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Florida governor signs welfare drug-screen measure
cnn.com ^ | June 1, 2011

Posted on 06/01/2011 5:59:40 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012

Saying it is "unfair for Florida taxpayers to subsidize drug addiction," Gov. Rick Scott on Tuesday signed legislation requiring adults applying for welfare assistance to undergo drug screening.

"It's the right thing for taxpayers," Scott said after signing the measure. "It's the right thing for citizens of this state that need public assistance. We don't want to waste tax dollars. And also, we want to give people an incentive to not use drugs."

Under the law, which takes effect on July 1, the Florida Department of Children and Family Services will be required to conduct the drug tests on adults applying to the federal Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. The aid recipients would be responsible for the cost of the screening, which they would recoup in their assistance if they qualify. Those who fail the required drug testing may designate another individual to receive the benefits on behalf of their children.

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TOPICS: Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: drugs; drugtest; freecheeze; governor; tanf; taxes; welfare

1 posted on 06/01/2011 5:59:41 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

this kind of thing has been talked about for years. It’s about time somebody finally did it.


2 posted on 06/01/2011 6:01:37 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (The biggest, most pernicious greed of all -- government greed)
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To: Cubs Fan

That should help. Now they need to test the welfare Brats too. This will only test the Rat Vote Breeders.


3 posted on 06/01/2011 6:06:48 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: Cubs Fan

Just wait until the screaming from Democrats/media/& most churches about how the poor drug addicts won’t be able to score meth now.


4 posted on 06/01/2011 6:07:58 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: ilovesarah2012

“Those who fail the required drug testing may designate another individual to receive the benefits on behalf of their children.”

So, in essence, this legislation means nothing!


5 posted on 06/01/2011 6:10:18 AM PDT by radioone
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To: ilovesarah2012

[Those who fail the required drug testing may designate another individual to receive the benefits on behalf of their children.]

That’s dumb. They’ll just get the money and give it to the crackhead anyway.


6 posted on 06/01/2011 6:11:57 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: radioone

But the company Scott has a financial interest in will make money.


7 posted on 06/01/2011 6:13:04 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
Those who fail the required drug testing may designate another individual to receive the benefits on behalf of their children.

What if they don't know anyone who CAN pass the test?

8 posted on 06/01/2011 6:14:49 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: ilovesarah2012

That law will be voided with the first lawsuit. If not State, then the Federal court will most likely strike it down.

States cannot even require welfare recipients to apply for work, so how can they insist on running recipients’ personal lives?

Nanny statism.

The law looked good on paper, but no matter how well meaning, it infringes on a person’s personal life.


9 posted on 06/01/2011 6:16:06 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: ilovesarah2012

If we did that it NY, it would cost us MORE bucks because we would insist they join a program as a condition of receiving freebees.


10 posted on 06/01/2011 6:18:22 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: TomGuy

That sounds like a freshman college girl I was talking to a long time ago -

“Yes, my parents HAVE to pay for my college, and NO, they can’t tell me what to do.”


11 posted on 06/01/2011 6:18:53 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: TomGuy

Correct...the USSC ruled you cant even drug test legislators, it violates their 4th amendment rights...

and the federal courts have thrown out drug testing for welfare in michigan when it was tried...

Nope....the only people who have to pee in a cup to keep a job are the useful proles who actually work for a living and pay taxes...


12 posted on 06/01/2011 6:24:51 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Better to just end “welfare” and let charities do this type of work.


13 posted on 06/01/2011 6:25:12 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: Crim

Nobody HAS to pee in a cup for employment, but Americans do seem all to willing to do so.

There was an article on drug testing a few years ago where they asked an EDS executive why they don’t require drug tests for Canadian and European employees, but they do for American employees. The answer was that the Americans put up with it, the foreigners don’t.


14 posted on 06/01/2011 6:31:48 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: nina0113

The state will save lots of money;o)


15 posted on 06/01/2011 6:32:57 AM PDT by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: Cubs Fan

Exactly what I was thinking when I read the headline ... “It’s about f’ing time”.

It’s a good start, but the real issue is “Why have welfare at all?”.

These freeloaders have been riding in the wagon far too long, many of them their whole lives. I’m tired of pulling them. I have an obligation to my family PERIOD!!. Anybody else that I help is charity and it should be completely up to me who I help and who I don’t help.


16 posted on 06/01/2011 6:34:20 AM PDT by ChiefJayStrongbow
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To: ilovesarah2012

This is clearly racist </sarcasm>


17 posted on 06/01/2011 6:35:34 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: nina0113

“What if they don’t know anyone who CAN pass the test?”

I am assuming if someone is using drugs and doesn’t pass the test, a family member can take the children. No family? A foster home. The money should then be returned since foster parents receive money to raise the kids. Not a good situation either way for the kids but it is what it is.


18 posted on 06/01/2011 6:42:58 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: ChiefJayStrongbow

Do you think this law will reduce taxes?


19 posted on 06/01/2011 6:46:06 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

I did’nt see that it required those currently getting welfare to be tested, only those applying for it.
All welfare recipiants should be drug tested the 3rd day of every month.


20 posted on 06/01/2011 6:50:10 AM PDT by Just A Reader
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To: Just A Reader

If they know when they will be tested, they will get clean for the test. Not sure this is anything but an attempt to make Scott look good. It has already been found unconstitutional in Michaigan and I am pretty sure Scott knows that.


21 posted on 06/01/2011 6:54:50 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
Those who fail the required drug testing may designate another individual to receive the benefits on behalf of their children.

This is silly, unless the state will also require the person receiving the benefits to care for the children (without the drug addicted parents around).

22 posted on 06/01/2011 7:06:57 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

HA!! That’s why I said the 3rd of the month. You know as soon as the check comes they are getting high. LOL!


23 posted on 06/01/2011 7:11:25 AM PDT by Just A Reader
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To: radioone

You are RIGHT! What a pant-load!

The bill does absolutely NOTHING since the doper is refused the funds and food, a friend is, and the doper gets it back from the friend...less a little cut for the friend.

The people should be enraged over this stupid bill. However, we’ve dumbed down the normal citizen to blindly believe only the headline and first sentence of any article they see or hear.


24 posted on 06/01/2011 7:21:52 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Racism, pure and simple! < /sarc >


25 posted on 06/01/2011 9:32:49 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Those who fail the required drug testing may designate another individual to receive the benefits on behalf of their children.

Will the "designated individual" have to pass the drug test?

26 posted on 06/01/2011 9:34:10 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

Thinking ahead, a new cottage industry is born; a non-druggie receiving the kids’ benefits on behalf of the addicts, for a cut, of course!


27 posted on 06/01/2011 9:36:11 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

“Saying it is “unfair for Florida taxpayers to subsidize drug addiction,” Gov. Rick Scott on Tuesday signed legislation requiring adults applying for welfare assistance to undergo drug screening.”

Let’s see how far this gets before it’s struck down by the courts.

The courts (up to and including the U.S. Supreme Court) have endorsed drug testing in the past in employer/worker situations, as a matter of “public safety”.

But it’s going to be hard to apply the “public safety” precedent to a situation where someone is being “given benefits” in return for, well, nothing else.

I’m hoping the law can be made to “stick”, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s defeated through the courts.

Just sayin’....


28 posted on 06/01/2011 9:38:32 AM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: JimRed

A lot of white people get welfare but I guess they are more deserving.


29 posted on 06/01/2011 9:38:54 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Grumplestiltskin

Scott knows it will be struck down. The point of it is to make him look tough. And maybe something to do with his financial interests in clinics that do the testing.


30 posted on 06/01/2011 9:41:18 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

They will get tested too. But look for the NAALCP, AC(riminal)LU and others to scream racism.


31 posted on 06/01/2011 9:42:33 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Wolfie

“Nobody HAS to pee in a cup for employment, but Americans do seem all to willing to do so.”

You’ll find yourself quite wrong on that one, my FRiend, if you try to get hired on an airline or railroad, or keep being employed by same.

Drug testing in the railroad operating crafts has been going on for years. I believe the “drug test issue” on the railroads was the first such case to reach the U.S. Supreme Court — which ruled AGAINST the unions and in full favor of the companies’ right to test.

Drug testing is also FEDERALLY MANDATED in some situations, such as “post-accident” tests to determine if the train crew was impaired. There is no way around it.

Just tellin’ it like it is...
(Having worked on the rails for 32 years now)


32 posted on 06/01/2011 9:43:16 AM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: Grumplestiltskin

What I mean is you can always look for another job.


33 posted on 06/01/2011 10:02:42 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: ilovesarah2012

ACORN/democrats/ACLU will claim this singles out addicts and that addictions are covered under ADA.

bet on it.


34 posted on 06/01/2011 5:55:19 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: KansasGirl

probably an amendment from demonrats to get republicans to pass the bill .

you’re right, it’s dumb.


35 posted on 06/01/2011 6:00:18 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I wrote and article on helium about this very topic.
http://www.helium.com/items/2170406-welfare-recipents-drug-testing


36 posted on 06/06/2011 4:52:03 PM PDT by bella617
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