Skip to comments.Vanity: ATF stopped transfer of gun -- store manager says no transfer between states due to new law?
Posted on 05/31/2011 4:10:58 PM PDT by HGSW0904
This is a vanity post, and I'm hoping I put it in the right place...if not, I'm sure y'all will redirect me. (I'm hoping any redirection is kind.)
My husband ordered an R-25 from Dick's months ago (February) and has been playing phone tag with them since. They said they ordered it and that it was on its way. Today, he called again and spoke to the manager since he still hadn't heard anything. The manager said they couldn't transfer any gun from CO (that's where they had one in stock and we're in TN) because the ATF came in and stopped the transfer -- there's some new law and they are not sure how the new law will work. Dick's is shutting down their gun sales because it's too hard to get weapons in -- even in-state transfers. And, because they don't sell handguns, they can't legally sell handgun ammo anymore.
Is this manager full of it, or have you all heard anything about anything like it?
I prefer to attack people with fireworks.
Sounds like they are full of it. Get a refund.
Huh? I can buy all sorts of ammo at Wally World and they quit selling guns. First I've heard about this.
I once had a few firearms but they were all lost in a tragic corn harvesting accident.
Hogwash. I just received a pistol shipped from a dealer in AZ to a dealer in CA and if I can get it here, it can be had just about anywhere.
Get a refund and call a different store.
Thanks. It sounded crazy to me, but with the way things are going these days, thought it best to check.
dicks has a strict anti “assault rifle” company policy.
they were taking heat for selling the R25 which is just an AR10, a freefloat tube,and a camo job with some nice marketing.
ask them how much .22 and 7.62x39 they sell as they are both listed by the ATF as handgun rounds.
Colorado is now a deep dark blue. With that in mind I am sure the gun grabbers are also in power.
Correct, no FFL is required to sell ammunition. A FFL is required to manufacture ammo, but not to sell.
sorry correction for the purists.. its not an AR10, its a LR308 which is DPMS’s version of the AR10 - but still, its a .308/243/etc AR
Husband found a local shop with a slew of AR 10’s in stock. He’s going to head there tomorrow and take a look.
Dick’s has gone PC.
Around here they stopped selling all pistols and pistol ammo and have cut back all their long gun selections and ammo.
The last time I went in to our local Dick’s store all they had were shoes and all the tame sporting goods. Their “outdoor” stuff consists mostly of a small selection of camping gear.
ATF had already taken a deposit from a buyer in mexico.
A FFL is required to manufacture ammo.
Are you thinking about the excise tax?
I’m pretty sure the guy your husband talked to is on crack, or maybe just an anti-gunner trying to kill one purchase and make a hard time for one gun guy.
You cannot transfer from an FFL to a NON-FFL across state lines. But so what? Obviously Dick’s is a FFL in TN or they never would have sold a single gun in your state, and the transfer from Dick’s to your husband has both parties in TN. He may just be an idiot confusing rules on “transfers” (sales) to end customers with stock transfers between locations. How does he think most dealers get their stock in the first place? Obviously from out-of-state mfgrs or wholesalers.
The only new “law” concerns purchases of multiple long guns within a five day period, isn’t in force yet, and I believe will only affect border states if it does become effective.
OTOH, even if you could force the issue, do you really want to reward a company that is either this incompetent or this anti-rights, or both, when there are perfectly good independent retailers in your town?
“Colorado is now a deep dark blue. With that in mind I am sure the gun grabbers are also in power.”
Actually, the carry laws are pretty good here (passed about 10 years ago when R’s ran things). I have several gun stores in easy driving distance. Lots of gun shows. But the rats have been more concerned about making sure public employee unions can continue to fund rats to be very concerned about guns. It’s a losing issue for them here.
The manager is full of it. There exists no such law.
Dick’s has started to live up to it’s name over the past couple of years. Many of my customers have had some real WTF style complaints about them. But for me, it’s all good as it helps my business. I would recommend that your hubby go to www.budsgunshop.com and buy his gun there. Have it shipped to a local FFL that does transfers for a reasonable rate.
I charge $5 for transfers but I’m considered one of the lowest on the east coast. I wouldn’t pay over $25 for a transfer of a rifle, shotgun or handgun. If a shop wants more than that, they are ripping you off.
I once had a business meeting several hours drive away, and met a colleague at a Dick's to park my car and ride with him. When he got there I said "The sign says 'Dick's Sporting Goods'. Which is it?" So he says "Duh! That's the same thing!"
Not to start any flames here, but I hate Dick’s. Went in there one time and it looked to me like all their stuff was crap. I prefer Academy, they sell lots of stuff I like and I’ve never walked out of there pissed off.
LOL. I'll have to agree with that. I recently went to Dick's to get some shotgun shells that were advertised on sale. Have previously bought ammo, targets, and a .22 rifle at that particular store. A store re-model was under way, and that department had been eliminated. A salesperson told me that all that inventory had been shipped to another store, and this store would no longer carry these type items.
How can they still call themselves a sporting goods store? If I wanted shoes or a windbreaker, I'd go to Target.
Sportsman's Warehouse is MUCH better, at least the ones near me.
“manufacture” in 27CFR478/479 means to make for resale for profit.
At least you didn't lose them in a boating accident. I tell ya', when these lakes in central Texas start drying up in the current drought, I'm heading out there with the metal detector to see if I can find some of those lost guns.
Prolly won’t NEED a MD. There’ll be this huge mountain-o-gunz right in the middle of where the lake used to be! Condition of the metal and wood parts may vary.
It was a bloody mess. Stocks, shucks, kernels, buckshot, stalks and barrels.
Guns and butter...
You’re absolutely right — definitely not wanting to support store/chain that either makes up nonsense to cover themselves, or won’t sell what is legal at all. We definitely won’t be back to Dick’s for anything — which is a shame because it’s the closest sporting goods store. The nearest Academy is in the hood, and I hate driving into Nashville to hit Bass. But it looks like that’s what I’ll be doing.
Go to The Gun Source as they have this rifle in three different calibers. Purchase the rifle from them using your debit/credit card (saving sales tax if they're not in your state) and have it delivered to your local gun shop. The folks at Gun Source are great to work with and I have bought from them several times with great success.
PS: You stated that you're in Tennessee, but your flag was a Texas flag. If you are in middle Tennessee, send me a FReepmail and I can tell you who I use to take delivery. They are located just 3 exits south of the Franklin Dick's Sporting Goods, at #46.
Yes, a commercial manufacturer needs a Type 6 license (a misnomer to call it a “firearms” license, but that’s what they call it.
A non-commercial manufacturer (as defined by the dictionary, not federal bureaucrats) does not require a license.
Search for the weapon you want on Gunbroker.com (out of Atlanta, GA) and bid on it.
If you are the winning bid, pay for the firearm and send a copy of the FFL to the seller (the seller will indicate the shipping charge to be paid).
Complete the completely legal transaction without dealing with DICKS.
Thanks! My flag is a TX flag b/c we relocated from DFW this past fall...and I haven’t even thought to change it til you mentioned it!
In an earlier post on this thread I called them PC. Maybe they, like many sporting goods stores that have dropped the hunting sports, made a business decision to not have to stock items that cost them so much in paperwork and manpower (filling out the paperwork and maintaining it).
Along with that is the fact the BATFE scumbags jail and fine FFL dealers for minor paperwork infractions. Not only do these businesses not want those fines and possible court costs but they want to protect their employees from the same. They also do not want to incur the expense of training their employees to fill out and maintain all that garbage.
Did you try to purchase the rifle at the Franklin store?
No, the Mount Juliet store.
For guns at least, look for a little mom & pop in your town or nearby. Shorter drive, better service, more knowledgeable staff, and a good type of business to help stay in business.
Type 07 and 10 FFL's can also manufacture ammo for commercial sale. See tagline...
And if you really must go to a chain sporting goods store, try Sportsman’s Warehouse, if you have any in your area. I’ve found them to be superior to Bass Pro, and especially to Dick’s. Don’t have a whole lot of experience with Cabela’s, but for what little I do have, Sportsman’s beats em.
Lost all of mine at Fermilab needless to say, NEVER put all you guns in front of a particle accelerator.
Boy! was my face red .
you can make 100,000 rounds a day as long as its for yourself for personal use but if you sell any then you are “manufacturing” and you need a FFL.
I've never been to a "Dick's." What is it? Just bicycles & shoes, right? The libs, they sure do love their bicycles. Saw a "Dick's" at a mall near me, and they seem to have quite a bit of floorspace.
The most disturbing part of the situation was that it wasn't his vomit.
The tragedy is that the authorities never determined whose vomit was involved. I mean, back then, you couldn't just go in and “dust for vomit.”
“Dick’s ... it’s not just our name, it’s who we are”
“Colorado is now a deep dark blue. With that in mind I am sure the gun grabbers are also in power.”
Neither is true. Colorado has a Republican-majority House, so the Marxists are stymied locally. Also, the Rats saw a net loss of two Colorado U.S. House seats last November.
We also have some of the best gun laws in the nation, including must-issue concealed carry, state preemption of local gun laws, and very liberal laws when it comes to transporting firearms in one’s vehicle.
Also, the State Instacheck folks have long hours and quick response.
All-in-all, this is still a very gun-friendly state, and the Rats seem to have no real appetite to change that right now.
Manager is spouting total bullshit.
I’m a federally licensed firearms dealer in Colorado, and there have been no new federal or state firearms laws passed any time recently, and I have been notified of no new recent regulation changes by the BATF, which they diligently notify me of via periodic newsletter.
That manager is a lying “Dick Head”, which I believe is the brand name of Dick’s store-brand bike helmets.
Aw shucks, thats a corny thing to say. =)