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The Myth of Killer Mercury
Wall Street Journal Online ^ | May 25, 2011 | Willie Soon

Posted on 05/29/2011 10:31:28 AM PDT by I got the rope

By WILLIE SOON AND PAUL DRIESSEN The Environmental Protection Agency recently issued 946 pages of new rules requiring that U.S. power plants sharply reduce their (already low) emissions of mercury and other air pollutants. EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson claims that while the regulations will cost electricity producers $10.9 billion annually, they will save 17,000 lives and generate up to $140 billion in health benefits. There is no factual basis for these assertions. To build its case against mercury, the EPA systematically ignored evidence and clinical studies that contradict its regulatory agenda, which is to punish hydrocarbon use. Mercury has always existed naturally in Earth's environment. A 2009 study found mercury deposits in Antarctic ice across 650,000 years. Mercury is found in air, water, rocks, soil and trees, which absorb it from the environment. This is why our bodies evolved with proteins and antioxidants that help protect us from this and other potential contaminants. Another defense comes from selenium, which is found in fish and animals. Its strong attraction to mercury molecules protects fish and people against buildups of methylmercury, mercury's biologically active and more toxic form. Even so, the 200,000,000 tons of mercury naturally present in seawater have never posed a danger to any living being.

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Another good one by Dr. Soon and Paul Driessen. Looks like they embarrassed EPA just before their public meeting.

You can't ban an element on the periodic table. This is just another way for the EPA to take control using regulations. The mercury science is just as bad as the climate science.

1 posted on 05/29/2011 10:31:30 AM PDT by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope

271 comments so far. LOL


2 posted on 05/29/2011 10:31:58 AM PDT by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope

later


3 posted on 05/29/2011 10:36:03 AM PDT by goodnesswins (...both islam and the democrat plantation thrive on poverty)
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To: I got the rope

40 years ago we used to play with mercury in science class. Being the only metal that was liquid at room temperature was very cool. As far as I know, I’m still alive (unless I’ve died and gone to hell and just can’t tell the difference).


4 posted on 05/29/2011 10:40:10 AM PDT by PhilosopherStone1000
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To: I got the rope

If mercury is so dangerous, why is the government requiring that we bring it into our homes in these stupid cfl bulbs?


5 posted on 05/29/2011 10:41:05 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: I got the rope
When I was a kid I played with mercury from broken thermometers on a regular basis. I heated it in test tubes in chemistry class. I've used it to remove lead fouling from gun barrels.

I have no doubt that mercury is toxic but there are far more dangerous things to worry about.

6 posted on 05/29/2011 10:46:59 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a matter of fact, not a matter of opinion)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

LOL - A buddy of mine back in the ‘50s used to carry a really shiny, slippery quarter around with him at all times. He’s dead now but not from mercury poisoning.


7 posted on 05/29/2011 10:52:34 AM PDT by badgerlandjim
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To: I got the rope

If mercury was as lethal as proclaimed, dental assistants and dentists would have a very short life expectancy considering how much they are exposed to it in their work.

This isn’t about “safety” of the public, its about control of the public.


8 posted on 05/29/2011 10:59:09 AM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

I played with mercury also, all paint was lead based, we had leaded gasoline, we even rode bicycles without helmets!!! Just because some parent had an idiot kid who ingested mercury or paint chips the government has come in to take control. Because they know better. The government is the idiot parent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


9 posted on 05/29/2011 11:03:15 AM PDT by OldBullrider (if yur hurt, rub some dirt on it, and get back to work)
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To: I got the rope

http://www.mercurypoisoningproject.org/pdf/october2003gastroenteritis.pdf

Mercury, metallic mercury, has been used as a folk remedy for decades.

Also, Santaria uses metal mercury, as do some other Carribean practices:

http://www.mercurypoisoningproject.org/pdf/2008GARETANOetal.pdf

If Hg were as deadly as EPA wishes it to be, it would be an obvious health problem. Consider that a drop of Hg can shut down a State-monopoly school for a week, yet a Santaria practitioner will sprinkle a gram on their floors for “health and luck”.


10 posted on 05/29/2011 11:05:02 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Rurudyne; steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; xcamel; AdmSmith; ...

Thanks I got the rope.
EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson claims that while the regulations will cost electricity producers $10.9 billion annually, they will save 17,000 lives and generate up to $140 billion in health benefits. There is no factual basis for these assertions. To build its case against mercury, the EPA systematically ignored evidence and clinical studies that contradict its regulatory agenda, which is to punish hydrocarbon use.

11 posted on 05/29/2011 11:06:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: OldBullrider

> we even rode bicycles without helmets!!!

You daredevil, you !!!


12 posted on 05/29/2011 11:11:04 AM PDT by Nonsense Unlimited
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To: SunkenCiv; DollyCali; markomalley; Bockscar; Thunder90; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; Normandy; ...
Thanx for the ping SunkenCiv !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

13 posted on 05/29/2011 11:15:22 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: I got the rope

Metallic mercury is not the main problem. It’s the organic compounds it forms in nature or that are man-made. They are far from harmless. One drop of dimethyl mercury is deadly.
Here’s an interesting article.

http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/motm/dimethylmercury/dmmh.htm


14 posted on 05/29/2011 11:31:22 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: I got the rope

15 posted on 05/29/2011 11:40:28 AM PDT by mikrofon (Mercury, Killed)
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To: I got the rope

“271 comments so far. LOL”

Mostly ripping the article and Soon. I’ve only read about 50 so far though.


16 posted on 05/29/2011 11:41:39 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: I got the rope
"the 200,000,000 tons of mercury naturally present in seawater"

So there is Hg in Sea Salt?

17 posted on 05/29/2011 11:41:52 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/abs/10.1139/a03-004?journalCode=er


18 posted on 05/29/2011 11:47:43 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: I got the rope; SunkenCiv
You have nothing to worry about from CFL bulbs. probably.

Compact Fluorescent Bulbs and Mercury: Reality Check

“Though it’s nothing to laugh at, unless you wipe up mercury [without gloves] and then lick your hand, you’re probably going to be okay.”

What is the proper way to handle a broken CFL?

Open the windows and let the room air out for 15 to 30 minutes, then remove as much material as possible without a vacuum cleaner. Using disposable gloves, scoop the glass onto a piece of cardboard and wipe the area with a wet paper towel. For smaller pieces of glass and powder, use duct tape to pull up the fragments and wash your hands after cleaning up the debris.

Another public service by EPA (EVERYONE'S PAIN in the ASS)

19 posted on 05/29/2011 11:54:22 AM PDT by bigheadfred (I have this irrational, pervasive fear of clowns--a bozophobe)
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To: I got the rope

> the regulations will cost electricity producers $10.9 billion annually,

No, it will NOT.
It WILL coast electricity consumers $10.9 billion.
Producers pay nothing, they just pass along the costs.


20 posted on 05/29/2011 12:02:56 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: I got the rope
Ounce again the Executive is legislating at whim while the Legislature blissfully wallows in it's own self created corruption.
21 posted on 05/29/2011 12:26:17 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

Same here. Coach ... who doubled as the science teacher had a jar of mercury and went around to each kid and poured a bit in our hands so we could play with it while he lectured about it in class.


22 posted on 05/29/2011 12:28:08 PM PDT by crusadersoldier
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To: SunkenCiv
Alexander Calder made a very interesting fountain for the NATO head quarters that pumped mercury and let it run and fall from several levels. Guess they must have dismantled it by now.


23 posted on 05/29/2011 12:35:38 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: kittymyrib

So they can ban the CFL bulbs, and make us dependent on them for light.


24 posted on 05/29/2011 12:39:09 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: I got the rope
..................the regulations will cost electricity producers $10.9 billion annually.....................

The regulations will cost electricity CONSUMERS $10.9 billion annually!

There, fixed it!

25 posted on 05/29/2011 12:54:40 PM PDT by Noob1999
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
I have no doubt that mercury is toxic but there are far more dangerous things to worry about.

Yes, indeed. Next on the EPA hit list is di-hydrogenoxide. Do you know how many bilions of dollars will be saved when we finally ban this most dangerous of compounds?

26 posted on 05/29/2011 1:01:18 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Sarah pisses off all the right people! - FReeper proudpapa)
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To: kittymyrib

So they can play musical chairs with our income. Next step is banning cfl bulbs, bringing back candles or something.


27 posted on 05/29/2011 1:09:30 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: I got the rope

I listened to a presentation at e Bostn Sci Museum last mont. It was given by a leading expert From MIT. She clearly showed that the US produces very little mercury emissions, but is poisened but those of China and other developing countries. The US governs the mercury emissions, and the others don’t. Mercury gets into the atmosphere and deposits on us. We could eliminate all of our mercury and that wont change the level of poluton we suffer. The answer has to come from China and others; fat chance of that.

So let’s pass more feel good laws that shackle our businesses. Let’s pretend we are responsible and pay for false promises. Let’s pretend that government isn’t the problem, the cause of America’s ills.


28 posted on 05/29/2011 1:10:02 PM PDT by kdot
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To: bill1952
Producers pay nothing, they just pass along the costs.

If that was true, regulations wouldn't drive producers into bankruptcy, which they routinely do. I suggest you brush up on the economic substitution effect and the indifference curve.

The point is, there is a limit to what customers will pay when regulations drive up the price of a good before they seek a substitute good.

29 posted on 05/29/2011 1:25:12 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: I got the rope

The benefits of hormesis are also being ignored.


30 posted on 05/29/2011 1:36:57 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: PhilosopherStone1000

In Hell the President of the United States is a half-Kenyan Marxist.


31 posted on 05/29/2011 1:38:56 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Carry_Okie

Nice way to come out swinging. Your initials should be KO.


32 posted on 05/29/2011 1:44:03 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: neverdem; DvdMom; grey_whiskers; Ladysmith; Roos_Girl; Silentgypsy; conservative cat; ...

Quicksilver ping.


33 posted on 05/29/2011 1:44:45 PM PDT by decimon
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To: bigheadfred

Thanks bigheadfred.

‘I’ve been using CFL bulbs for over ten years now. The little old house here has those post-wwii globe fixtures, screws to open ‘em, and I got tired of the incandescents (including 130 volt, oven, and fan bulbs) burning out all the time.

I’ve never replaced any of the CFLs.

I’ve never had them burn the house down, blow up, break, make any noises, anything.

I’m sure that the psychics around here are ready to tell me how I’m *going* to have all those problems, just like psychics of a different rant have told me that it’s only a matter of time before I’m victimized by police brutality.


34 posted on 05/29/2011 1:45:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Take a guess how many have died due to methyl mercury in the U.S.

Answer: Two

One was a hog farmer in New Mexico — fungacide

the other was a researcher...she dropped a drop of it on her arm. Died within weeks.

I am desperately looking for more. FREEPERS! Please post if you know of any. Thanks!


35 posted on 05/29/2011 1:47:47 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: 1010RD

Good post. The government doesn’t talk about that anymore.


36 posted on 05/29/2011 1:52:44 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Moose Burger

Doesn’t China put lead in their candles, or maybe in the wicks? How many items does China dump on the U.S. with banned substances?

[Mr] t


37 posted on 05/29/2011 2:01:39 PM PDT by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: I got the rope
Correct me if I'm wrong, but mercury doesn't kill you directly and immediately. Instead, it causes neurological damage and drives you insane. Recall the Mad Hatter from Alice in Wonderland. Why were 19th century hatters considered mad?

From Wikipedia:

"Although the name "Mad Hatter" was clearly done and inspired by the phrase "as mad as a hatter", there is some uncertainty as to the origins of this phrase. Mercury was used in the process of curing pelts used in some hats, making it impossible for hatters to avoid inhaling the mercury fumes given off during the hat making process; hatters and mill workers thus often suffered mercury poisoning, causing neurological damage, including confused speech and distorted vision."

38 posted on 05/29/2011 2:34:12 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: SunkenCiv

I’ve been using CFL bulbs for over ten years, now I don’t have to leave the comfort and safety of my computer chair.

teehee

And as far as police brutality experiences go, turn on your ESP. Use your CFT (Canya Feel This) bulb. I’ll share.

teehee


39 posted on 05/29/2011 2:52:26 PM PDT by bigheadfred (Why does this feel like Deja vu?)
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To: I got the rope
the regulations will cost electricity producers $10.9 billion annually,

That $10.9 billion will be lining somebody's pockets. Most likely those with political connections.

40 posted on 05/29/2011 2:58:23 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: I got the rope

I was merely pointing out that there is a difference between a handful of metallic mercury and its compounds, especially organic. A number on FR seem to think if the one is OK, then mercury is not dangerous at all.

“Minamata disease” (methylmercury poisoning) killed a couple thousand in Japan and left a bunch messed up.

Neither over-hyping nor under-hyping the danger of mercury is a good idea.


41 posted on 05/29/2011 3:03:11 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

The Feds trying to make a big fuss about Mercury is not about the element, it is about Glenn Beck’s company, LOL.


42 posted on 05/29/2011 3:49:45 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: SunkenCiv
...psychics of a different rant have told me that it’s only a matter of time before I’m victimized by police brutality.

Got an eye on you.

43 posted on 05/29/2011 3:59:51 PM PDT by decimon
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To: Lexinom
causing neurological damage, including confused speech and distorted vision.

Obviously, the precursor to liberalism.

44 posted on 05/29/2011 4:23:14 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SunkenCiv

I love CFLs. I once got some for free. The next best price I paid was 17 cents a bulb for about 2 dozen bulbs. I watch for sales and I’ve never paid more than 45 cents a bulb.

I’ve replaced some, but they lasted years and years of continual use. I like the low electric bill, coupled to the low prices paid initially my savings are enormous. The ones I got for free gave me an infinite return. ;-]

I also can help you with the police brutality thing. FReepmail me your home address.


45 posted on 05/29/2011 4:27:17 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: bigheadfred; decimon

Can I make my tuna salad sandwiches again?


46 posted on 05/29/2011 4:29:22 PM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: Silentgypsy; decimon

Like I told ya, it wasn’t the mercury that did us in, it was the mayo. Just use Miracle Whip and we will be fine, just fine.


47 posted on 05/29/2011 4:33:07 PM PDT by bigheadfred (Why does this feel like Deja vu?)
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To: OldBullrider

Riding bicycles without helmets on GRAVEL in shorts, riding in the back of pickup trucks, no seatbelt on long cross-country trips, real sugar in our soft drinks, pbj lunches, REAL firecrackers and fireworks, etc etc.

Not to mention some of our experiments, like the “Fearless Fosdick Front-Wheel Foot Brake”. That one you only used ONCE! < BG >

It’s a miracle we’re alive at all, I’ll tell ya!


48 posted on 05/29/2011 4:33:19 PM PDT by Don W (You can forget what you do for a living when your knees are in the breeze.)
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To: badgerlandjim

Forgive me if it is obvious, but I don’t get the quarter, could you explain to a sometimes dense me?


49 posted on 05/29/2011 4:41:23 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: kittymyrib

>> “If mercury is so dangerous, why is the government requiring that we bring it into our homes in these stupid cfl bulbs?” <<

.
Or allowing dentists to stuff our teeth with it?

Hypocrisy, Government is thy name.


50 posted on 05/29/2011 4:47:57 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Going 'EGYPT' - 2012!)
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