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Texas Deputy Killed During Apparent Ambush
FOX NEWS ^ | 5/28/11 | FOX

Posted on 05/28/2011 5:55:46 PM PDT by Doogle

A veteran Bexar County sheriff's deputy was fatally shot during an apparent ambush while waiting at a traffic light in his marked patrol vehicle early Saturday, according to the San Antonio Express.

Forty-five-year-old Sgt. Kenneth Vann was waiting at an intersection just after 2 a.m. Saturday when a small white vehicle pulled up next to him on the right side and started shooting through the front passenger window. Witnesses called police, who discovered Vann dead in the driver's seat.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bexarcounty; crime; freelazamataz; kennethvann; sanantonio; texas; tx; vann
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shame, prayers for family members
1 posted on 05/28/2011 5:55:50 PM PDT by Doogle
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To: Doogle

Wow, what is up with this????? Not good. Prayers for family.


2 posted on 05/28/2011 5:59:31 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Doogle

bump


3 posted on 05/28/2011 5:59:54 PM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: ColdOne

I predict the deed was done by one of San Antonio’s many gang members.......tho, of course, I don’t know that for sure.


5 posted on 05/28/2011 6:04:28 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Doogle

Yes. Prayers for the family.


6 posted on 05/28/2011 6:04:59 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Stayfrosty

What a pathetic individual you are.


7 posted on 05/28/2011 6:05:23 PM PDT by misterrob (You cannot call yourself a conservative if you support socialistic government programs!)
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To: Stayfrosty
After reading about that marine who was slaughtered by the big brother gestapo its hard to find sympathy for slain LE.

What in the h*ll are you talking about? What's the matter with you? Are you comfortable with grouping any member of a profession into one class? You need professional help.

8 posted on 05/28/2011 6:06:17 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Doogle

Prayers to the family and friends of this brave public servant.


9 posted on 05/28/2011 6:06:33 PM PDT by South40 (Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: Doogle

Sad...prayers up for Sgt. Vann’s loved ones.


10 posted on 05/28/2011 6:07:50 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Doogle

Amen! Prayers for family and friends.


11 posted on 05/28/2011 6:08:13 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Stayfrosty

do you know if this police officer was the one that did that to the Marine???? Do you????!!!??? What a terrible terrible thing for you to say. Would you want to face his wife and children and say the very same thing to THEIR faces????? Shame on you! Shame on you!


12 posted on 05/28/2011 6:08:27 PM PDT by cubreporter (Thank you President George W. Bush for the policies you put into place. They WORKED!)
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To: Stayfrosty
That's just wrong.
13 posted on 05/28/2011 6:08:55 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Stayfrosty
One has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

An innocent man being killed is an innocent man being killed. You need to get a life.

14 posted on 05/28/2011 6:09:50 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
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To: Stayfrosty
After reading about that marine who was slaughtered by the big brother gestapo its hard to find sympathy for slain LE.

There is a difference between some hick sheriff's department in New Mexico and the deputies who patrol San Antonio, a city bigger than Boston.

15 posted on 05/28/2011 6:09:59 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Stayfrosty

zot


16 posted on 05/28/2011 6:10:15 PM PDT by xone
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To: Stayfrosty
After reading about that marine who was slaughtered by the big brother gestapo its hard to find sympathy for slain LE.

Wow. Are you sure you don't want to walk that statement back a bit?

17 posted on 05/28/2011 6:10:20 PM PDT by Washi
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To: Doogle

Sounds like a target of opportunity. I wonder if the cartels are trying to send a message?


18 posted on 05/28/2011 6:10:37 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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To: jazusamo

I am not a big fan of law enforcement but I don’t wish any of them dead. They, for the most part, are doing their best to help the communities where they work and live. They have families and loved ones just like we do. And when the cops are targets of random violence, it doesn’t bode well for the rest of us.


19 posted on 05/28/2011 6:10:48 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Stayfrosty

If this were the Olympics, you would win a gold for that record setting leap.


20 posted on 05/28/2011 6:11:35 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Doogle; Tiger_eye

Tiger was that you?


21 posted on 05/28/2011 6:13:56 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Doogle

IMHO...

The good guys need to control LE. The anti-LE posts I keep seeing are disturbing.

Once LE gets so bad that good people can’t rely on it, we have big problems and they need to be fixed.


22 posted on 05/28/2011 6:16:02 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Huguenot)
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To: Steel Wolf

Just the other day here in Michigan, police arrested 3 mexican illegals for assault and conspiracy to commit murder. The guy they beat down didn’t even have anything to do with the murder plot, he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.


23 posted on 05/28/2011 6:16:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Doogle
This only happened because of our collective refusal to implement the Dream Act. And we better not track down the killer as this will only make them hate or more. Or something.

On a serious note, prayers up for this man's and the family.

24 posted on 05/28/2011 6:16:38 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (How much longer can the charade last?)
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To: Stayfrosty

Congratulations for one of the stupidest posts ever at FR.


25 posted on 05/28/2011 6:17:00 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man; All

Frostbutt didn’t get banned YET. Why?

Good grief this was in a different state and we don’t even know if the deputy was ever in a SWAT team at all let alone a hinky, suspicious raid like the one on the Marine in Pima County, Arizona under Sheriff Doofus Assparty.

I wonder if this was a particularly audacious gang initiation.


26 posted on 05/28/2011 6:18:44 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: cripplecreek

I don’t follow. The police arrested the right 3 guys, or the wrong 3 guys? Who was plotting to kill who?


27 posted on 05/28/2011 6:18:49 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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To: Steel Wolf

Cartels send a message... lemme guess could it be “we hate the sheriff”?

Now every once in a blue moon, sheriffs and deputies get themselves mixed up in drug trade, but the gangs usually leave those compromised occifers alone because they will tend to nod and wink.


28 posted on 05/28/2011 6:21:53 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: Stayfrosty

Not feeling sympathy seems a bit much given what we know - he could have been an upstanding man.

Not being surprised - that seems reasonable given what we’ve seen/heard about LE overreach of late.


29 posted on 05/28/2011 6:21:53 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I don’t think this was random violence. It sounds like someone wanted to target a cop when he wasn’t paying attention, and take him out. Maybe not any cop in particular, just one they could kill and get away with.

That’s not random. There’s a purpose in that. Stupid and crazy isn’t that tactically sound. This is the same way that cops would get gunned down in Mexico (before they got more overt about it). ‘Sicarios’, assassins, using motorcycles or small cars, would gun down lone targets then drive off and vanish.


30 posted on 05/28/2011 6:24:56 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Most cops, at heart are great cops and good men.

We don’t need to slaander them as a group.


31 posted on 05/28/2011 6:26:43 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: APatientMan

likely gang/drug related and they were sending a message.....question is.....was it because he was a good cop.....or because he was a bad cop......

prayers for his family........


32 posted on 05/28/2011 6:26:47 PM PDT by is_is (VP Dad of Sgt. G - My Hero - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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To: Doogle

Prayers up for the fallen officer and his kin, and fingers crossed that the scum who did this are quickly apprehended.


33 posted on 05/28/2011 6:28:36 PM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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To: PieterCasparzen
Once LE gets so bad that good people can’t rely on it, we have big problems and they need to be fixed.

Personally I see 3 main problems with police that are creating a bad situation for all.

1 is the inner city. That could turn any good cop bad. After all, even soldiers get to leave the warzone eventually.

2 is over militarization and a steady march toward nationalization of police forces. We were better off when our police were local.

And 3 is bad laws that criminalize virtually everyone.

Watch police at a left wing protest as opposed to at a tea party. At left wing protests they're tense and often dressed in riot gear. At tea party rallies, the police I've seen have been relaxed and chatty. After all, they prefer a conservative living next door to their families.
34 posted on 05/28/2011 6:28:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The ambush of any LEO is a serious, serious thing, beyond the tragic loss of life. It’s a blow at society and the community.

This sounds like something the drug cartels in Mexico would do.

I hope they kill or capture the shooters in short order.


35 posted on 05/28/2011 6:29:01 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: Doogle

Bexar County and San Antonio are quite a ways away from the border with Mexico (remember Texas is BIG)... But this area is in the middle of various gangs... And then there could be other entanglements ...

Wow! What a shock to the family... prayers be with them..


36 posted on 05/28/2011 6:29:05 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: is_is

Prayers for his family and prayers for the world we live in that incidents like this ever even happen.


37 posted on 05/28/2011 6:31:02 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: Steel Wolf

We don’t know the specifics. perps are perps Bad, evil, etc. The guy is probably guilty as hell.

But some cops are just as bad, but with a badge. Hold on, I’m not indicting police, but there are those cops that generate a terrible name for themselves. Mostly covered up by their respective organizations and we never hear about it.

I love law enforcement, but they have many bad apples as well as any other organization.


38 posted on 05/28/2011 6:31:08 PM PDT by RacerX1128
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To: Doogle

The pd will start investigating this execution/murder by looking at the officers bank accounts and searching the officers home and any storage facilities he may have....that is if they want to find the killer... if they don’t do that they already know what’s up.


39 posted on 05/28/2011 6:31:20 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Steel Wolf

Police arrested the right guys. The illegals were planning on killing one man but the man they attacked just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Just goes to show that we need these animals out of our country.


40 posted on 05/28/2011 6:32:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: basil
I predict the deed was done by one of San Antonio’s many gang members.......tho, of course, I don’t know that for sure.

I too was thinking along that line. Perhaps another one of those Mexican drug cartel murders that is spilling over into the US from the drug cartel capital of the (world) just to our South. Good job Obama on sealing our borders.

41 posted on 05/28/2011 6:32:40 PM PDT by Ron H. (The WH is the Republican party's to lose in 2012.)
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To: is_is

If he was a bad cop, I tend to think they’d do more than just a drive by assassination, because they’d have personal access to him sooner or later.

The message is simpler. “We’re in town and untouchable.”


42 posted on 05/28/2011 6:33:48 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Doogle
Everyone hates PC except when they practice it themselves. Of course, then it's not PC, it's just being reasonable.. it's the other guy! He's a jerk! Doesn't he know what to say? Why can't he think like us?!?!?

43 posted on 05/28/2011 6:34:46 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: jazusamo
Guess you do not remember the Pakistani guy that traveled all the way to the united states and shot up the CIA head quarters, because he said a CIA member killed a brother are cousin.
44 posted on 05/28/2011 6:39:12 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: cripplecreek

you forgot a fourth reason.

Affirmative action hiring puts lousy people on the ranks of the force. Over far more qualified and decent people than those that can’t get over a D or F on the tests.

This is a huge problem because these losers make everyone on the force look bad.


45 posted on 05/28/2011 6:42:18 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Good point.


46 posted on 05/28/2011 6:44:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Doogle

This is very sad. I lived in San Antonio for 11 years and would go back there in a minute, if my parents didn’t live so far away. I loved it.


47 posted on 05/28/2011 6:45:00 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Oh most loving Father, preserve us from faithless fears and worldly anxieties.)
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To: Doogle

RIP.


48 posted on 05/28/2011 6:46:01 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Too late, already there in many cities and towns.

Not to worry, the “Patriot Act” has been extended, overly zealous LE will remain unaccountable.


49 posted on 05/28/2011 6:46:47 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition (Loyal Sedition, often described as "To the right of Attila The Hun"!)
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To: Stayfrosty

50 posted on 05/28/2011 6:50:04 PM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said there is no marriage in Heaven. That's why they call it Heaven............)
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