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The Washington Post produces a bigoted editorial against the publicís right to know
watts up with that? ^ | Anthony Watts

Posted on 05/30/2011 9:17:50 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

From JunkScience.com

WashPost: Freedom of Information Act not for skeptics’ use

by Steve Milloy

In a bizarre Memorial Day editorial, the Washington Post criticized climate skeptics for using the Freedom of Information Act to pry documents concerning Climategater Michael Mann from the University of Virginia.

The Post labeled the skeptics’ FOIA efforts as “harrassing” and “nuisance tactics.”

The Post, however, has been entirely silent on Greenpeace’s efforts to FOIA documents from the University of Virginia concerning Pat Michaels, University of Delaware concerning David Legates and from Harvard University concerning Willie Soon and Sallie Baliunas — efforts that are truly “harrassing” and “nuisance” in nature as Greenpeace acted entirely in retaliation to the FOIA request concerning Mann.

The editorial is especially gross coming on the day when America commemorates those who died to preserve everyone’s freedoms — not just those of the politically correct.

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And I’ll add the post has been entirely silent on the fact the George Mason University, when asked by USA Today reporter Dan Vergano to produce documents related to the whole vindictive DeepClimate (Dave Clarke) and John Mashey assault on Wegman and Said at GMU. Vergano asked for “expedited service” and requests that “fees be waived”.

Not only did GMU comply, they did so quickly, without complaint, waived fees, and provided everything on a USB flash drive they sent to USA Today’s Vergano.

That is the starkest contrast to the whining , wailing, and gnashing of teeth surrounding the FOIA requests for other universities like UEA and UVA . It vividly illustrates the elitism and bigotry of the organizations and the people who believe themselves to be above the law as well as the organizations who fan the flames by coming to their defense citing “academic freedom”. Bottom line – use of public money makes the process and results open to public scrutiny to all who request the information, no matter who they are. Don’t like the scrutiny? Then don’t take the public money.

Steve McIntyre writes:

The difference in how academic institutions have responded to the seemingly similar requests in respect to Wegman and Mann is quite startling. George Mason gave expedited service to a request for Wegman’s emails; the U of Virginia has done the opposite. George Mason turned over Wegman’s correspondence with an academic journal without litigation; the University of Virginia has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on litigation. Multiple academic lobby groups protested the production of Mann’s emails as a matter of principle; the same organizations were and remain silent in respect to Wegman.

What is doubly bizarre is that apparently this FOIA request has led to the discovery that Dr. Ray Bradley, Mann co-author with the hockey stick paper “MBH98″, apparently committed academic misconduct in his zeal to smear Wegman.

From Climate Audit:

…the README included by George Mason stated the “documents may not be forwarded to a third party”. It also included the GMU policy on academic misconduct, stating Bradley had violated the confidentiality terms – a point not reported by USA Today:

The materials in this USB are being provided in compliance with the Virginia FOIA. Many of the documents are published research papers that are copyrighted by their respective publishers. All other documents are copyrighted by Edward J. Wegman and Yasmin H. Said or by their respective authors. All rights are reserved. These documents may not be forwarded to a third party. Also included in this USB is the George Mason University policy document 4007 on academic misconduct. This policy requires confidentiality for all parties including complainants, in this case Professor Raymond Bradley. This confidentiality requirement was violated by Professor Bradley.

Also, last week, I sent an email to WaPo’s ombudsman, requesting space to rebut Bill McKibben’s senseless bloviation about tornadoes and climate change. No response.

In light of their non-acknowledgement of a similar process by Greenpeace using FOIA laws to get records on climate skeptics Michaels, Legates, Soon, and Baliunas, plus their non-acknowledgement of my request, WaPo’s editorial gist comes across like this:

One rule of use for AGW proponents, another for skeptics.

To me, it smacks of this sort of ugly thinking.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; media; msm; wapo; washingtonpost

1 posted on 05/30/2011 9:17:52 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: steelyourfaith

fyi


2 posted on 05/30/2011 9:25:10 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It's the Wishington (com-)Post....

Consider the source...

3 posted on 05/30/2011 9:29:47 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
As where well aware the cards have been stacked to always favor those that produce bad science, and those that report it.
Meanwhile it looks like there are record amounts of snow at some of the west's major resorts. CA, NV, WY, ID, to name four states where skiing will continue in some instances into July, in commercially operated ski areas.
Have a great upcoming day Ernest. Time for me to punch out. I have been spending a lot of time at the nasa.gov site following the Endeavor's mission for the past two weeks. Sort of nice, just viewing neat stuff without getting bombarded by a lot of bad news for the most part.

4 posted on 05/30/2011 9:32:33 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

The media has their Agenda.


5 posted on 05/30/2011 9:32:45 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Yes they do.....

Good catch... on your part

Thanks for posting

6 posted on 05/30/2011 9:35:38 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

BTTT!


7 posted on 05/30/2011 10:45:18 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
...the Washington Post criticized climate skeptics for using the Freedom of Information Act to pry documents concerning Climategater Michael Mann from the University of Virginia.

LOL. Liberalism in a nutshell.

Maybe it should be changed to a more appropriate name: The Freedom Of Information That Can Be Used To Embarrass, Destroy Or Otherwise Impugn Republicans, Conservatives And Other Non-Liberal Entities That Fail To Toe The Ruling Class Line Act.

8 posted on 05/30/2011 10:45:46 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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I now refer to this radical segment of US media as the Militant Media. It has a hardcore agenda with tentacles deeply penetrating most news operations throughout the States.
9 posted on 05/30/2011 10:54:15 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Great catch, thank you!


10 posted on 05/30/2011 10:54:41 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Tired of being seen as idiots, the American people went to the polls in 2008 and removed all doubt.)
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To: Texas Eagle

>> LOL. Liberalism in a nutshell.

This is far beyond Liberalism. It’s the precursor to Communism; radical Leftism.


11 posted on 05/30/2011 10:56:16 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Actually, I think the “media has their ORDERS.”


12 posted on 05/30/2011 10:58:30 PM PDT by goodnesswins (...both islam and the democrat plantation thrive on poverty)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Isn’t Mr. Mann’s highly suspect “work” being funded by the taxpayers? And aren’t fudged data typified by his famous Hockey stick effect being used to justify EPA regulations and legislation like cap and trade to create shortages of fossil fuels that will cause energy costs to “necessarily skyrocket”?

Damn right the public has a right to see that data. The “climate change” fraud should never have been publicly funded in the first place, but now that it has, that climate data belongs to the government, and the government belongs to the taxpayer.


13 posted on 05/31/2011 12:22:00 AM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: Gene Eric

40 years late determining that we are in an information war.


14 posted on 05/31/2011 1:03:30 AM PDT by Eldon Tyrell
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; ex-Texan

If the leftist media elites have their way only their warped un-American view point will be allowed in America. Obama would relish it!


15 posted on 05/31/2011 1:37:21 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never 'free'.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Why would anyone be surprised about this? SOP for the media. Ethical journalism is long dead. Old journalism “if it bleeds, it leads”. New journalism “if it’s leftist, it leads”.


16 posted on 05/31/2011 3:51:15 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
UNEXPECTED! Hah!
17 posted on 05/31/2011 2:50:24 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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18 posted on 06/01/2011 1:25:03 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I hate politically correct sorosmonkey superheroes!)
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To: All

flak, target...


19 posted on 06/01/2011 1:29:47 PM PDT by Maverick68
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The Post labeled the skeptics’ FOIA efforts as “harrassing” and “nuisance tactics.”

Which even if true, never seems to be a problem when liberals do it, so.....

20 posted on 06/01/2011 2:34:45 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It doesn't matter how beautiful the guess is, or how smart the guesser is, or how famous the guesser is; if the experiment disagrees with the guess, then the guess is wrong. That's all there is to it. - physicist Richard Feynman

The Washington Post is often impressed with how 'famous the guesser is'...

21 posted on 06/01/2011 3:41:49 PM PDT by GOPJ (youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c www.citizenwarrior.com/2009/05/terrifying-brilliance-of-islam.html)
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To: GOPJ; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Oh, how quaintly outdated physicist Richard Feynman is!

The British Met Office's John Mitchell: “People underestimate the power of models. Observational evidence is not very useful.”

Global Warming News From The Brits (UK dooms itself)

If the experiment disagrees with the guess, the experiment is wrong; change the data!

22 posted on 06/01/2011 6:13:55 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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