Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

St. Petersburg councilman wants to ban assault rifles in city, urges state and US to follow
WFTS (Tampa, Fla.) ^ | 05/30/2011 | Don Germaise

Posted on 05/31/2011 11:39:12 AM PDT by neverdem

Will seek weapons ban at city council meeting

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. - There is no room for assault rifles in St. Petersburg, city council member Steve Kornell said. He wants the semi-automatic and automatic weapons banned.

Kornell will ask fellow city council members at a meeting this week to ban assault weapons in the city. Kornell also wants a resolution asking the state and federal government to follow suit. "I think it's an issue whose time has come," said Kornell. "I think most people get why you can't have military assault weapons."

The proposal comes after three St. Petersburg police officers have been shot dead this year, none with an assault weapon. However in 2009, eight-year-old Paris Whitehead-Hamilton was accidentally killed when her home was sprayed with more than 50 rounds from assault weapons. Police say the gunmen were after someone else in the home.

"I believe in the Constitution and this is not about taking away anybody's rights," said Kornell. "But people do not have a right to own a personal military assault weapon."

St. Petersburg Police Chief Chuck Harmon agrees. "Assault rifles are meant basically to kill human beings," said Harmon. "There are no other uses for them."

Gun owners like Earl Rhodes agree with the chief, but still want to own assault weapons. "If I'm in a situation where I need to protect my family, I don't want a single shot shotgun when I can have an assault weapon to do it with," said Rhodes. Rhodes owns two SKS assault rifles.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: awb; banglist; donttreadonme; fl; florida; guncontrol; shallnotbeinfringed
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-83 next last

1 posted on 05/31/2011 11:39:12 AM PDT by neverdem
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Every rifle is an ‘assault’ rifle....................


2 posted on 05/31/2011 11:40:40 AM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said there is no marriage in Heaven. That's why they call it Heaven............)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Ignorance is eternal.


3 posted on 05/31/2011 11:40:59 AM PDT by Republican Extremist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Another libturd gun grabbing waste of $5 worth of chemicals speaks. STFU.


4 posted on 05/31/2011 11:41:45 AM PDT by NWFLConservative (Game On.......Fight Like a Girl!!...............Saracuda in 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
Gun owners like Earl Rhodes agree with the chief, but still want to own assault weapons.

Huh???

5 posted on 05/31/2011 11:42:03 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

when is someone going to remove the ban on fully automatic weapons? Why am I denied this right?


6 posted on 05/31/2011 11:42:06 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

None of the buffoons in the article have a clue what an “aasault weapon” is.
This is typical liberal scumbaggery. Three St. Pete cops are killed, though none with the dreaded “assault weapon” therefore lets ban ‘em.


7 posted on 05/31/2011 11:42:20 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

8 posted on 05/31/2011 11:42:46 AM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said there is no marriage in Heaven. That's why they call it Heaven............)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republican Extremist
So, St. Petersburg's got politicians who couldn't protect 8 year old Paris Whitehead-Hamilton imagining that they can protect the whole city.

I wouldn't be listening to any of these pukes about personal safety.

9 posted on 05/31/2011 11:42:49 AM PDT by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
St. Petersburg Police Chief Chuck Harmon agrees. “Assault rifles are meant basically to kill human beings,” said Harmon. “There are no other uses for them.”

DUH! I'm glad the news quoted a man after him who thinks they are good for self defense.

10 posted on 05/31/2011 11:42:58 AM PDT by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
"But people do not have a right to own a personal military assault weapon."

Actually it's both a Right and a Duty to own one.

11 posted on 05/31/2011 11:43:06 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republican Extremist

Amazing. Walking, talking Human Bodies with no Brain. They should be sent to the Lab for studies.


12 posted on 05/31/2011 11:43:21 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Kornell needs to be emailed the text of the second amendment.


13 posted on 05/31/2011 11:43:35 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Steve, may I respectfully suggest you actually walk a beat in the projects before you shoot your mouth off?


14 posted on 05/31/2011 11:44:17 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (HM2/USN M/3/3 Marines RVN 66-67)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
St. Petersburg Police Chief Chuck Harmon agrees. "Assault rifles are meant basically to kill human beings," said Harmon. "There are no other uses for them."

Well, other than humans, politicians come to mind.

15 posted on 05/31/2011 11:44:45 AM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
"I believe in the Constitution and this is not about taking away anybody's rights," said Kornell. "But people do not have a right to own a personal military assault weapon."

Sez who? Who died and put you in charge of what people can and cannot own, a$$hole? The second Amendment makes no such distinctions. If you had ever read it, which I am sure you have not, you would know that. Now slither back under your rock you slimy little worm.
16 posted on 05/31/2011 11:45:21 AM PDT by NWFLConservative (Game On.......Fight Like a Girl!!...............Saracuda in 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

17 posted on 05/31/2011 11:46:28 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Florida has already pre-empted this type of nonsense.

city counsels that push this type of nonsense which is already precluded based on the notion of “we can do anything as long as there is no court order” should be removed from office immediatly and their votes void as a matter of law.


18 posted on 05/31/2011 11:47:25 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
What can the public militia arm themselves with, 22 caliber rim fire? The Second Amendment provides that public may be armed and well as the government. This is the reasoning behind “Shall not be infringed.”
19 posted on 05/31/2011 11:48:09 AM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NWFLConservative
"But people do not have a right to own a personal military assault weapon."

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

The purpose of the 2nd Amendment is to give people "a right to own a personal military assault weapon" because the people are the militia.

20 posted on 05/31/2011 11:49:30 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

You can bet that the Scientologists in St. Pete WILL be allowed to keep their assault weapons. There is a lot of them there in politics, and of course, in Clearwater.


21 posted on 05/31/2011 11:49:43 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

They smell an obama victory, and want to lay the ground work of a weapons ban. Though this is really close to the election cycle for this kind of thing.


22 posted on 05/31/2011 11:50:35 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: longtermmemmory

Florida firearms laws are clear. State law for carry and ownership supersede any municipality. Comments,FL freepers?


23 posted on 05/31/2011 11:50:56 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
In Pittsburgh we have a word for guys like Steve Kornell....


24 posted on 05/31/2011 11:52:39 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (One of these days, Alice....one of these days.....POW!! Right in the kisser!!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
"I believe in the Constitution and this is not about taking away anybody's rights," said Kornell King George III. "But people subjects do not have a right to own a personal military assault weapon."

There. What's the difference?

25 posted on 05/31/2011 11:53:00 AM PDT by Gritty (When you replace "law" with "regulation," equality before it is one of the first casualties-Mk Steyn)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah

I’m going to have to get me one of the Glock & Wessons.


26 posted on 05/31/2011 11:53:12 AM PDT by Ham Hock
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
Gun owners like Earl Rhodes agree with the chief, but still want to own assault weapons. "If I'm in a situation where I need to protect my family, I don't want a single shot shotgun when I can have an assault weapon to do it with," said Rhodes. Rhodes owns two SKS assault rifles.

Ummm....

27 posted on 05/31/2011 11:54:38 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All
florida statute 790.33 Field of regulation of firearms and ammunition preempted.—(1) PREEMPTION.—Except as expressly provided by general law, the Legislature hereby declares that it is occupying the whole field of regulation of firearms and ammunition, including the purchase, sale, transfer, taxation, manufacture, ownership, possession, and transportation thereof, to the exclusion of all existing and future county, city, town, or municipal ordinances or regulations relating thereto. Any such existing ordinances are hereby declared null and void. This subsection shall not affect zoning ordinances which encompass firearms businesses along with other businesses. Zoning ordinances which are designed for the purpose of restricting or prohibiting the sale, purchase, transfer, or manufacture of firearms or ammunition as a method of regulating firearms or ammunition are in conflict with this subsection and are prohibited. (2) LIMITED EXCEPTION; COUNTY WAITING-PERIOD ORDINANCES.— ----snip as exceprt----- (3) POLICY AND INTENT.— (a) It is the intent of this section to provide uniform firearms laws in the state; to declare all ordinances and regulations null and void which have been enacted by any jurisdictions other than state and federal, which regulate firearms, ammunition, or components thereof; to prohibit the enactment of any future ordinances or regulations relating to firearms, ammunition, or components thereof unless specifically authorized by this section or general law; and to require local jurisdictions to enforce state firearms laws. (b) As created by chapter 87-23, Laws of Florida, this section shall be known and may be cited as the “Joe Carlucci Uniform Firearms Act.”
28 posted on 05/31/2011 11:55:03 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Criminals of course are exempt from this proposal and can rest easy that their profession will remain unaffected.


29 posted on 05/31/2011 11:55:08 AM PDT by SpaceBar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #30 Removed by Moderator

To: Travis McGee; Joe Brower; OXENinFLA
BANG! Reviving the so-called "assault" weapon meme in the battleground state of Florida, the state that kicked off shall issue, concealed carry privileges over two decades ago? This makes no sense, especially considering their tactics when they controlled the Congress. I smell desperation.
31 posted on 05/31/2011 11:56:51 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All
repost with paragraphs:

florida statute 790.33 Field of regulation of firearms and ammunition preempted.—

(1) PREEMPTION.—Except as expressly provided by general law, the Legislature hereby declares that it is occupying the whole field of regulation of firearms and ammunition, including the purchase, sale, transfer, taxation, manufacture, ownership, possession, and transportation thereof, to the exclusion of all existing and future county, city, town, or municipal ordinances or regulations relating thereto. Any such existing ordinances are hereby declared null and void. This subsection shall not affect zoning ordinances which encompass firearms businesses along with other businesses. Zoning ordinances which are designed for the purpose of restricting or prohibiting the sale, purchase, transfer, or manufacture of firearms or ammunition as a method of regulating firearms or ammunition are in conflict with this subsection and are prohibited.

(2) LIMITED EXCEPTION; COUNTY WAITING-PERIOD ORDINANCES.

— ----snip as exceprt-----

(3) POLICY AND INTENT.—

(a) It is the intent of this section to provide uniform firearms laws in the state; to declare all ordinances and regulations null and void which have been enacted by any jurisdictions other than state and federal, which regulate firearms, ammunition, or components thereof; to prohibit the enactment of any future ordinances or regulations relating to firearms, ammunition, or components thereof unless specifically authorized by this section or general law; and to require local jurisdictions to enforce state firearms laws.

(b) As created by chapter 87-23, Laws of Florida, this section shall be known and may be cited as the “Joe Carlucci Uniform Firearms Act.”
32 posted on 05/31/2011 11:57:56 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: joe fonebone

Last week, I did a bunch of legwork research, asking Class 3 folks about full auto and silencers. What a gigantic pain it is to get these things!!!


33 posted on 05/31/2011 11:58:05 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Let this chant follow BHO everywhere he goes: "You lie. You lie. You lie.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: E. Pluribus Unum
The purpose of the 2nd Amendment is to give people "a right to own a personal military assault weapon" because the people are the militia.

2A "gives" nothing. It recognizes something that already existed.

34 posted on 05/31/2011 11:58:30 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: MileHi

if passed this ordinance is void as a matter of law.

see post 32


35 posted on 05/31/2011 11:59:32 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
I own both a country and a city assault rifle. The city one is especially evil.
36 posted on 05/31/2011 12:00:10 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

I think when they take them away from out-of-control SWAT thugs first they can think about banning them for the rest of the population.


37 posted on 05/31/2011 12:02:24 PM PDT by thethirddegree
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: longtermmemmory

Good. Thanks


38 posted on 05/31/2011 12:02:43 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: SoldierDad

He agrees that assault weapons are effective defense weapons.


39 posted on 05/31/2011 12:02:57 PM PDT by Cboldt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
The resemblance is remarkable........with my sincere apologies to Ray Bolger, who was actually a very intelligent and talented man

Photobucket
40 posted on 05/31/2011 12:06:04 PM PDT by NWFLConservative (Game On.......Fight Like a Girl!!...............Saracuda in 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem; longtermmemmory; JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; ...
Like the compulsive control-freaks they are, the lefties running the Sunshine State's cities can't help themselves from regurgitating these sorts of municipal bans, fully knowing they are preempted by state law (see FReeper longtermmemmory's post #32).

As usual: Scratch a liberal, find a fascist.


41 posted on 05/31/2011 12:07:28 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
St. Petersburg Police Chief [Political Appointee] Chuck Harmon agrees.
42 posted on 05/31/2011 12:09:30 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republican Extremist

There is an infinite supply of ignorance, although some people are doing their best to use it all up.


43 posted on 05/31/2011 12:10:58 PM PDT by Cheburashka (Democratic Underground: The Hogwarts of stupid.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: redgolum
They smell an obama victory, and want to lay the ground work of a weapons ban. Though this is really close to the election cycle for this kind of thing.

I disagree 100 %, especially when Gun Walker is likely to blow up in their face during next year or sooner. Please see comment# 31. If I had to bet money, they have polls showing that Daffy Duck can beat Obama.

44 posted on 05/31/2011 12:17:48 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Cheburashka

if a councilman is this stupid about the law, why i he on the city council? who is profiting financially? me thinks I smell a real estate agent.


45 posted on 05/31/2011 12:17:53 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
"... However in 2009, eight-year-old Paris Whitehead-Hamilton was accidentally killed when her home was sprayed with more than 50 rounds from assault weapons. Police say the gunmen were after someone else in the home."

Perhaps it was any one of the guest book signers at Paris' obituary site:

January 15, 2011 happy bday paris i miss u so much paris just cuz u not here on earth wit us u wit god we still celebrate yo life much love paris ~ whitley thomas,

PARIS IM MISS U SO MUCH I WISH THaT YUO WAS STILL HERE WITH ME TO EXPERIENCE ALL THE STUFF THAT IM DOIN RIGHT NOW BUT U IS IN A BETTER PALCE LOVE YOU SO MUCH YOU ALWAYS BE ON MY MINE .PS ALIYAH ~ ALIYAH HOPKINS

Look America: We know who's getting shot and who is doing the shooting in the vast majority of unjustified firearms-related homicides. We get that, and it's understood that society has been conditioned to dare not speak it.

What legislators don't get is that banning so-called "Assault Weapons" isn't going to stop murders any more than taking away Facebook and Internet-enabled mobile phones is going to stop riotous and larcenous "flash mobs" or violent holiday weekend gatherings of urban youths --- and I remind you that this article was posted in Tampa Florida newspaper that evidently had just that kind of problem this last Memorial Day weekend.

The fact is that this sort of violence is functionally and fundamentally endemic to that particular societal subculture. America is conditioned to ignore this behavior in the same way that society has been conditioned not to distinguish the perpetrators.

Proof of this concept is shown when a murderous incident is perpetrated by someone who is *not* a member of that particular subculture (e.g. Gerald Loughner) and then it becomes 'news' because it's so unusual. Meanwhile, an incident of inner city violent crime can take place where just as many people die as did in the Arizona shooting, yet it barely makes national news -- and surely Nancy Grace or Rachel Maddow or Ed Schultz or Dr. Phil won't be devoting any air time to it.

For years I've been calling for The Brady Campaign or the Violence Policy Center to publish yearly a giant 'yearbook style' coffee table book containing pictures (or mug shots when available) of every single person in America who is killed in a firearms-related homicide, and maybe a line or two about how they met their fate. Let's not just be content with the gun control crowd's abstract figure of those who die from guns each year because the American people are too conditioned to ignore numbers; if Americans don't care about a $14,000,000,000,000 debt ceiling, they sure aren't going to think very much of some comparatively measly number like 12,000 people dying to gunfire each year.

I challenge the gun control proponents to produce a book like that, to let us all take a look at who's getting shot to death in America each year. I know that they wouldn't dare. Too much of a risk in having the overwhelming majority of Americans read the book and come to the conclusion that: 1) "I'm seeing a trend here...", and 2) "Almost all of these people look like someone who I'd expect to get shot to death", and 3) "Damn, I better go get a gun of my own to protect my family if there are hundreds of thousands of violent criminals like this walking the streets."

46 posted on 05/31/2011 12:27:33 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Is this from the 1970s?


47 posted on 05/31/2011 12:36:07 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Tough enough to have survived the end of the world)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
Florida Law allows the ownership of legally registered machine guns, silencers, short-barreled rifles/shotguns. I think I'll skip the assualt rifle and just mount an M-2 on the Willys. ( Don't I wish this was in my driveway)

48 posted on 05/31/2011 12:40:32 PM PDT by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Leningrad or Florida?


49 posted on 05/31/2011 12:41:45 PM PDT by colonialhk (Elect Veterans not Lawyers)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

“Gun owners like Rhodes...” SURPRISE!!!! The media found a gun owning leftist who wants to take YOUR weapons, but keep his OWN!!!!!


50 posted on 05/31/2011 12:41:59 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-83 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson