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Federal Speed Traps
Washington Times ^ | 01 Jun 2011 | Unsigned Editorial

Posted on 06/02/2011 5:19:20 AM PDT by relictele

Millions hit the road to be with family and friends for barbecues and other outdoor activities on Memorial Day weekend. It’s no coincidence that police around the country were staked out on the side of the road in anticipation. That’s because the federal government encourages states to shake down travelers who pose no threat to others.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: engineering; police; speeding; traffic
An excellent piece with unshakable supporting data.

Although they aren't mentioned, many states have also staged East German style 'safety' checkpoints to confirm - wait for it - seat belt and infant seat use. Many of us can recall seat belt laws first being proposed with the promise that they wouldn't become primary violations (i.e. you can be stopped/ticketed for that reason alone). Like all promises from statists, it was a lie. Now the police will gladly wipe their feet on the 4th Amendment as they impede your right to travel.

Also left out are the crimes committed while the police are out collecting revenue. Memorial Day weekend featured riots in various cities. One authority figure admitted the state police were unprepared to respond. Could it be that they were engaged in other activities (funded by Uncle Sam) at the time?

Despite most FReepers' healthy skepticism of government and its machinations there are many who seem to believe that black-on-white speed limit signs were placed by a divine hand rather than by bureaucrats who intentionally ignore the recommendations of traffic engineers.

1 posted on 06/02/2011 5:19:23 AM PDT by relictele
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To: relictele; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; ...

I can beat that one. On Memorial day weekend I got pulled over and fined for not wearing a seatbelt. I was only 1/4 mile from my neighborhood which was in view.

The police office who was a nice young lady told me she hates Seatbelt Awareness month where she is assigned to stake out middle class low crime residential neighborhoods to trap law-biding citizens to issue them $25 fines with no points for not wearing seatbelts. You can bet she didnt see that on those police shows she watched as a child that made her want the job.

Better yet, when they passed the seatbelt laws here the police said they would not use it to pull over motorists, but that was well over a decade ago.


2 posted on 06/02/2011 5:36:15 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: relictele

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxTNZUhesZk
It is impossible to parody liberals. They take it as a suggestion of what to do.


3 posted on 06/02/2011 5:43:40 AM PDT by jmcenanly ( "We pay a person the compliment of acknowledging his superiority whenever we lie to him." -Samuel)
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To: sickoflibs

It’s a good way to make money. And by law-abiding, you mean “people breaking the seat belt law”.

I got nailed for not completely stopping at a stop sign. Everyone in the car thought I stopped but I wasn’t sure. So I paid the fine. Now I make sure to stop. Make sure you wear your seat belt.


4 posted on 06/02/2011 5:48:09 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: relictele

‘...who pose no threat to others.’

In court it will be claimed that the mere act of speeding is the threat. Judges everywhere eat it up. In fact speeding itself isn’t the problem but rather gradient between speeds. Frankly, the biggest safety problem in this mix is police conduct. They speed to catch the speeder going well above prevailing traffic flow. This in itself is a big problem. Then they often block traffic flow to give the ticket. Even if they don’t traffic has to accommodate them which slows everything WAY down. Speed laws should be guidelines not hard and fast limits. However, as we all know its not about safety, its about making $.


5 posted on 06/02/2011 5:53:10 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: sickoflibs; All

I can top everyone.. I was wearing my seat belt, them some a**hole State Trooper pulled me over saying I wasn’t. Cost me $60 for a violation I didn’t commit.


6 posted on 06/02/2011 5:53:33 AM PDT by KevinDavis (The Birthers have a TMI issue..)
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To: relictele

As I like to point out...
[Solving] Crime doesn’t pay, giving out tickets does.


7 posted on 06/02/2011 5:54:11 AM PDT by Delmarksman (Pro 2A Anglican American (Ford and Chevy kill more people than guns do, lets ban them))
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To: AppyPappy
RE :"It’s a good way to make money. And by law-abiding, you mean “people breaking the seat belt law”.

HA-HA. yes, evenually everyone becomes a criminal with these law. Ironically I usually spot unmarked police cars and radar traps and know where all the red light cameras are but in this case I was taking a short trip back home and got lazy. My fault.

8 posted on 06/02/2011 5:54:47 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: relictele
Texas and Utah have set certain routes at 80 mph. Nationwide, the road fatality rate is at its lowest point ever. Speed alone demonstrably does not kill.

It's a shakedown. It's all about money - Your money and my money being robbed at gunpoint by armed revenue collection agents under the color of law. A fine example of insurance companies and government working hand in hand to empty the wallets of the driving populace. "to extort and oppress"

there are many who seem to believe that black-on-white speed limit signs were placed by a divine hand

Entirely too many who post on this site as well.

9 posted on 06/02/2011 5:57:53 AM PDT by from occupied ga
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To: from occupied ga; sickoflibs
Texas and Utah have set certain routes at 80 mph.

Even that is a trap. 80 mph in the daytime, 65 mph at night. They write lots of tickets at night, including one for my wife.

10 posted on 06/02/2011 6:10:13 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: KevinDavis

Traffic Court is one place where the old saying Innocent until proven guilty does not count.

You are guilty of whatever the cop says you are guilty of. Your word doesnt mean squat.

I got ticketed on my motorcycle. After waiting through two lights I went through the stop light. The motorcycle did not trip the switch that changes the light. It happens. The cop could have cared less. I went to court and lost.


11 posted on 06/02/2011 6:14:25 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: sickoflibs
was a nice young lady told me she hates Seatbelt Awareness month where she is assigned to stake out middle class low crime residential neighborhoods

*was* being the keyword...that whore [screwin you for money] is part of the problem...

if cops simply refused to write em, we wouldnt have that problem eh ???

12 posted on 06/02/2011 6:18:58 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: relictele

When I get an unfair ticket, especially if it is local, I won’t buy anything in that county or town again. I have traveled all over the country.


13 posted on 06/02/2011 6:18:58 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: sickoflibs

Never believe a cop! Call the local politican and tell him you are going to run against him next term.


14 posted on 06/02/2011 6:25:48 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: 556x45
Frankly, the biggest safety problem in this mix is police conduct

*gubmint* conduct in general is the problem...

i once saw one of those cute lil radar boxes on the side of the road, hopelessly destroyed...the number of black marks leading to the spot told me that a chain reaction occured when somebody noticed the box and locked em up, and hopefully the only injury/fatality was the taxpayer purchased robocop...

15 posted on 06/02/2011 6:32:00 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: relictele

Thank you SCOTUS for that decision allowing DUI checkpoints and opening up this entire can of worms.

The same session by the way that decided that burning the American Flag was hunky-dory.

Part of me wants to drive up to a DUI checkpoint, get out of my car and set fire to a flag. Would tie up our entire Federal court system for the next 13 years while they figured out what to do with me.


16 posted on 06/02/2011 6:33:41 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: sickoflibs
... where she is assigned to stake out middle class low crime residential neighborhoods to trap law-biding citizens to issue them $25 fines with no points for not wearing seatbelts.

Has your local paper started running stories about white criminals? Some 'crimes' so lame you wonder why it's being covered until you see the picture of the person with blond hair and blue eyes...

Liberal elites are on the defensive - they know people are waking up to black crime and they'll do what they can to keep liberal lies in force.( Liberal narrative: Blacks are eternal victims - whites are thugs )

We'll see more of this... that said, you should use a seat-belt, sickoflibs. We want you here - not in some hospital with a broken neck.

17 posted on 06/02/2011 6:43:13 AM PDT by GOPJ (youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c www.citizenwarrior.com/2009/05/terrifying-brilliance-of-islam.html)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Part of me wants to drive up to a DUI checkpoint, get out of my car and set fire to a flag. Would tie up our entire Federal court system for the next 13 years while they figured out what to do with me.

But you need to pop a can of beer while you are watching it burn. ;o)

18 posted on 06/02/2011 7:06:02 AM PDT by super7man
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To: relictele
Despite most FReepers' healthy skepticism of government and its machinations there are many who seem to believe that black-on-white speed limit signs were placed by a divine hand

Heheheh.. Well done. And very accurate.

It's the LAW! Conservatives are not on our side at all. We are free or we are not. There is no middle ground.

19 posted on 06/02/2011 7:16:44 AM PDT by EvasiveManuever (Shakespeare got it wrong. Not the lawyers... journalists.)
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To: Gilbo_3; NFHale; org.whodat
RE :"*was* being the keyword...that whore [screwin you for money] is part of the problem...if cops simply refused to write em, we wouldnt have that problem eh ??? "

Holy crap, I am glad you were not in the car with me when I got pulled over. You probably would have got yourself maced and handcuffed and my car impounded, hell it's a $25 fine with no points and she didnt ask me about anything else unrelated and half apologized for it.

I should have known it was a trap coming up on it, I was getting soft. Maryland is notorious for radar/laser speed traps unmarked patrol cars, even the marked ones are built stealthy looking (black with very low flat pull over lights) and yet I usually can pick those out and avoid speeding and other tickets .

20 posted on 06/02/2011 7:23:45 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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RE Gilbo_3: “...those cute lil radar boxes on the side of the road, hopelessly destroyed...”

Yeah they have them in my neck of the woods, too. But a strange thing happens to some of them...they have “accidents” sometimes, I’m told...they just suddenly stop working, occasionally... and there are holes in them.

Lotsa vandalism, I guess...’s a shame, really...guess folks don’t like being entrapped on their way to work...you know, the same folk who pay taxes, which pays the salaries of the folks doing the entrapping.

Thug behind the badge, or in front of the badge...sometimes, I can’t tell the difference...

I lost all respect for the Blue Hero Brotherhood when they went from being Peace Officers (as in “keeping the peace”) to Law EnFORCEment (Damnit!) Officers.

RE Buckeye McFrog: “...get out of my car and set fire to a flag...”

There’s plenty of things that need fire, but our flag ain’t one of them, good brother. While I understand your sentiment, that’s just wrong any way ya look at it...the scum who are doing this to the Country are the flag-burners, not us. Too many good, fine, decent American kids died for that flag.

Instead, burn a rainbow fagflag, a UN flag, or a communist hammer and sickle flag; that’ll REALLY make their heads explode.


21 posted on 06/02/2011 9:07:08 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: sickoflibs; txhurl; basil; wolfcreek; lormand
I can beat that one. On Memorial day weekend I got pulled over and fined for not wearing a seatbelt. I was only 1/4 mile from my neighborhood which was in view.

KLBJ has been talking about the 10 yr old Leander boy who was ticketed by a Williamson county deputy for incorrectly wearing his seat belt. You fellow central Texans surely remember the Attwater vs Lago Vista seat belt case that went to SCOTUS.

22 posted on 06/02/2011 9:12:37 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (zero hates Texas and we hate him back.)
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To: relictele; sickoflibs; Gilbo_3; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; ...

“...Operation Air, Land and Speed,...”
and
“...Click It! Or Ticket!”...
and
“...“highway safety corridor”...

Aw, gee, ain’t they just, just, the GINCHIEST!?!?! They’re SOOOOOOOOOOO creative with these imaginative catchy phrases!!! Wish I could be THAT smart!

My heroes...{sigh}...they’re just so, so DREAMY in their little Gestapo boots...especially the 400-pound affirmative action female orificers...oops, I meant “officers”...


23 posted on 06/02/2011 9:21:05 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: relictele

UCC 1-207/308


24 posted on 06/02/2011 9:23:01 AM PDT by phockthis
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To: Gilbo_3; sickoflibs

Yeah.

If she was really! sorry she wouldn’t do it. But she’s got a quota to fill.

I wonder if there are polite muggers, “Oh I’m sorry ma’am but I need to buy weed, for my grandma’s glaucoma.”


25 posted on 06/02/2011 12:58:23 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: relictele
Dirty little secret:

Many times, if you fight the ticket in court, the cop won't show and the judge will dismiss.

Depends on what type of infraction also. If you don't have a valid license or insurance, it probably won't work.

26 posted on 06/02/2011 12:59:12 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: sickoflibs

Yet another sad story.


27 posted on 06/02/2011 4:29:41 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: sickoflibs
Holy crap, I am glad you were not in the car with me when I got pulled over. You probably would have got yourself maced and handcuffed and my car impounded, hell it's a $25

hhehehe...$25 bucks is $25 bucks, and the principle still stands...I told one goober to get his ass busy writing, and left his wonderin *if* it was worth it to have pulled me over...

seriously, would you risk yer life to rob $25 from a citizen, minding their own business, for the system ???

28 posted on 06/02/2011 8:37:30 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3; Marine_Uncle; NFHale; Arrowhead1952
RE :”hhehehe...$25 bucks is $25 bucks, and the principle still stands...I told one goober to get his ass busy writing, and left his wonderin *if* it was worth it to have pulled me over...seriously, would you risk yer life to rob $25 from a citizen, minding their own business, for the system ???

You sure are a character :)

But as my original comment pointed out, it was clear she knew she was not risking her life in my area known for its low crime and she felt foolish having to do such a meaningless task.

I gotta real example for you that meets your point, For years Maryland police were doing radar speed trap flagdowns so they could pull over multiple speeders without a moving car for each speeder. Eventually a officer got ran down and killed by a woman who didnt spot him when being flagged down jumping in front of her.

Clearly they were asked to risk their life for $$$ here (not the $25 they will get from me for them doing nothing.) What did the state do? They tried to indite the poor driver for manslaughter. The grand jury threw it out and the police ended the practice. I completely questioned the sanity of that suicidal policy with many people I know and even posted the news article on it here.

29 posted on 06/02/2011 8:59:06 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: Arrowhead1952

This is where having an illegal Mexican as your chaufeur pays... you will NOT be pulled over.


30 posted on 06/02/2011 9:06:40 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish?)
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To: sickoflibs
every bootlicker will tell ya that the common traffic stop is among the most dangerously unpredictable situations they face...this is used to justify beatdowns and tazings whenever a citizen gets uppity and demands to be treated with courtesy and respect by their employees...

there is very likely a correlation between bambamonomics and the cost of tickets vs the spike in lEOs gettin shot during 'routine' revenue enhancement activities of late...

i wont lose sleep over oath breakers that get dead whilst robbing their masters...

31 posted on 06/03/2011 7:47:15 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: sickoflibs

Sort of Key Stone COPS material.


32 posted on 06/03/2011 12:28:35 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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