Skip to comments.Will America Suffer the Fate of Rome?
Posted on 05/30/2011 7:21:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America." These words by Barack Obama echo through time. Have they been heard before, in another language, in another age?
I sense those who walk by the banks of the Potomac nowadays realize the politics of those who once walked by the banks of the Tiber. We share in our time, as the United States of America passes into something else, an experience shared by those who lived through the transformation of the Roman Republic into the Roman Empire.
Like a mighty river, the flow of politics creates a current that is irresistible. We may want to stop the flow but we can't. That feeling of struggling against the current, of swiming hard but getting nowhere, is what the man cast adrift feels before he is drowned by events."
Cicero dreams of Rome as she had been a hundred years earlier, before the structure had begun to give way under the strains of empire.
Granted, it would be too late to save the Republic now; three years later Caesar would cross the Rubicon. But even if, by some stroke of magic, Cicero's dream had come true, disaster would not have been averted. By the 50s huge problems had developed which could not be solved within the framework of what was, essentially a city-state.
First, an empire of such size and complexity could not be run by a small élite of all-around amateurs in which within a decade the same man might be expected to manage finances, administer city departments, sit as a judge, and lead a military campaign. The voting system was over-centralized and out-dated; citizens could no longer be expected to travel to the capitol for elections and other meetings of the assembly...
There were also intractable economic problems resulting from the decay of smallholdings owing to the absence of farmers on military service...All this led to the growth of a workless and resentful urban proletariat, which could easily be inflamed by demagogues.
That, in turn, contributed to the worse problem of all. Troops were recruited by promise of loot and land...(these troops) depended for their future, not on the Senate, but on the power of an ambitious general...There is an air of unreality about the Laws.
Little by little, the river of time floated the Republic into the Empire. Today, we look back and remember the insanity and debauchery of Caligula. We remember, too, Cicero for is writings and how he, according to Plutarch, "stretched out his neck to meet the murder's stroke."
Ner0 -—> Zer0.
Some would say we are way ahead of schedule.
He does seem more like a corrupted criminal Mayor than President of the USA.
Strike the illegal before immigration. We are being colonized by the Third World, which doesn't share the values of our Founders or the Constitution's vision of government. America will be lost thru the ballot box.
The U.S. adds one international migrant (net) every 36 seconds. Immigrants account for one in 8 U.S. residents, the highest level in more than 80 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. In a decade, it will be one in 7, the highest it has been in our history. And by 2050, one in 5 residents of the U.S. will be foreign-born.
On the surface, it appears that the globalization is driven by the demdn for goods and services. But that is well planned faux gremlin. In reality, globalization is driven by the lust for absolute power which the ultimately powerful, the bankers, desire. Globalization now is a repeat of the establishment of the FED way back when the most powerful men in the world met on Jekyl Island to plan the future of America, to reign it in from Independence. A small cadre of people more powerful than Georgie Sorass have globalization as their goal, the surrendering of national borders as protection from change. The hope barry bastard spoke of is the hope held in the plotting black hearts of these globalist designers. The change is the destruction of national sovereognties, just as the We The People sovereignty was surrenders piece by piece to the banking powerful.
Wow! Need more coffee to make my fingers and brain sinc up ... so many typos, so little time.
Yes. Fate of Rome, fate of Britain, fate of the several Chinas. The fate of us all. We all die.
The fall of America will be much worse than the fall of Rome.
1) When Rome fell, there was no organized successor waiting to take over so even as Rome died, Roman culture struggled to live on and eventually began to change (through Germanic influences) into today’s western civilization. Today, we have Islam waiting for us to destroy ourselves and then reboot our culture in their vision.
2) When Rome fell, the Catholic Church was there to preserve civilization during the Dark Ages. Today, our government attempts to insure the marginalization or outright destruction of Christianity as America rots and collapses. Again, Islam is waiting to step in when our government succeeds.
And leave what to our children, and their children?...
As the saying goes “If we don’t learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it.” It seems that our own leaders don’t realize that if we don’t bring our country back to what the people want, they will also fall, as will their families.
The fall of Rome began when they gave up the Republic. Sound familiar? One main difference is that Caesar left Rome, many times, to lead his army in battle. Even Roman Senators had to have served in the military. Today, we are lucky if any of them have served their country. Maybe it’s time to bring in someone like Allen West and turn this country around to what it was meant to be.
Another thing that killed Rome was immigrants and the idea of relying on other countries to supply them what they needed. Oil comes to mind here. I believe that one third of Romans, in the end, were immigrants and they turned on Rome and destroyed it, along with invaders. We are repeating history now......unless we are willing to bring back our countries values.
If immigration were drastically reduced soon, there would still be hope. But as there is no push to do so, even from our ‘conservative’ House of Representatives, I think we will soon pass the demographic point of no return.
We’d have nothing to fear from Islam if we didn’t allow Muslim immigration. Europe is in much worse shape in that regard.
The Left IS Decadence.
Western Civilization is decadent, and the U.S.A. is part of it.
Unless the American people come to their senses--and fast!--this Decadence will send the U.S. into a free-fall of economic, political, and social disaster, and a monster will seize control! There are many watching and waiting. Make no mistake.
There are monsters who are keeping a watchful eye--right now!--hoping to be the one to seize the falling nation--under the guise of saving it--but with the intent of setting himself (or herself) up as The New Caesar = The New Augustus = The New Caligula = The New Nero!
There always have been, but the time was not right. Now they see the opportunity presenting itself--as The Left leads America to the brink of her fall!
Rome went from Julius Caesar to Caligula in FOUR generations--and Augustus and Tiberius were monsters!
History's warnings are clear!
Will the American people wake up in time to same themselves--and their children?????
Those who spread the gospel of AGENDA 21 are clearly winning the battle for international control of land, water and people. I honestly don't think there will be a sovereign state of America in 50 years. The emotional swell that backs the ICLEI movement seems unstoppable.
But then there are the modern day versions—since they do reduce the population of the virtuous,value orientated citizen patriots who built America— of the Black Death called elective abortion,sterile sexual perversions and taxpayer support of shiftless entitlement junkies. Plus the barbarians in the form of illegal aliens are already infiltrating ALL our borders. Finally,the obvious analogy of a disconnected from the people,jaded,avarice and power addicted government that just can't give a damn until it is too late with the removal of their own heads at the hands of the savages they let in.
I guess the ongoing illegal/legal invasion isn't impressive enough for you. As for the plague, abortion might fit the bill.
This is the greatest sigle threat to the survival of the United States--
AFTER a corrupt and mendacious Newsmedia that has become a Propaganda Machine imposing the Decadence, i.e. The Left, on America and making Third World colonization, as well as other death blows, possible--and--
AFTER the stupidity and apathy of the millions of Americans who tolerate all this and are themselves fundamentally to blame.
WHEN? Will America Suffer the Fate of Rome? WHEN?
The Fall of America will be far worse than most people can even imagine!
The Fools who have brought it on will get what they deserve! But their children will not deserve what they get. They will curse their parents!
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