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China Among Indian Air Force Concerns
Aerospace Daily and Defense Report ^ | May 31, 2011

Posted on 05/31/2011 8:34:32 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

China Among Indian Air Force Concerns

May 31, 2011

By Asia-Pacific Staff

NEW DELHI — The Indian Air Force (IAF) has long had big ambitions, and the pending arrival of a new service chief with a broad agenda indicates there will be no easing up in efforts to improve the breadth of the service’s capabilities.

The first major restructuring of the IAF’s order of battle, a revival of border air bases to counter Chinese air force deployments and quick acquisitions of weapons and systems to plug capability gaps will be the operational priorities of the IAF’s next chief, Air Marshal Norman Browne, who takes office at the end of July.

The flow of foreign hardware into India will be substantial during the new chief’s time in office. Browne’s tenure as IAF chief also stands to see the signing of tens of billions of dollars in contracts.

The key program Browne will have to shepherd through is the $12 billion Medium Multirole Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) fighter jet contest. It is fitting since, as deputy IAF chief from 2007-2009, Browne played a central role in navigating the MMRCA teams through the process.

Moreover, his time at the helm also will see the government sign deals for 10 or more Boeing C-17 heavy transports, six new-generation tanker transports (the Airbus Military A330 and Ilyushin Il-78 are in the running), 22 attack helicopters, 12 heavy-lift helicopters and nearly 200 basic trainer aircraft. He also will be under pressure to ensure the smooth induction of several large, network-centric systems into the core of how the IAF operates.

The IAF also is likely to mark several milestones under Browne, including the entry of the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) into full operational service, and the certification of India’s indigenous Airborne Early Warning & Control platform.

An IAF officer who has worked closely with Browne says: “His other key commitments will include giving shape to how the Indian [Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft] and AMCA [unmanned combat aircraft] will turn out, and getting the LCA Tejas to full operational status in the shortest possible time.” The officer warns local industry that “HAL is going to find it has an unusually tough customer” in Browne.

With 3,100 hr. on aircraft that include the MiG-21, Su-30 and Jaguar, the officer strongly believes it is imperative for the IAF to diversify its equipment sources and ramp up its self-reliance.

Israel, which has emerged as one of India’s biggest suppliers of weapons and equipment in the last seven years, is a country that Browne knows well — he established India’s defense wing in Tel Aviv in April 1997, serving as defense attache there until July 2000.

Browne also will oversee substantial changes in asset deployments to give the IAF greater reach and faster response to perceived external threats.

Last October, Browne said the IAF would consider basing detachments of new-generation fighters at its high-altitude border bases, including Su-30MKIs.

Under Browne, the IAF also will raise its first fighter squadrons in India’s southern peninsula, including some of the aircraft acquired in the MMRCA competition, to provide security to India’s island territories and sea lanes.

Parity with the Pakistan Air Force, and to a much larger extent China’s air force, will be a major preoccupation for the new chief in the face of dwindling aircraft numbers. While a recent report by India’s tri-service Integrated Defense Staff warned that IAF-PAF force parities were at an all-time low, Browne is more sanguine about the trend. He has previously noted that “the asymmetry between the capabilities of both air forces was a certain amount in the past. That has somewhat [been] reduced now. The PAF is going in for a fast-track induction of beyond visual range air-to-air missiles and precision-guided munitions. These are things that actually tend to reduce the gap. But they won’t catch us up.”

TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; china; iaf; india

1 posted on 05/31/2011 8:34:34 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Many on FR would be surprised to know a name like “Norman Browne” can actually be Indian and is the Chief of IAF.

2 posted on 05/31/2011 8:44:15 AM PDT by ravager
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To: sukhoi-30mki
I think his greatest challenge is to get past the Indian bureaucracy and speed up the modernization process before China and Pakistan go too far ahead.
3 posted on 05/31/2011 8:52:55 AM PDT by ravager
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To: ravager
"Many on FR would be surprised to know a name like “Norman Browne” can actually be Indian and is the Chief of IAF."

That was what struck me the most in the article. When I read his name I had to go back in the article and make sure we were talking about the Indian Air Force. I guess his name is a leftover remnant from the bygone era of British colonialism.
4 posted on 05/31/2011 9:02:52 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
Published 06.09.04

Lieutenant General J.F.R. Jacob.

"India finds Israel to be a friend on which it can rely."

The Jewish general who beat Pakistan

By Amnon Barzilai

“A victory by the Congress Party under the leadership of Sonia Ghandi in the elections to be held in India in May will not lead to any change in India's policy toward Israel. The good relations will continue, and in certain area even grow deeper,” assesses Lieutenant General J.F.R. Jacob, a former senior Indian army officer and a Jew, who yesterday completed a five-day visit to Israel. “If I had to rank the present-day level of relations between India and Israel,” Jacob adds, “I would give them a 9 out of 10.”

General Jacob has close ties to the National Party (BJP), which in the course of its four years in power has tightened relations with Israel and expanded defense cooperation with it. For many years, Jacob served as the party's security adviser. Nevertheless, he says, “based on my personal acquaintanceship with the current foreign minister, I see that the Congress Party, like the National Party, has an interest in maintaining very good relations with Israel.” Jacob notes that it was the Congress Party that in early 1992 established diplomatic relations with Israel, “and since then, every Indian government has found Israel to be a friend on which they can rely.”

Jacob doesn't think much of the consequences of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict on public opinion in India. Although India is the largest democracy in the world, he says, “you have to remember that over 70 percent of Indian society is an agricultural population, which cares about its everyday struggles for existence and survival, and is not interested in foreign affairs.”

General Jacob gained prominent fame in his homeland when he headed the Indian army forces that vanquished the Pakistani army in the war that broke out between the two countries in 1971, over control of the Bangladesh region (which after the war became an independent state, having formerly been East Pakistan). For his decisive role in the sweeping victory, Jacob was granted a commendation of merit.

Jacob is proud to say that his illustrious military career is the indelible proof of the tolerance of Indian society. That is the only way to explain how he succeeded as a young Jew, the scion of a family that migrated some 150 years ago from Iraq and settled in Calcutta, to be appointed to one of the most senior command positions in the army.

His full name is Jacob-Farj-Rafael Jacob. He was born in 1923. At age nine, his father, a successful businessman, sent him to a boarding school in the city of Darjeeling, about 500 kilometers from Calcutta. From then on, he only went home on school holidays. In 1941, at age 18, he enlisted in the Indian army, which was under British command. “My father was against my enlistment,” he recalls, “but after I found out about the atrocities of the Nazis and their treatment of the Jews, I decided that I would be a military man.” Upon his enlistment, Jacob joined an artillery brigade that was dispatched to North Africa to reinforce the British army against the German army under Field Marshal Erwin Rommel. The brigade arrived after the battles were over. From there, Jacob's unit was sent to Burma. “I wanted to fight Germans,” says Jacob, “but in the end I fought for three years against the Japanese.”

Did you ever meet Orde Wingate?

Jacob: “I was a major in the artillery when I met him in Burma. I know what your opinion of Wingate is, and on his contribution to training special forces in Palestine [the reference is to the Haganah’s Special Night Squads - A.B.], but I have a different opinion of him as a commander. In Burma, he was assigned a post that he could not fill [sabotage of communications behind the Japanese army lines - A.B.] His military perception was mistaken. He was a disaster. I prefer not to say any more than that.”

Pilgrimage site

General Jacob is a graduate of artillery schools in England and the United States and specialized in advanced artillery and missiles. Prior to his appointment as commander of the Eastern Command (along the Bangladesh front), he commanded an infantry and artillery division. He retired from the military in 1978, following 37 years of service. Jacob tried his hand in the business world, but remained in close contact with government echelons. In the late `90s, he became the governor of the Goa province, and subsequently became the governor of the state of Punjab, which borders Kashmir.

Since the establishment of diplomatic relations between India and Israel, Jacob has paid many visits to Israel. Prime minister Yitzhak Rabin invited him to attend the Jerusalem 3,000 celebrations. On his recent visit here, he even contributed items of Judaica from his parent's home to the Museum of Babylonian Jewry in Or Yehuda. His home in New Delhi has for years been a pilgrimage site for Israeli diplomats, researchers and security officers.

Why is India interested in Israeli military technology?

“Because Israel's know-how and technology are very advanced. But also because countries like the United States and England are not as generous as Israel. Since the establishment of diplomatic relations, Israel has proved that it is happy to work together with India.”

This is a big change, compared with the way things were before relations were established between the two countries.

“Actually, there is a long history to what is now happening. As early as 1962, during the war between India and China, prime minister Nehru appealed to prime minister David Ben-Gurion, asking him for military aid. Already then, Israel sent military equipment, mainly 120 mm. mortar rounds. It happened again in the war against Pakistan in 1965 and in the war in 1971: Israel supplied India with mortar rounds, even 160 mm. rounds. And Israel once again proved its generosity in the military conflict with Pakistan in 1999; on that occasion, it also assisted in supplying ammunition, even bombs meant for the Mirage jets of the Indian air force.”

How do you see the development of defense cooperation between India and Israel?

“The primary collaboration lies in the shared interest of both countries related to the war on terror, and everything that entails: Electronic fences, radar systems, sensors. Israel also assists with missiles. There is cooperative development and production of helicopters. And of course, the Phalcon surveillance aircraft; they are intended for early warning of a surprise attack by Pakistan or China.”

India has also shown interest in purchasing Arrow missiles.

“I estimate that when the United States removes the obstacles, India will be highly interested in acquiring Arrow missiles for defense against ballistic missiles. We need them especially for protection against Pakistan.”

In the wake of the talks now being held between leaders of the two countries, aren't relations between India and Pakistan better?

“India has been attacked several times by Pakistan. We cannot take risks, and be unprepared for a surprise attack. India should be prepared for both Pakistan and China. Therefore, there is a need for anti-missile missiles. Due to the Pakistani danger and the threat of launch of missiles with nuclear warheads. And it is important to mention: We don't want U.S.-made Patriot missiles, which are only capable of intercepting missiles at a low altitude of 20 kilometers [as opposed to the Arrow, which is designed to intercept missiles at an altitude of 100 kilometers or more - A.B.].”

Al-Qaida in Kashmir

In spite of the differences in size between India and Israel, there is a similarity in their geopolitical status. Both are surrounded by Muslim states, they have large Muslim minorities, and are threatened by Islamic terror. “India has no problem with Muslim countries,” says Jacob. “It only has a problem with terror. And the trouble is that Pakistan has become an asylum for terror groups. The bin Laden people are active in Kashmir and we suspect that his people are active not only in Afghanistan but also in Pakistan. [Pakistani President] Musharraf claims Pakistan does not support terror, but it is turning out that it does not have the ability, or the means, to supervise the terror groups. And I don't know what the truth is.

“In spite of everything, I say that a nuclear war between India and Pakistan is not expected because the two countries cannot afford such a thing. Basically, there is a balance of terror between the two.”

Israelis in Goa? They don't help, they don't hurt

In his post as governor of Goa toward the end of the `90s, General Jacob had an opportunity to get to know other sides of the Israeli character. “I had a chance to meet with Israelis in Goa. These young people came there after lengthy army service, without money. All that they want is to live cheap, on the beach.”

Were there any problems with them?

“Some of the Israelis are involved in drug dealing, but this is a small percentage. I can say the Israelis do not cause any real damage. But at the same time, their contribution to Indian tourism is insignificant because they do not spend money, since they do not have any.

“I would like to see Israelis coming not only to Goa or Puna, but to get to know the country, to learn its culture. At the same time, I understand them. They arrive in India immediately after army service. They want to have fun and to enjoy life and that's okay, too. I don't have any problem with it.” (A.B.)

5 posted on 05/31/2011 10:02:47 AM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: ravager

6 posted on 05/31/2011 3:08:23 PM PDT by BBell
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To: ravager

Re: Many on FR would be surprised to know a name like “Norman Browne” can actually be Indian and is the Chief of IAF.

I think many in FR would also be stunted to know that in any board anywhere as long as it comes attached with the word [China-Chinese] in it that Indians make up a good proportion of the registered members of those boards. A strange phenomenon and a one way love affair that Indians seems to have with all things Chinese.

7 posted on 05/31/2011 7:54:33 PM PDT by EdisonOne (
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What do you mean by “stunted” to know?

As far as this article is concerned (except for the headlines), it actually has less to do with China-Chinese and more to do with India. And I don't know if all one way love affair, since you happen to show up.

8 posted on 05/31/2011 11:52:29 PM PDT by ravager
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To: EdisonOne
A strange phenomenon and a one way love affair that Indians seems to have with all things Chinese.

You're kidding, right?

9 posted on 06/01/2011 3:41:54 AM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: James C. Bennett; ravager

The funny thing is that a lot of closet Chicoms keep coming on to any thread related to India!!

10 posted on 06/01/2011 7:57:55 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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