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McCain: Lack of full U.S. military commitment hurts Libyans
The Washington Times ^ | 2011-05-29 | Ben Wolfgang

Posted on 05/29/2011 9:44:12 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

Sen. John McCain on Sunday said Libyan civilians are dying in large part because the Obama administration has refused to commit the full weight of the nation’s military to the fight to overthrow strongman Col. Moammar Gadhafi.

“This thing could have been over a long time ago,” Mr. McCain, an Arizona Republican who was the party’s 2008 presidential nominee, said on “Fox News Sunday.”

(snip)

A quicker end to the fighting, which must include the removal of Col. Gadhafi from power, Mr. McCain said, would make it less likely that terrorists would gain a foothold in Libya.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: bho44; gaddafi; libya; mccain; mccaintruthfile; missioncreep; nato; noflyzone; obama; obamaswar; regimechange; warmonger; warpowers

1 posted on 05/29/2011 9:44:17 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

Considering that we have no business in Libya, what the hell does Mcnasty or anyone else in American politics have to vent their opinions.


2 posted on 05/29/2011 9:54:03 PM PDT by doc1019 (Palin/West, unbeatable.)
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To: rabscuttle385
What, isn't this a-hole dead yet? He needs a one-way trip to the vet for the long nap.
3 posted on 05/29/2011 9:54:18 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: rabscuttle385

Would be nice to take Assad with him


4 posted on 05/29/2011 9:54:38 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Who is John Galt)
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To: rabscuttle385

Here we go...


5 posted on 05/29/2011 9:54:38 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: rabscuttle385

Say “Goodbye”, John, and leave Libya to the Libyans. It is none of our affair.


6 posted on 05/29/2011 9:55:50 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: rabscuttle385

“would make it less likely that terrorists would gain a foot hold..”

Really dude? I don’t trust these “freedom fighters” any further than I can throw them.


7 posted on 05/29/2011 9:58:05 PM PDT by berdie (qill)
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To: rabscuttle385

go away McCain


8 posted on 05/29/2011 9:59:38 PM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: rabscuttle385

Is McCain sponsoring a bill to authorize the president to send the military to Libya?


9 posted on 05/29/2011 10:00:21 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: rabscuttle385

“McCain: Lack of full U.S. military commitment hurts Libyans”

Lack of U.S. military commitment has hurt us on our own border too....we see where your priorities lie.

Up yours McCain!


10 posted on 05/29/2011 10:01:12 PM PDT by DwFry (Baby Boomers Killed Western Civilization!)
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To: rabscuttle385

You would think from McCain telling it he singlehandedly won the Iraq war because he backed the surge. Now on to his next victory in Libya. John, find us a national security interest in that craphole and we will let you singlehandedly win that one too.But do us a favor first and retire.


11 posted on 05/29/2011 10:01:51 PM PDT by chuckee ( gives too much credence to the UK's)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Why would anyone help this rino retain his Senate seat?????


12 posted on 05/29/2011 10:02:33 PM PDT by taraytarah
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To: rabscuttle385
...would make it less likely that terrorists would gain a foothold in Libya

Hate to clue you in, but the whole point IS to let the terrorists gain a foothold (at least that's my theory... for lack of any other rational explanation).

13 posted on 05/29/2011 10:04:28 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: rabscuttle385

I don’t care about deposing Kadaffi in Lybia. It is not worth the life of a single American serviceman to remove him and install other muslims who might be a bit more friendly to western bankers and the IMF. They never stopped pumping oil,,,,


14 posted on 05/29/2011 10:09:33 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: rabscuttle385

i’m disappointed. the Washington Times doesn’t usually lie like the NY Times...

NATO has killed more confirmed civilians, including children, than Quadafi.

and the rebels ARE from eastern Libya, which our own reports confirm, was the largest supplier of Afghan foreign fighters. The SAME people we are bombing in Afghanistan, we are HELPING in Libya, to give them a country !

...just as Obama just gave Egypt to the Muslim Brotherhood, and persecution and murder of the Coptic Christians immediately INCREASED.

and another story in Yemen, has the Islamists controlling a town, and filling the streets with bodies.
yet AGAIN, President Obama, is SUPPORTING the Islamist and Al-Queda “rebels”, against the Yemen president who was previously our ALLY.

...so knowingly or not, McCain is HELPING Islamic terrorists.


15 posted on 05/29/2011 10:12:11 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Elendur

You’re absolutely right. I always knew Obama couldn’t care less about America but I don’t understand why McCain hates us too.


16 posted on 05/29/2011 10:21:53 PM PDT by MissMack99 (BO Stinks!)
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To: rabscuttle385
Five time aircraft crash survivor, and Navy pilot John McCain, turned to his North Vietnamese advisers today, preparing for his role in “Operation out in a week”, the US non war against Libya.
17 posted on 05/29/2011 10:23:10 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Duh. So far the 0bama/NATO actions have created a stalemate insuring unceasing loss of life on both sides. Liberal views of compassion usually do create more suffering than would otherwise exist.


18 posted on 05/29/2011 10:25:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: rabscuttle385

Well, John...

That would have involved Obama being honest about his motives, and that wasn’t going to happen.


19 posted on 05/29/2011 10:38:43 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: rabscuttle385

Mr GOP candidate John “you have nothing to fear from a President Obama” McCain apparently wouldn’t have been any better than the communist/narcissist/idiot we are now stuck with.


20 posted on 05/29/2011 11:20:41 PM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: All
“This thing could have been over a long time ago”...

This part is certainly true. If regime change was the goal, not this R2P load of bull, it could've been over long ago.

If it's not the goal, keep out of Gaddafi's way and let him squash the insurrection.

Seriously, John McCain, we have NO business involved in Libya's affairs. None. Zero. No boots. No air strikes. No military advisors. No arms.

21 posted on 05/30/2011 12:03:16 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Republicans curtail freedoms too, they just do it more slowly than Democrats.)
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To: Aria

Zonies are responsible for reelecting this RINO AGAIN!!!
He could have prevented the Obama debacle but TRYING TO WIN!
He could have requested proof of eligibility.
He could have pointed out that BeHO and the Dims discussed stealing the 401Ks October 22 and 23 2008... but he did not.

Last election he became a border hawk.... AFTER sponsoring an amnesty bill with Teddy Kennedy just 2 years before.
His daughter is a full blown left wing liberal politician wannabe.
PAY ATTENTION PEOPLE!!!


22 posted on 05/30/2011 12:07:07 AM PDT by armourup (Your Doctor is 100% wrong about Lyme Disease.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Sound like another war, juan was out of the loop on that one as well.


23 posted on 05/30/2011 1:25:19 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: rabscuttle385
What's the matter Johnny?

Did Darth Resident alter the deal again?

Will you ever tire of selling yourself and country for a senate seat??? Doesn't appear so.

24 posted on 05/30/2011 1:52:29 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: doc1019

I cannot understand why we as a nation seem compelled to engage in undeclared wars halfway round the planet and at the same time do not intervene in the affairs of oppressive regimes in our own neighborhood. Venezuela and Cuba come to mind.

The founders put the requirement for a formal declaration of war by Congress in the Constitution for a very specific reason — to prevent the rise of the imperial presidency we’ve experienced since WWII. Over 100,000 American lives have been lost since WWII, and untold trillions of dollars of US taxpayer money spent, in lengthy undeclared wars which did not advance our strategic interests.

We can no longer afford to be the world’s policeman trying to bring democracy to areas of the planet where the cultural and economic environment is not favorable to representative government. We have enough problems at home. It is long past time for us to pack up, bring our soldiers and weapons home. Let the rest of the world duke it out.

In Asia we might actually find we benefit from India, Pakistan, Iran, and Vietnam growing their military strength to counter the China threat instead of depending on the US military. It is very possible European outlook on the world would be very different had European taxpayers covered the cost of defending themselves from Russia during the post WWII era instead of getting a free ride from the US taxpayer. The situation in the Middle East today would almost certainly be better had Sadaam been left in power in Iraq to counter Iran.

In their writings the founding fathers warned their generation and future generation about the follies and dangers of “foreign adventures”. If our experience over the past 100 years has not taught us a painful lesson, perhaps the impending financial collapse of our currency and economy will end the foolishness.

I am not a flaming leftist or pacifist. I am however a conservative who believes in the rule of law and interpreting the Constitution as written. If Congress declares a war after careful deliberation, I will support it. If the President invades foreign nations without obtaining Congressional approval within 60 days, I oppose it. This has nothing to do with supporting our troops.


25 posted on 05/30/2011 3:16:00 AM PDT by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Lack of full U.S. military commitment hurts Libyans

If true, we would have something in common with the Libyans. Obama's lack of commitment to America is hurting us too.

26 posted on 05/30/2011 3:28:58 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: taraytarah

The question Palin supporters don’t want asked.


27 posted on 05/30/2011 3:32:04 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: Soul of the South
You are exactly right, our troops are being put in harms way with no objective goals.

After Vietnam we said we would never allow this to happen again.

Yet, we are still in Afghanistan after 10 years.

28 posted on 05/30/2011 3:36:03 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: rabscuttle385

Libyans wanting to kill each other hurts Libyans.


29 posted on 05/30/2011 4:49:02 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Jeez, shut this old man up....he’s almost as worse as Obama. I can’t tell at times.


30 posted on 05/30/2011 4:49:46 AM PDT by Rick_Michael (Have no fear "President Government" is here)
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To: Elendur

There are two native elements that might be capable of running a government in eastern Libya: The Sanussiya Sufi brotherhood or the Muslim Brotherhood and its Islamist allies. The Sanussi, which supported the deposed King Idris, seem a very weak reed. The Muslim Brotherhood was persecuted by Qaddafi throughout his tenure, but seems to be trying to rebuild. Unfortunately, I can find no good reporting on eastern Libya, and just who it is and what rebel element NATO supports seems an open question.


31 posted on 05/30/2011 6:49:33 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: Vince Ferrer

McCain is such a moron. What does he want, boots on the ground. We are committed in two wars and now he wants a third?
The man must be eating lead paintchips or washes his hands in Mercury.


32 posted on 05/30/2011 6:49:58 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: rabscuttle385

This from the jackwagon that does not believe the War Powers Act is a law.

FUJMc.


33 posted on 05/30/2011 7:00:57 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: Melchior

well you seem to know much greater detail than me!!!
but the US Government’s own report on the Islamist fighters going to Afghanistan was pretty convincing to me.

http://www.asiantribune.com/news/2011/03/17/libyan-rebellion-has-radical-islamist-fervor-benghazi-link-islamic-militancyus-milit
Libyan rebellion has radical Islamist fervor: Benghazi link to Islamic militancy: U.S. Military Document Reveals

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/263150/re-qaddafi-was-right-mark-steyn
Re: Qaddafi Was Right? March 26, 2011 By Mark Steyn

http://libyarevolt.wordpress.com/2011/03/07/wikileaks-confirmed-al-quaeda-gets-hold-on-eastern-libya/
WikiLeaks confirmed: Al-Quaeda gets hold on eastern Libya!

...bottom line, i don’t think bombing Quadafi is in the US interest. but it does help the Islamists “arab spring”, from Tunisia to Yemen...
and Obama reportedly met with the M.B. 2 months before Mubarak was ousted. And now Obama supports funding the “arab spring” with billions.
and i think him and Samantha Powers, are itching to give the “Libyan” treatment to Israel. i think it all fits, especially when Powers basically wrote that long ago in her report about “humanitarian interventions”.


34 posted on 05/30/2011 8:32:44 AM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Soul of the South

I agree with you 100%. The only war since WW2 that was justified is the invasion of Afghanistan. Now that Osama Bin Laden is dead, we need to immediately withdraw our troops. Effective by the end of this year.


35 posted on 05/30/2011 8:38:39 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Elendur

If NATO is arming the LIFG — actually or through stupidity — then all bets are off. Tangentially, I have no evidence but I feel sure that the Egyptian Islamists must be supporting and arming the LIFG actives in Libya.

The reason that I would tie the Muslim Brotherhood to the LIFG is that shortly after its creation the Brotherhood created a fighting group: It was forced to as its younger members became more and more radicalized. That event caused nothing but decades of trouble in Egypt. Today, even though the world-wide Muslim Brotherhood leadership that resides in Egypt can publicly deplore terrorism, it will not jettison its more radical Islamist partners such as the Egypt Islamic Jihad, the LIFG, the Jamaat al-Islamiya, the fighting elements within Hamas, etc. Thus, it now seems increasingly clear that an LIFG victory in eastern Libya would presage a Muslim Brotherhood government for that region. More depressing by far, it doesn’t appear as though NATO has an alternative.


36 posted on 05/30/2011 10:00:44 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: MinorityRepublican
I agree with you 100%. The only war since WW2 that was justified is the invasion of Afghanistan. Now that Osama Bin Laden is dead, we need to immediately withdraw our troops. Effective by the end of this year.

You have no idea how many people agree with this - liberals + conservatives - notice I didn't say Democrats and Republicans. If someone who we could believe would run on this platform I think it would be a landslide. Wars have bankrupted many a nation.

37 posted on 05/30/2011 11:10:13 AM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: fortheDeclaration

Their excuses were/are infantile.


38 posted on 05/30/2011 11:55:19 AM PDT by taraytarah
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To: MinorityRepublican

As a matter of hindsight, I would think the first Iraq war was just as essential in our national interest. Saddam had taken Kuwait and there was every indication that he was also going to invade Saudi which would have put him in control of 60% of the world’s oil supply and created global economic havoc. I suspect that is why Bush Sr was able to build a wide coalition among developed nations.In fact,the coalition did finance a large part of our cost of the first Iraq war


39 posted on 05/30/2011 8:23:39 PM PDT by chuckee ( gives too much credence to the UK's)
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To: Soul of the South

I will say that you are pretty well-reasoned. When did Qadaffi actually bother invading and occupying our allies? When did Qadaffi bother using nerve gas on massive civilian populations? Since when was Qadaffi not open about his possessing WMDs? Funny thing is, all those questions would have been a yes for Saddam Hussein, and a no for Qadaffi. I do agree very well that Qadaffi hasn’t really been much of an aggressor to other nations. As far as I am concerned, radicalism got a defibrilator applied to it through what is going on in Libya right now. All I can surmise is that our president is either stubborn or a pawn of his Secretary of State, which, in case you didn’t notice, his plays resemble Slick Willie Clinton’s a great deal (rudeness to foreign national leaders, bombing nations without “feet on the ground”, picking various conflicts to take a role in, etc.)


40 posted on 05/31/2011 9:33:10 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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