocking the LGBT sites while allowing anti-LGBT sites to be viewed.
The action violated the students First Amendment rights, Willis said.
School systems arent allowed to discriminate based on viewpoint and schools are legally bound to provide students with viewpoint neutral access to the Internet, Willis said.
In a Prince William Public Schools news release, Keith Imon, the associate superintendent for communications and technology services, said that the school system was able to remove the filters and still keep students safe from other content.
Internet filtering is difficult, sometimes imprecise, and constantly evolving. It is nearly impossible to find the perfect balance between the protection of students, freedom of speech, and equal access, Imon said in the release. However, the decision to discontinue the use of the LGBT filter is within this balance.
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It’s hard for the kids to get instructions on fisting and tea bagging, and to find dates and hook-up places, if the gay web sites are blocked
Thanks to the school administrator’s PC lack of moral leadership, tasty little pedo snacks are now being served to the pedophile community
Okay, so what’s the point, do people have to know every little detail of what people do in their private lives? I don’t think it is really all that neccessary.
Condition children into thinking the abnormal is normal. You destroy the Bible and idea of God as you encourage destructive, nihilistic ideas that create dysfunctional people who put emotions above intellect.
Surest way to destroy the intellect of children and redirect it into narcissistic destruction. Sexual impulses are powerful and when you are controlled by passion, you are a slave to it. Intellect needs to control the passions to create a rational civil society. Homosexuals want to indoctrinate and seduce children into their lifestyle because they believe in pederasty even if they deny it. It is the foundation of homosexuality since it is learned behavior and sexual identity has to be twisted while a child is forming their sexual identity. This is understood even by Freud who knew that it is necessary in societies to repress sexual instinct. Marcuse wants to UNLEASH all restraints and have man/boy sex....because that is what happens when you have no sexual morals which is what you get with homosexuality.
Destroy the morality and virtue of a culture and you destroy it completely. Founders knew this and of course, Herbert Marcuse and those who control and write textbooks. They are all cultural Marxists.
Can no one stop this pervert from gaining access to the children?
Seems to me that when liberals in office, they set us back 10 years or more in our morals. Conservatives take over but can’t undo more that a couple years of perversion before the next batch of liberals take over.
We’re truly doomed on that trajectory.
I am not following what you are saying here. Please elaborate.
Feltching is fine, but chocolate milk is taboo?
The ACLU learned of the blocking of LGBT sites through its "Don't Filter Me" initiative, which shows students how to report that their school is filtering content.It's long past time for schools to block the "Don't Filter Me" initiative.
What I find problematic is the false idea that this is a freedom issue. Children do not have the right to surf what they will. School is a controlled environment or should be. Most work sites block the gay & lesbian category because it is a more often than not a sexually explicit category. I wonder though if conservative anti-gay activist sites are available for students to surf? Can they visit the following sites?
National Organization for Marriage:
The National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality
Americans for Truth
I also wonder how many gun association sites are blocked.
I’ve found that for the left freedom is a one way street. We need to turn their aggressive style back on them to make certain that even when they get their way that the counter message is just as well available. We may not always win but we can sure as hell even the playing field using their same tactics.
ANYONE who thinks that they can protect their kids after sending them off on that nice yellow bus is NUTS.
I don’t care how ‘involved’ you are as a parent, they HAVE your kids and by God they are going to do as they please to them. My immigrant wife lost 3 nephews to gayness in a large school system in a liberal area. They parent (her siblings) simply, and understandably, had no clue what was going on - but even so, this is absolutely horrible. Back home, those guys would be happily married with kids now.
You will never win trying to fight these people on their turf (i.e., the ‘schools’), you must either defeat them in your state capitol, or simply GET YOUR KIDS OUT of their domain, as some of us have done.
Public School Perverts strike again
I bet the anti-sites did not have any porn, almost all of the LGBT sites are about nothing but promoting sex.
It’s Virginia, so why are you surprised? Norfolk has it’s own personal FREEMASON community, with churches/restaurants etc (NWO); Norfolk, Chesapeake, and Virginia Beach have already done away with Counties, and took away the public records of births, deaths, etc....if you can’t find where they were born, and died, then they don’t exist. Only the person can get their own birth certificate, and must show ID now. Other states are starting to follow suite, it’s like Hawaii and Zero’s BC.
I bet the anti-sites did not have any porn, almost all of the LGBT sites are about nothing but promoting sex.
Not just that, but musing over all the people who supposedly “hate” or “are out to get them”. That was in the early 2000s when I saw any of this, and was a fledgling in internet literacy, and chances are the material has gotten a whole lot worse since then, in terms of what is presented on the site.
ANYONE who thinks that they can protect their kids after sending them off on that nice yellow bus is NUTS.
I think the big trick is more on the line of giving your own spin to the kids vs. what is taught to them. It is difficult, but not impossible.
My opinion on most of this is that the most important thing to teach to the kids in their early years is the basics of speaking, reading, writing, and simple math.
Hey! How else is the superintendent going to be able to watch “Meatspin” at work?
A few days ago I was curious as to when and by how much the various states passed their ‘gay marriage’ bans. I was kind of surprised to see it only passed in Va. by 57% in 2006. I wonder what the outcome would be today. The only other southern state where it was so close was Florida in 2008 with 62%. I guess it must be northern Va.
That is also true
that is true
I think the real issue is recognizing the fact that Virginia, in its northern segment, borders on D.C.. I would be willing to bet plenty of D.C. politicians and staff have their summer homes there in Virginia, or possibly live there if all they have to do is cross the Potomac River. Either way, you easily can have a significant voting block and judiciary for leftist causes due to the proximity to D.C.
What I find problematic is the false idea that this is a freedom issue. Children do not have the right to surf what they will.
The big issue here is how explicit some things are, as far as it appears to me, a great deal is about presenting something on the web that meets the proper standards.
I have seen plenty of sites that were blocked by filtering software due to the profanity of the posts or the bloggers involved. There’s no need to use language that violates the terms of the filter, even if I do disagree with their position. There’s no need to be crude or bombastic in how you present.
Testing the filter used according to the article, all of those sites are available under high filter settings, the “LGBT” category, however, is blocked under the high setting although not the normal one.
Shut down the government schools/leftist propaganda centers. Problem solved.
Time to revive an old tagline ...
That would explain some of the things I saw last week, while visiting there.
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Schools are becoming practically nothing but indoctrination centers for homosexuals. It's absolutely disgusting and every parent who has children in public school should monitor every single thing that goes on. Librarians are commonly ultra leftists, I have no idea why. Also teachers. And to add insult to injury, everyones' property taxes gets sucked into the depraved pit of public schoolery.
SEPARATION OF SCHOOL AND STATE!!!!
Also note the evil ACLU involved. The ACLU is one of the most destructive enemies of all that is good and decent in this country. No wonder, it was founded by communists.
NOM is not a conservative organization— they claim to be against gay marriage, but are actually pro-homosexuality. This has been stated several times on their Facebook page.
Every conservative should dedicate him or herself to the complete abolishment of government schooling on every level. Why?
Every ( that means **all**) government owned and run school in this nation is utterly godless in its worldview. Children **will** learn to think and reason godlessly. They must simply to cooperate with the classroom indoctrination ( oops! “instruction”) and homework assignments. Homosexuality can only thrive in a godless environment.
And....No, there never was any golden age of government schooling. At their very best they offered up a generic and lukewarm Protestantism that could be accepted by voting mob without rebellion. Children who attend lukewarm Christian schools learn to be comfortable with lukewarm religion. Well...We know what Christ does with the lukewarm. He spits them out of His mouth!
If the majority of our nation's citizen who are alive today, had been educated in a thoroughly Judeo-Christian environment that integrated that child's specific religious beliefs into every minute of the school day, we would not be having this discussion about homosexuality. It wouldn't be in our faces in the culture, in the media, in the arts, or part of the K-12 or college classroom discussion. It would still be locked in the closet where it belongs.
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Seven in one day? Yeah, it's got to be a record.
The ACLU is DEMANDING an apology from someone involved with a student led prayer at graduation and demanding that porn be allowed in public schools.
This is SOOOO screwed up.
The ACLU violated the students First Amendment rights when they prohibited the free exercise thereof in student led prayer.
Porn is OK but prayer isn't?
THEY ARE SUCH HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here's all you need to know about the Virginia ACLU (story from CBS News):
(AP) A man who for 12 years served as president of the Virginia chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union was sentenced to seven years in prison for downloading what authorities said was some of the "most abhorrent" child pornography they have ever seen.
Where is commonsense?
Also, they're making sure the homo-curious kid surfs at school instead of at home where parents may have a filter up or check browser histories, discover what he's up to and lovingly get him some help instead of affirming his self-destruction.
I went to an amazing public school. In a middle-class district. It was godless, but I didn’t much want God there. Math and science are godless, and literature is better viewed from the teller’s perspective, not from God’s.
Christ, the world is changing, deal with it. I think I’ve just run out of patience with people like you. We live in an amazing time. It really saddens me when people don’t see that, or bide their time until the rapture. See the silver linings, they’re everywhere.
If corporate America doesn't allow this, then why is it okay for the schools to allow it?
I agree with you we do live in amazing times. But this time like every other time is fraught with dangers of every conceivable kind.
I filter internet access at home for my kids and I dont want the ACLU and the government doing an end round on my parental authority at school.
As far as I am concerned high school students have no free speech rights as long as they are on campus.
Just to play devil’s advocate... I assume you believe high school students should have “free speech rights” off campus. For instance, if your child attended a political event with you, I am assuming you believe he has a right to be there free of police harassment, independent of the fact that you brought him. If he attended a rally you didn’t like (but nothing illegal), you may ground him, but you would fight for his right to be there if the police arrested him, right?
So why would students lose such rights by stepping onto campus? Aren’t school administrators the student version of “big government?” If a student perceives its decisions as arbitrary and irrational, should she have no recourse independent of her parents?
I think that, of necessity, the political rights of children must be on a sliding scale. The courts have held that there is some level of political rights that cannot be denied even children, just as there is some level of political rights that cannot be denied even prisoners.
Prisoners must be provided the ability to write letters, read books, etc. so long as doing so doesn’t compromise security.
School children must be provided the right to political activism so long as it does not disturb the functioning of the school.
These are the prevailing judicial approaches, and they make some sense to me. I do understand not wanting to have your parenting circumvented.
Actually, maybe I don’t understand. I don’t have children, though I hope to, one day. My sympathies, probably due to my age, are more closely aligned with the students. I still remember feeling outraged, despondent, and helpless, under the yoke of—what i felt to be—arbitrary adult authority.
At that age, I thought I was smarter than my parents and teachers. Whether or not I was right, I do realize in retrospect that their authority was not “arbitrary.” However, that doesn’t mean that they were correct. I believe children should have some independent basis of protection for asserting political rights.
I should note that my response addressed your post in the abstract, without regard to the topic of this post.
It’s a tough thing for parents to deal with, no doubt about it. But information does want to be free, and it’s going to get freer and freer. More and more children will even have mobile devices with internet access. They can go to a public library and find all of the same things. There are probably books in their school library you would find morally objectionable.
Although there are reasonable outer bounds, a school cannot incorporate the moral and political peculiarities of every parent when it’s designing a policy on censorship. Public schooling (and all mass-schooling, frankly) sacrifices individualized pedagogy for the sake of efficiency. If a parent finds himself too outside the moral consensus of the society or the other parents, he has little choice but to home school or find a private school more to his liking. That has been the case even before the internet, and I’m not sure there’s another solution to it.
Students lose their free speech rights when walking on to campus for the same reason they lose it when the walk in the door of their home.
It has a legal term called in loco parentus meaning In the place of the parent
It means that the school has the responsibilities and rights of a parent while the child is on the grounds. These rights and responsibilities are necessary to main order.
Prisoners must be provided the ability to write letters, read books, etc. so long as doing so doesnt compromise security. School children must be provided the right to political activism so long as it does not disturb the functioning of the school.
Students are not prisoners and they are not adults. (Personally I dont believe that prisoners convicted of felonies should have any rights beyond those of the right to petition and freedom from cruel and unusual punishment. They certainly should not have the right to vote)
Teens do not have the same rights of adults nor the same responsibilities as adults. They live under the protection of their parents and so are under the control of their parents. In many states a teen can declare themselves emancipated and become legally an adult and free themselves of the parents control. However they then lose the protections of their parents legally.
Whether or not I was right, I do realize in retrospect that their authority was not arbitrary. However, that doesnt mean that they were correct.
Well the beginning of wisdom!
Remember that adults must maintain order; to do that they must have authority in the eyes of the majority of the children in their care. (They are legally and morally liable for the safety of the children numerous school districts are presently being sued for failure in that responsibility).
In my opinion political activity on campus should be limited to voting for student body president. Unless the teacher and school administration decide to have a mock election during the political season any political activity on campus should be forbidden. Such activities can be very disruptive when the hot heads of youth begin to butt up against each other.
Under the guidance of adults outside of school I am all in favor of intelligent youths getting involved with politics.
Call me a conservative but I believe that schools being a part of the community should error on the side of be more restrictive rather than less. The ACLU should stay out of it.
It is a mistake to treat teenagers as adults in the modern age when it comes to sex. There are way too many deleterious influences already trying to tell them that sex is all about having a good time.
Sex has consequences and these websites that were blocked do not have as one of their goals to enlighten teens to that fact.
Teenagers are more immature today than they were 100 years ago and should be treated as the clueless creatures that they are.
“Math and science are godless, and literature is better viewed from the tellers perspective, not from Gods.”
That may just be the most illogical thing I have ever read.
Proverbs 9:10 “The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy [is] understanding.”
The idea of “in loco parentis” is helpful in understanding your position, and your position is not at all an unreasonable one.
However, I would suggest that like all analogies, the concept has its limits.
I agree, and the Supreme Court agrees, that it is a primary responsibility of schools to maintain safety and order. When the Court has held that students have political rights, they have said that schools can still regulate student speech to the extent that the speech would “materially and substantially interfere with the requirements of appropriate discipline in the operation of the school.” (Tinker v. Des Moines is the landmark case on this issue, if you’re curious).
However, analogy notwithstanding, school administrators are not the students’ parents. And so, while they have the responsibility, “in loco parentis,” to keep the kids safe and to maintain order, I would argue you reach the limits of the analogy when you talk about instilling a political or moral orthodoxy that is outside the mainstream. I think most conservatives would agree with that.
The problem is that “the mainstream” vis-a-vis homosexuality and sexuality in general is moving ever further from the conservative position. And so I see the problem as not one of student rights, or school administration, but the shifting mores of society at large.
Could you be more specific? With sincere respect for your faith, I don’t consider Proverbs to be binding authority on school administration.
I guess I should be more specific in turn. If one believes in God, obviously nothing is “godless.” What I meant is that while God can inform the metaphysical understanding of everything that is, his existence or non-existence has no bearing on learning to do calculus or chemistry.
It has a bit more bearing on literature and the arts, but it will still be relevant in a sense personal to each person, which cannot really be taught in a classroom unless everyone is of the same faith.
That's a lie.