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Global Warming News From The Brits (UK dooms itself)
Right Wing News ^ | May 29, 2011 | Dennis Avery

Posted on 05/29/2011 10:08:34 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

CHURCHVILLE, VA—My colleague Bennie Peiser, of Britain’s Global Warming Policy Foundation, offers some of his latest man-made global warming news:

The Sunday Times noted on May 22 that the UK government has agreed to cut its greenhouse emissions 50 percent by 2027. As a result, “Tata Steel last week announced it was cutting 1,500 jobs at its Scunthorpe and Teeside plants. The company, which employs 21,000 in Britain, has held high-level talks with government in recent weeks over its energy plans. . . . Ineos founder Jim Ratcliffe warned that he could be forced to shut the firm’s Runcorn chlorine plant, a big energy user . . . and employer of more than 1,000 people. According to Civitas [the think tank] . . . total energy bills . . . could rise by 141 percent by 2020.”

The Henley Standard said May 23 that houses and business premises as of 2016 must qualify for at least an “E” energy rating. At least 682,000 properties will need to be improved—and “this will radically increase rental costs as landlords withdraw their properties from the rental sector.”

Homeowners will also have to retrofit their houses with required energy-saving features such as double-glazed windows and more insulation, said The Guardian May 19. “The householder pays nothing up front, but the equipment and installation costs will be added in installments to the household’s energy bills for years.” At the moment, says the Guardian, householders will be charged market interest rates, which could mean 8 percent annually. Germany has attracted homeowner cooperation with subsidized loans as low as 2.65 percent—but the British government probably can’t afford to offer that.

The Sunday Telegraph of May 22 says the Welsh Assembly faces “the biggest consumer demonstration so far in Britain” if it goes forward with a plan for 800 giant new wind turbines on mid-Wales hills. In the Welsh Parliament, Glyn Davies said “the two-megawatt turbines would cost at least [$2.7 billion, plus another $500 million] for the infrastructure.” In contrast, a far bigger gas-fired power plant near Plymouth will produce power without subsidy at one fifteenth the cost—and without disfiguring the Welsh hills. “How many of those assembly members,” he asked, “will manage to step outside the bubble of illusion surrounding wind power?” David Rose in The Mail on Sunday, May 22, reported a remarkable meeting of climate skeptics and “warmists.” He asked John Mitchell of the British Meteorological Office how long the planet’s non-warming would have to continue before [Mitchell] would start to question the computerized climate models. Mitchell replied, “People underestimate the power of models. Observational evidence is not very useful.” In other words, don’t doubt the coming disaster of man-made global warming just because the planet has stopped warming.

Henrik Svensmark of the Danish Space Institute told the meeting, “a key determinant of climate is the level of cosmic rays from outer space that hit the earth: these high-energy particles ‘seed’ the clouds. . . . More rays mean more clouds, and in turn a cooler climate.” Svensmark has demonstrated that “quite small variations in the amount of cloud cover have a big effect on temperature, leaving only a “small ‘residual’ role for man-made CO2.”

Finally, Briton Matt Ridley in the May 21 Wall Street Journal reported, “Haiti meets about 60 percent of its energy needs with charcoal produced from forests. Even bakeries, laundries, sugar refineries and rum distilleries run on the stuff. Full marks to renewable Haiti, the harbinger of a sustainable future! Or maybe not: Haiti has felled 98 percent of its tree cover and counting. . . . Haitians are now burning tree roots to make charcoal.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 2027; charcoal; climatechange; cuts; emissions; emissionscuts; energy; energybills; fossilfuels; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; greatbritain; haiti; housing; jobs; plymouth; restrictions; unitedkingdom; wales; windturbines

1 posted on 05/29/2011 10:08:42 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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2 posted on 05/29/2011 10:12:58 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I hate politically correct sorosmonkey superheroes!)
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3 posted on 05/29/2011 10:14:45 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I hate politically correct sorosmonkey superheroes!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Whoooops! Could you repeat that, please???


4 posted on 05/29/2011 10:16:45 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I hate politically correct sorosmonkey superheroes!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
...the two-megawatt turbines would cost at least [$2.7 billion, plus another $500 million] for the infrastructure.” In contrast, a far bigger gas-fired power plant near Plymouth will produce power without subsidy at one fifteenth the cost

So they will spend at lest 3 BILLION dollars to build wind turbines, that will only work when it is windy, yet they can use natural gas at 1/15 of the cost. That makes sense.

IIRC, the last nuclear plant built in the US cost around 6 billion, and that works with or without wind and sun.

5 posted on 05/29/2011 10:18:21 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If their treatment of global warming doesn’t do them in, their treatment of crime will, and if that doesn’t work there’s their treatment of Islam. They are doomed in three different ways. Four if you count socialism.


6 posted on 05/29/2011 10:18:26 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: coloradan

They’re worried sick about “greenhouse gases,” but apparently being overrun by radical Pakistani Muslims is of no great concern.


7 posted on 05/29/2011 10:19:03 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Suicide for nothing. There is no Glowbull Warming but it does no good to tell them that.


8 posted on 05/29/2011 10:21:33 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Global warming activists have been reported as being one of the planet's greater sources of hot air. Each year I think my opinion of the British government can't possibly sink any lower, and each year they prove me wrong.
9 posted on 05/29/2011 10:22:00 PM PDT by dog breath
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To: Mr. Mojo

Your point is so very true. They fret and hand wring over carbon which holds NO THREAT TO ANYONE, but gladly hand over the keys to the Jihadists.

UK lunacy.


10 posted on 05/29/2011 10:31:09 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Churchville, VA made the news? What next? Buffalo Gap?


11 posted on 05/29/2011 10:31:34 PM PDT by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: Hoodat; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; steelyourfaith; SunkenCiv
What next? Buffalo Gap?

Maybe Smithwick or Dewey, too.

The whole meat of this disgusting, destructive new religion is summed up by the Met Office's John Mitchell (and probably heartily endorsed by NASA's James Hanson): “People underestimate the power of models. Observational evidence is not very useful.” .

When evidence is discounted and discarded in favor of failed computer modeling "predictions", it is no longer science that is being practiced.

12 posted on 05/29/2011 10:45:02 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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To: ApplegateRanch
The science ceased a long time ago...
13 posted on 05/29/2011 10:51:59 PM PDT by DB
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

this would all be insane, even if AGW was real.

...but since the world has been getting COLDER since 2003
(and the leaked Hadley CRU emails prove they KNOW it,
when they discussed how to “hide the decline” in temperature)

insanity doesn’t even describe it.


14 posted on 05/29/2011 11:02:27 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: matt04; Tolerance Sucks Rocks
IIRC, the last nuclear plant built in the US cost around 6 billion, and that works with or without wind and sun.

Worth a reminder that the British Government is committed to building 10 new nuclear plants in the next decade - that's rather more than are planned in the US, the last I heard.

15 posted on 05/30/2011 1:23:27 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: ApplegateRanch; DollyCali; markomalley; Bockscar; Thunder90; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; Normandy; ...
Indeed. Climate computer models have been classic GIGO exercises.

Thanx for the ping ApplegateRanch !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

16 posted on 05/30/2011 3:00:41 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Wow, I missed that quote. That is stunning in its cluelessness and the anti-science mindset that it reveals. These people are really, really dangerous.


17 posted on 05/30/2011 3:07:20 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster
TREE HUG2
18 posted on 05/30/2011 3:58:19 AM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
(UK dooms itself)

Any hint of sunlight getting through the clouds would doom the UK.

19 posted on 05/30/2011 7:04:35 AM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Meanwhile China burns ~50% of the annual global coal production and will do NOTHING of that kind. They must be laughing their a$$es off in Beijing.


20 posted on 05/30/2011 7:34:12 AM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

“... Observational evidence is not very useful.” .
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great quote! any honest scientist, should be outraged!

and when the the observational data disagrees with the models, they simply change the data...

http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2010/11/04/hiding-the-decline-in-washington-dc/

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/01/climategate_cru_was_but_the_ti.html

“... stations have dropped from a peak of 1,850 in 1963 to a low of 136 as of 2007. ... including all the cold ones in California. “


21 posted on 05/30/2011 7:57:53 AM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Elendur
...but since the world has been getting COLDER since 2003 (and the leaked Hadley CRU emails prove they KNOW it, when they discussed how to “hide the decline” in temperature)

Hadley's "hide the decline" was actually an effort to make the Medieval Warm Period disappear, but there's no question that they've consistently faked and manipulated the data.

22 posted on 05/30/2011 8:00:44 AM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: matt04

“So they will spend at lest 3 BILLION dollars to build wind turbines, that will only work when it is windy, yet they can use natural gas at 1/15 of the cost.”

If the British people ever figure out how hoodwinked they’ve been, there’ll be hell to pay.


23 posted on 05/30/2011 12:01:21 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down!)
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To: Winniesboy

Well, thank goodness they’re doing SOMEthing right. They’re gonna need all that those new plants put out every time the wind stops blowing.


24 posted on 05/30/2011 5:50:27 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I hate politically correct sorosmonkey superheroes!)
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...a plan for 800 giant new wind turbines on mid-Wales hills. In the Welsh Parliament, Glyn Davies said "the two-megawatt turbines would cost at least [$2.7 billion, plus another $500 million] for the infrastructure." In contrast, a far bigger gas-fired power plant near Plymouth will produce power without subsidy at one fifteenth the cost -- and without disfiguring the Welsh hills.

25 posted on 05/30/2011 6:50:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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