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Laquey Elementary School running fundraiser for Joplin tornado victims
Pulaski County Daily News ^ | 5/23/2011 | Darrell Todd Maurina

Posted on 06/02/2011 5:37:38 AM PDT by darrellmaurina

LAQUEY, Mo. (May 23, 2011) — Just one day after a tornado struck Joplin and destroyed thousands of homes, the 287 students of Laquey Elementary School began a fundraising project that they hope will help a fellow southwest Missouri community. The Laquey R-V School District is located to the west and southwest of Fort Leonard Wood, and the New Years Eve tornado which struck Fort Leonard Wood tore through the far southern end of the Laquey district on its way to the post. While nobody was hurt and the affected parts of the Laquey district were mostly unpopulated forested land, Elementary Principal Michael Mayle said he was glad students wanted to do something to help. “It was Pam Nelson; a kindergarten teacher. She came in this morning and asked if we could do something. Within 30 minutes, a fifth grade student, Mikayla Snyder, came in with the same idea so we kind of coordinated both efforts,” Mayle said. “We normally have a really good turnout of support for all kinds of different fundraisers. Not too long ago in February we did a ‘pennies for patients’ for leukemia and we set a $500 goal, and within a week we almost had $1,000.”

(Excerpt) Read more at pulaskicountydaily.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; clickmyblog; ineedhitz; joplin; pimpmyblog; tornado
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1 posted on 06/02/2011 5:37:41 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina
(Excerpt) Read more at pulaskicountydaily.com ...

I don't see this source on the excerpt list.

2 posted on 06/02/2011 5:42:29 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner
Thank you for your comment, Humblegunner.

Some clarifications -- I own the Pulaski County Daily News. There are two local message boards in our county which have cited articles for years by copying the lead paragraphs with a link to the full article, and at this point I either post the articles on those message boards myself or have someone else do it for me.

I've been a registered member of Free Republic for about half a decade and I sometimes post the lead paragraphs of articles here, in the same format as the two local websites, if I think they would be of interest to a broader non-local readership, either due to military issues or due to major disasters such as what's happening with the Missouri National Guard mobilization to help Joplin.

Unlike many in the media, I'm a conservative. In fact, I'm a Reagan Republican and was campaigning for Reagan back in 1980 when he was considered unelectable by much of the Republican leadership. The last thing I want to do is tell conservative websites like Free Republic that they can't use the full text of news articles. In other words, using lead paragraphs with a link is a preference, not a requirement.

However, we have to deal with economic realities of a capitalist economy, and if we are going to document readership to advertisers, we need to back up readership claims with real statistics. I don't think it's too much to ask that people who are interested in the first few paragraphs of an article click a link to read the full article so we can report the number of readers to our advertisers.

(In that context, I'd better add that the web software we use doesn't even make it possible to identify individual readers. Since we're the most-read civilian newspaper outside Fort Leonard Wood, a large Army installation, a major percentage of our readers are active duty military or their families. I would never dream of reporting anything beyond aggregate numbers -- i.e., how many people have read each article, how many people visited the website on specific days and months, and how many of them had Missouri-based IP addresses versus non-local IPs.)

I trust that on a conservative website like Free Republic which values the military and values free enterprise, those reasons will be understandable.

3 posted on 06/03/2011 1:02:07 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: humblegunner
Thank you for your comment, Humblegunner.

Some clarifications -- I own the Pulaski County Daily News. There are two local message boards in our county which have cited articles for years by copying the lead paragraphs with a link to the full article, and at this point I either post the articles on those message boards myself or have someone else do it for me.

I've been a registered member of Free Republic for about half a decade and I sometimes post the lead paragraphs of articles here, in the same format as the two local websites, if I think they would be of interest to a broader non-local readership, either due to military issues or due to major disasters such as what's happening with the Missouri National Guard mobilization to help Joplin.

Unlike many in the media, I'm a conservative. In fact, I'm a Reagan Republican and was campaigning for Reagan back in 1980 when he was considered unelectable by much of the Republican leadership. The last thing I want to do is tell conservative websites like Free Republic that they can't use the full text of news articles. In other words, using lead paragraphs with a link is a preference, not a requirement.

However, we have to deal with economic realities of a capitalist economy, and if we are going to document readership to advertisers, we need to back up readership claims with real statistics. I don't think it's too much to ask that people who are interested in the first few paragraphs of an article click a link to read the full article so we can report the number of readers to our advertisers.

(In that context, I'd better add that the web software we use doesn't even make it possible to identify individual readers. Since we're the most-read civilian newspaper outside Fort Leonard Wood, a large Army installation, a major percentage of our readers are active duty military or their families. I would never dream of reporting anything beyond aggregate numbers -- i.e., how many people have read each article, how many people visited the website on specific days and months, and how many of them had Missouri-based IP addresses versus non-local IPs.)

I trust that on a conservative website like Free Republic which values the military and values free enterprise, those reasons will be understandable.

4 posted on 06/03/2011 1:02:22 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina; shibumi; Larry Lucido; TheOldLady; 50mm; Eaker; Allegra; Salamander; ...
I don't think it's too much to ask that people who are interested in the first few paragraphs of an article click a link to read the full article so we can report the number of readers to our advertisers.

Classic blogpimp rationalization ping.

5 posted on 06/03/2011 1:14:12 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

How many blog pimps have used this same good-cause, need-hits argument?


6 posted on 06/03/2011 2:00:26 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: humblegunner

7 posted on 06/03/2011 2:10:55 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Your what hurts??)
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To: darrellmaurina
I own the Pulaski County Daily News.

Then there exist no impediments to your posting of the full content here.

Unless you are only here in a commercial capacity.

Are you only here in a commercial capacity?

8 posted on 06/03/2011 2:22:09 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: darrellmaurina
This really is a good cause and I'm glad to see it's getting some exposure.

'Twould be far more noble if you'd post the article here in its entirety so as not to give the appearance of trolling for blog hits.

Just sayin'...

9 posted on 06/03/2011 2:22:14 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: humblegunner; darrellmaurina; shibumi

And where’s that shibumi guy with the great deal of the day?

I don’t know what to do with all the product I bought last night. Never drink and deal.


10 posted on 06/03/2011 2:28:45 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: humblegunner

OMG! ROFL!!!!

The truth comes out!


11 posted on 06/03/2011 3:30:27 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Free Lazamataz! With every purchase!)
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To: darrellmaurina; humblegunner; Allegra; TheOldLady
Advertising your blog on FreeRepublic is encouraged, but you must first pass a rigorous test to determine if you can accurately mimic animal sounds in a number of foreign languages.

Here is a site that will help you in your mastery of this skill.

(Hey, you never know when you might have to communicate with some Hungarian on a doggy thread.)

Oh, wait ..... You ~NEVER~ comment on any threads other than you own, do you?

You only show up to pimp you blog and then skeedaddle.

If it wasn't for the chance to hawk you wares, we'd never know you existed, now would we?

12 posted on 06/03/2011 3:33:14 PM PDT by shibumi (Ego Nunquam Ubi Sub Ubi!)
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To: TheOldLady

Too many.


13 posted on 06/03/2011 4:15:19 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: shibumi; darrellmaurina
Classic blogpimp. Doesn't care about staying and discussing much, never posts on threads started by others, and only posts from his blog. So typical.


14 posted on 06/03/2011 4:20:02 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: shibumi; DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis; Allegra; TheOldLady; Larry Lucido; Bean Counter; ...

Guys, I have been here at Free Republic for years and I have never before seen anything like this type of negative response to something I’ve posted. Bottom line up front — I’m not going to post here if I’m not wanted, or if the Free Republic management (which to my knowledge isn’t even aware I exist) doesn’t want these posts.

I’ve been around the web long enough to know that a strongly negative response, especially if it has never happened before, may or may not reflect anywhere close to the majorty of readers.

For that reason, I’m copying this to some key people from the Missouri “ping” list, as well as others who have previously interacted with articles I’ve posted about Fort Leonard Wood, because I want to make sure what I’m writing here gets seen not only by the people who are upset right now but also those who are directly involved in Free Republic on Missouri issues on a regular basis, or who have a history of paying attention to what I’ve posted before.

While “squeaky wheels” often can and should get the grease, if I’m going to stop posting things here, that needs to be based on information from many people who read these articles, not just those who have commented on a few articles.

The question was asked whether I am posting Pulaski County Daily News articles here for commercial reasons. I’d be lying if I tried to say it wasn’t a consideration at all — it is a minor reason, but certainly not a major one.

I monitor where traffic is coming from. It’s almost entirely local readers, and that’s the way things should be with local media. Frankly, I would have a problem on my hands if I couldn’t say most readers are local. Free Republic sometimes makes the top 100 referring sites during a month, but when it does it’s usually near the bottom apart from occasional major stories about something important that our soldiers are doing. Up until this series of comments, I thought a fair number of people would be interested in how the Missouri National Guard and local communities in southwest Missouri are responding to the Joplin tornado.

In other words, posting things on Free Republic is of minimal help to me, and if Free Republic were generating a significant amount of traffic it would actually create a problem. Local media have to prove that their readers are local because our advertisers are local, not national.

What counts, however, is that I don’t want to be where I’m not wanted. If the site administrators, or even a significant minority of readers, don’t want things posted, they won’t be posted.

It doesn’t just take a majority to get me to go away. If a significant minority doesn’t want me here, I’ll go away, too. I have zero interest in creating a controversy on Free Republic. And obviously, if the site administrators don’t want me here, I’ll go away immediately. On the other hand, I don’t want to disappear and then have people wondering why I stopped posting on Free Republic merely because of a few complaints on a couple of articles by a few people.


15 posted on 06/03/2011 5:59:07 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina
Nobody asked you to stop posting.

We asked you to stop Pimping.

How does asking you for you to post more of your content constitute a negative response?
16 posted on 06/03/2011 6:19:42 PM PDT by shibumi (Ego Nunquam Ubi Sub Ubi!)
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To: darrellmaurina

Here’s some instructional material from the management -

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2636843/posts?page=552#552

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2722423/posts

Further affiant sayeth not.


17 posted on 06/03/2011 6:33:47 PM PDT by shibumi (Ego Nunquam Ubi Sub Ubi!)
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To: darrellmaurina
a significant minority of readers, don’t want things posted, they won’t be posted.

A significant minority on FR is about 10,000 people but I wouldn't hold my breath for that kind of response.

From the looks of this thread it doesn't appear that many folks care what you do. Except stop blog pimping.

Be sure to understand that I might read your stuff if you post in full but there is no way I am going to give your page a hit just to see if it is any good. You can bet on this. If you post in full and I like what I read I might visit your page or not, but at least there is a chance. As it is there is no chance.

I hate excerpting Blog Pimps and so do a great many FReepers.

If as others have posted you don't participate on other FReeper's threads then you are no more a FReeper than the Domino's Pizza delivery guy is a dinner guest.

18 posted on 06/03/2011 6:34:13 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: darrellmaurina
I understand the thought process behind wanting more hits on your web site.

However, on something of this nature, being about charity for a good cause and not just some type of local news, since it is coming from your own source, and not on the excerpt list, I think you should probably post the entire article, or as close to it as the software allows.

Other articles, basically local news, could be excerpted and try for the web hits.

19 posted on 06/03/2011 6:42:52 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: shibumi

Shibumi, you wrote this: “Oh, wait ..... You ~NEVER~ comment on any threads other than you own, do you? You only show up to pimp you blog and then skeedaddle.”

Click here, at item 23, for a fairly recent example of something else I’ve commented on Free Republic: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2723058/posts

That’s factual proof that the word “NEVER” is wrong.

On the other hand, it is true that I read much more than I comment, and it is true that I don’t post often on other people’s articles. However, when I think I have something to say that I don’t see being said by somebody else, I post a comment. That’s not just Free Republic — I think it would be a fair statement that I rarely post comments on articles on most news sites I read, with the exception of two local message boards in Pulaski County, though I read a large number of news sites.

You also wrote this: “Nobody asked you to stop posting. We asked you to stop Pimping. How does asking you for you to post more of your content constitute a negative response?”

Shibumi, as I’m sure you know, posting the lead paragraphs for articles with a link to the full article is the standard practice in the news media. That’s what most people want. Why post a thousand-word article when it’s easier to put up the key paragraphs for readers to decide whether to click to read the full text? I’m listening to what you and others are saying, and I’m willing to consider doing something different, but what you’re requesting isn’t something most “news aggregators” would even allow, let alone request.

However, I take an accusation of “pimping” as an accusation of bad motives. Certainly it’s not a positive statement. As I’ve said already, if people don’t want me here, I don’t want to be where I am not wanted, and that’s true even if a significant minority object. I have zero desire to create a controversy on Free Republic, and my primary concern is local readers, not traffic from Free Republic. It’s a minor source of readers, and if it became a major source of readers, I would have a problem. I run a local business, and I need to be able to honestly tell my local advertisers that most of my readers are from the local area around Fort Leonard Wood.


20 posted on 06/03/2011 6:47:17 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina

We asked you to post your whole article here and you are complaining that folks don’t want you here? Please explain your logic.


21 posted on 06/03/2011 6:51:24 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: darrellmaurina
Your words -

"However, we have to deal with economic realities of a capitalist economy, and if we are going to document readership to advertisers, we need to back up readership claims with real statistics. I don't think it's too much to ask that people who are interested in the first few paragraphs of an article click a link to read the full article so we can report the number of readers to our advertisers."

That was you, earlier in this thread. This is you, now -

"I have zero desire to create a controversy on Free Republic, and my primary concern is local readers, not traffic from Free Republic. It’s a minor source of readers, and if it became a major source of readers, I would have a problem. I run a local business, and I need to be able to honestly tell my local advertisers that most of my readers are from the local area around Fort Leonard Wood."

So - which is it Sparky? Are you inflating you figures for your advertisers, or are you desirous of ~not~ attracting excess hits from FR so as to give your advertisers a "local" picture of your traffic?

Oh, by the way, about your not commenting on other threads - Congratulations! You managed to pick a comment out of that forest of "1 of X" posting history of yours. Anybody looking at you history can see the truth of the matter.
22 posted on 06/03/2011 7:13:29 PM PDT by shibumi (Ego Nunquam Ubi Sub Ubi!)
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To: shibumi; Jim Robinson

Shibumi, thank you for the links to the comments by the ownership of Free Republic; I’m copying this post to Jim Robinson. I care about private property and will not do anything contrary to the requests of the owners of Free Republic, so rather than guessing what he thinks I’m sending him a copy.

Since he’s probably never heard of me before, I’ve been a registered member of Free Republic since 2006 and have been reading FR longer than that.

I’m a conservative. I’ve spent two and a half decades in the news media, and am very much aware of the problems of liberal bias. I also own the primary civilian news operation outside Fort Leonard Wood, the home of the Army’s Engineer, Chemical, and Military Police schools, and both I and my business partners care a great deal about the military and getting its story told.

In the nearly three years I’ve been crossposting military-related articles to Free Republic, I’ve never seen the sort of comments I’ve seen today. I’m trying to listen to the arguments as if they were made as a polite request, but the accusations I’ve gotten today of “pimping” most emphatically do not go down well with me. If you want to know my motive in posting these Joplin tornado articles, it’s simple — getting attention for what the Missouri National Guard and local communities are doing to help Joplin. Ascribing any other motive is simply not true, and I hope what I am writing is an appropriately calm response to a false accuation of bad motives.

To repeat what I’ve said earlier in this thread, Pulaski County Daily News advertisers are local, not national. We do not benefit from large amounts of web traffic outside the area, and our statistics do not show that Free Republic is a major source of web traffic. If it became a major source of web traffic, both I and my business partners would have a problem, because we need to tell our advertisers that when they buy an ad it will mostly be seen by local readers or those who have some sort of connection with Fort Leonard Wood.


23 posted on 06/03/2011 7:17:02 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina
It’s a minor source of readers, and if it became a major source of readers, I would have a problem.

Then quit pimping your site by excerpting on FR and it won't be a problem for any of us.

Damn, could it be more simple?



PS: Trust me. A majority of the people in the world don't give a damn about Pulaski County so a path will not be beaten to your door because of your actions unless you set the entire thing on fire.

24 posted on 06/03/2011 7:21:24 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: darrellmaurina
Did you actually look at the links?

I have no complaint if a good conservative blogger posts his own material to FR, not as an excerpt to drive hits and discussion back to his blog, but rather to impart useful information to OUR readers and to promote and join in on the discussion and conservative activism HERE on FR.

If so why didn't you understand this?

25 posted on 06/03/2011 7:31:14 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: shibumi

Shibumi, our posts are crossing in cyberspace.

I really do not want an argument with you. I do not dispute that I rarely post comments on other people’s articles. That’s true. It’s also true of most other news sites I visit. I don’t generally post comments on other people’s articles unless I think I have something to say that nobody else is saying.

That could change — I can assure you that if Freepers really want to have me start posting on topics related to news media bias, on the military, and on religious issues (I attend an Associate Reformed Presbyterian congregation in which most of the members are either homeschoolers or send their children to local Christian schools, and virtually all the members are not just evangelicals but fiery right-wing Calvinists), I might have quite a bit to say.

Unfortunately, I have to respond to you not as someone who probably agrees with me on most political issues but because you are accusing me of bad motives. While I appreciate that you’re not accusing me of outright lying, your last posts make some pretty serious criticisms. I think you deserve a response, and I think those who are reading what you write deserve to know how I respond to what you’re saying.

I don’t see that I’m saying anything inconsistent. I said the same thing in this thread that I have said for years not only to you but to many other people about standard news media practices. Yes, I do want to track how many people are reading the Pulaski County Daily News. If Free Republic were driving lots of traffic to the Pulaski County Daily News I would need to re-evaluate whether posting here is a good idea. Right now it simply is not a big deal.

If this had started as a polite request for me to post full text articles, I’d be a lot more receptive. If Jim Robinson wants me to do that, it will start immediately. Same if that’s what a lot of other people here want. The problem now is that my motives are being attacked, and responding to that attack requires more than just starting to post full text of articles.

I am not unaware of how bad the reputation is of reporters in the conservative world. A lot of that is well-deserved, and I’ve seen firsthand from the inside how bad the liberal bias is with much of the news media. Therefore, I want to be especially careful when people with whom I agree politically express concerns, and even when they’re outright attacks.

I went back and checked my Free Republic email and as far as I can tell, until this series of posts on the Joplin tornados, one person asked me to do that in a period of three years — I would have said that posting the lead paragraphs is standard practice in the news media. Generally it’s what people want. To post full text articles is not only a very unusual request, most news aggregators would not permit it.

Based on the tone and tenor of what is being said here, I think I need to ask whether the issue is not just that I am posting excerpts. That concern could be addressed, but there have been some pretty serious attacks on my motives and my integrity.

That’s far more important to me than the relatively minor issue of whether excerpts or full text articles get posted.


26 posted on 06/03/2011 7:47:56 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina
Two questions

"To post full text articles is not only a very unusual request, most news aggregators would not permit it."

Who gave you the impression that FreeRepublic was a "news aggregator?"(sic)

Second question -

Did you read the links I posted to you?
27 posted on 06/03/2011 8:02:15 PM PDT by shibumi (Ego Nunquam Ubi Sub Ubi!)
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To: Eaker

Eaker wrote: “Did you actually look at the links? QUOTING FR ADMIN: ‘I have no complaint if a good conservative blogger posts his own material to FR, not as an excerpt to drive hits and discussion back to his blog, but rather to impart useful information to OUR readers and to promote and join in on the discussion and conservative activism HERE on FR.’ If so why didn’t you understand this?”

Yes, I read the link — the entire post. I also know that the large majority of news articles here are excerpts, not full text. There are also some additional issues that are raised by that link by the administrators. That’s why, rather than guessing what Free Republic administrators want, I “pinged” the owner.

As the Admins wrote in the post: “As always, it is best to just ask. We can’t answer every note that comes in just because we can get overwhelmed, but we do try. We hope that answers some questions for this week.”

I think I just did that.

As I said a moment ago to another critic, if people on Free Republic want me to comment more on other people’s posts, that can easily be done. Likewise, I could start copying full text articles, and I can see some benefits to doing that.

However, the issue here is more important than full-text versus excerpts. My motives are being criticized. I’ve got a thick skin and I’m going to respond calmly rather than in kind, but that sort of criticism does require a response.


28 posted on 06/03/2011 8:03:12 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina
Based on the tone and tenor of what is being said here, I think I need to ask whether the issue is not just that I am posting excerpts.

Are you stupid?

Look at all of your supporters asking the real FReepers to click on your MySpace page.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt but you failed.

29 posted on 06/03/2011 8:10:17 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: shibumi

Yes, I did read the links. There are a number of other issues they raise beyond what you’ve pointed out so far, and I will be very interested in what the site administrators say. I hope it’s obvious that I will do what the owners want, and you may have noted that I have posted no more articles on Free Republic since this issue began.

Responding to your other question, “Who gave you the impression that FreeRepublic was a “news aggregator?”(sic)”

A “news aggregator” is a site which contains links to large numbers of news sources and puts them all in one place. Some aggregators such as Google News track all sorts of news; other aggregators are manually run and focus on narrower topics.

Free Republic does many different things but collecting lots of news articles which are of interest to conservatives is one of the things it does.

I happen to think that’s something really good.


30 posted on 06/03/2011 8:10:46 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: Eaker

Eaker wrote: “Are you stupid? Look at all of your supporters asking the real FReepers to click on your MySpace page. I gave you the benefit of the doubt but you failed.”

Eaker, I truly have no idea what you are talking about. I do not have a MySpace page.


31 posted on 06/03/2011 8:13:18 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina; humblegunner; Eaker; shibumi; Larry Lucido; TheOldLady; 50mm; Allegra; ...
As I said a moment ago to another critic, if people on Free Republic want me to comment more on other people’s posts, that can easily be done.

Nobody gives crap about your opinion or "want" you to comment. We just don't want you to call yourself a FReeper when you are just a blog pimp.

Damn boy are you really THIS dumb? Pulaski County apparently still has its idiot.

32 posted on 06/03/2011 8:18:34 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: darrellmaurina

You really are that stupid.

I will type this slowly ...

Your blog is the same as a MySpace page because your entire goal is to get people to look at it.

Nothing else.


33 posted on 06/03/2011 8:27:09 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: darrellmaurina

Let’s cut the crap.

All we’re asking is that you post your work in full, right here.

You obviously can include a link to your blog/newspaper/MySpace/FaceBook/deviantart page or wherever the work originated. In the posting procedure, you put that in “source.” It’s really simple.

It’s a plus if you become a part of this sometimes contentious, slightly acerbic community by posting once in a while and letting the rest of us get to know you, but a guy with a self-proclaimed “thick skin” shouldn’t have a problem with that.

You do that, and not only will no one hassle you, but if they should dare, we’ll all spring to your defense.

Well... some of us will.

Or not.

Maybe if it’s a slow day.


34 posted on 06/03/2011 8:27:36 PM PDT by shibumi (Ego Nunquam Ubi Sub Ubi!)
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To: darrellmaurina
Aw......now darrell, we all hate to see you go away with your butt hurting so badly, so let me give you a hand, OK?

Print this form out, and then take some time to fill it out completely. Use both sides if you need to, and please be a specific as you can be.

When you are done, re-scan the form and PM it to a very good friend of mine here at free republic, who goes by the screen name "Admin Moderator". Let him/her know exactly what is troubling you, and be sure to name names. I know that Admin Moderator will be eager to hear all of your complaints and criticisms, so be specific.

If you make a good enough case, maybe Admin Moderator will reprimand those big meanie pants who have put you through so much personal stress on this thread. If you make a really, really good case, Admin Moderator might banish those big old meanies.

Good luck, and ultimately, adieu...






35 posted on 06/03/2011 8:32:28 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Your what hurts??)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Indeed. This one is slippery too.


36 posted on 06/03/2011 8:34:18 PM PDT by TheOldLady (Freepmail me to get on or off the ZOT Lightning ping list.)
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To: humblegunner; Eaker; shibumi; Larry Lucido; TheOldLady; 50mm; Allegra

DTM wrote: “As I said a moment ago to another critic, if people on Free Republic want me to comment more on other people’s posts, that can easily be done.”

Eaker wrote: “Nobody gives crap about your opinion or ‘want’ you to comment. We just don’t want you to call yourself a FReeper when you are just a blog pimp. Damn boy are you really THIS dumb? Pulaski County apparently still has its idiot.”

Okay, Eaker, it’s important that I respond to you politely and not using your tone.

First I get accused of not commenting enough on other people’s posts on Free Republic. I explained that while I read a lot, I only rarely comment on news articles on toher people’s news sites unless I think I have something to say that isn’t being said by others.

Then it was pointed out that the Admin links say that “I have no complaint if a good conservative blogger posts his own material to FR, not as an excerpt to drive hits and discussion back to his blog, but rather to impart useful information to OUR readers and to promote and join in on the discussion and conservative activism HERE on FR.”

That’s legitimate. Rules are rules and owners make the rules. Furthermore, I have never been interested in driving hits from Free Republic to the Pulaski County Daily News, nor has that been a major source of traffic. I have no problem with having discussions happen here. Why would I object to that?

However, now I’m being told that I am “stupid” and an “idiot” for quoting back to you what the Administrators themselves wrote.

Eaker, I truly don’t know what prompted this uproar this week. I’m not doing anything here that I haven’t been doing for three years. I am paying a great deal of attention to the Admin posts, and reading through literally hundreds of responses to them to understand what the owners of Free Republic want, but I’m not sure accusations of being stupid or idiotic help you make your case.

Another quote from the Admin link that I was given: “Are the Pimp Busters mods or have any official power? No. They are members like any other.”

Perhaps that quote will carry some weight. I’m listening to you, but accusing me of being stupid when all I’m doing quoting official Free Republic position statements and trying to follow them — including the “As always, it is best to just ask” comment — is not helping either of us.

Can we turn down the volume a little bit? I think you’d find I can be quite reasonable and am neither stupid nor an idiot.


37 posted on 06/03/2011 8:44:03 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina
Can we turn down the volume a little bit? I think you’d find I can be quite reasonable and am neither stupid nor an idiot.

Don't excerpt.

Got it now?

38 posted on 06/03/2011 8:57:04 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: Bean Counter

Beancounter wrote: “If you make a good enough case, maybe Admin Moderator will reprimand those big meanie pants who have put you through so much personal stress on this thread. If you make a really, really good case, Admin Moderator might banish those big old meanies. Good luck, and ultimately, adieu...”

I’ve seen another version of this “butthurt” post and I think it’s funny.

You don’t know me and I don’t know you, and I realize it’s entirely possible I’m talking to a Free Republic moderator here, either you or one of the others posting. If you did know me, you’d know why I would never scream “personal stress” or accuse somebody of being “meanie pants.” I live and work in a fairly small community and I have to deal constantly with people asking me to keep so-and-sos name out of the media despite their criminal convictions or drunk driving or whatever. I tell them all, “no dice.” Laws are laws, rules are rules, and if you break them, and you’re a public figure or public official, you’re going to have the publicity that you deserve. I’m the one who people scream is being “mean,” not the one doing the screaming about others being mean.

If Free Republic policy is that people need to post articles in full, I will comply. I’ve said that repeatedly. I’ve been reading the Admin posts and it looks like that’s probably what I need to do. If I’d been asked nicely, that would be the end of the issue.

I hope it’s not terribly difficult to understand why, if I’ve been doing something for nearly three years with only one prior objection I can find until now, I need to make sure I understand the rules before doing something different.

In the meantime, can we all calm down a bit here?


39 posted on 06/03/2011 9:00:37 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina
If I’d been asked nicely, that would be the end of the issue.

Please quit being a Blog Pimp. There, done.

I hope it’s not terribly difficult to understand why, if I’ve been doing something for nearly three years with only one prior objection I can find until now.

Fisherman to fish, "I caught you because it just wasn't your day." You are caught and we hates us some pimps.

40 posted on 06/03/2011 9:20:00 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: darrellmaurina
"In the meantime, can we all calm down a bit here?"

I am perfectly capable of being rude, insulting, obnoxious and irritating all while maintaining a pulse rate in the low sixties and blood pressure under 130/70.

Despite my outre' size and indulgent lifestyle.
41 posted on 06/03/2011 9:24:41 PM PDT by shibumi (Ego Nunquam Ubi Sub Ubi!)
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To: darrellmaurina; humblegunner; Eaker; Allegra; Salamander; TheOldLady; ...
Remain calm!



All is well!


42 posted on 06/03/2011 10:28:24 PM PDT by shibumi (Ego Nunquam Ubi Sub Ubi!)
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To: shibumi
Remain calm!

And civil.

Don't forget civil

43 posted on 06/03/2011 10:33:51 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Vlad Tepes was a piker.)
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To: humblegunner

Five trackers, *34* cookies...and that’s just from clicking the initial link.


44 posted on 06/03/2011 11:45:18 PM PDT by Salamander (FREE* LAZ! [*with purchase of FReeper of equal or greater value. Some restrictions may apply.])
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To: Salamander; humblegunner; darrellmaurina
"Five trackers, *34* cookies...and that’s just from clicking the initial link."

Icky ! Icky ! P'Tang ! KneeeeeeWhong!

I feel like I need to give the old system an enema just from being on this thread!

OK Mr. Darrell (Everybody just stay calm) Maurina, is ~this~ why you want to excerpt your stuff? Do your regular local readers know about all the crap you're loading on their machines with each click?

This, my friend is one of the BIG reasons we like to have stuff posted here.

45 posted on 06/04/2011 12:15:42 AM PDT by shibumi (Ego Nunquam Ubi Sub Ubi!)
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To: Salamander
Salamander wrote: “Five trackers, *34* cookies...and that’s just from clicking the initial link.”

This is the first I knew about this.

Our web hosting provider is the same one used by a number of other newspapers in Missouri, Kentucky and Tennessee. While cookies have become a standard part of the web, I have nothing to do with the mechanics of how our web hosting company runs its operations.

Please alert me if any of those cookies or trackers turn out to be problematic. Again, while the presence of cookies is not a surprise to me, this is the first time anyone has raised the issue. If there is a problem I can raise the issue with our web hosting company.

46 posted on 06/04/2011 12:18:29 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina
"Please alert me if any of those cookies or trackers turn out to be problematic. Again, while the presence of cookies is not a surprise to me, this is the first time anyone has raised the issue. If there is a problem I can raise the issue with our web hosting company. "

(Beating a really, really dead horse.) If you would just post full content, none of this would be an issue or a problem, now would it?
47 posted on 06/04/2011 12:36:19 AM PDT by shibumi (Ego Nunquam Ubi Sub Ubi!)
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To: shibumi
shibumi wrote: OK Mr. Darrell (Everybody just stay calm) Maurina, is ~this~ why you want to excerpt your stuff? Do your regular local readers know about all the crap you're loading on their machines with each click? This, my friend is one of the BIG reasons we like to have stuff posted here.

OK, Shibumi, I appreciate the change in tone. Also, you and Salamander got my attention here. I had no idea.

I understand the implications of internet privacy. I can assure you that whatever those cookies are doing, I'm not getting any sort of report from my web hosting provider about them... and I'm quite sure if they were using that info to track viewers, they'd be offering the information to us at a fee so we could use it to provide targeted ads (which we don't do, by the way).

My guess without knowing is that these cookies are purely mechanical in nature to make the graphics on the site work since we have not enabled any of the features such as requesting people to input their zip code which would allow any sort of identification of readers or their location. There is an option to register, but because the commenting engine is on a separate website, www.pulaskicountyweb.com, there is no need to register and most readers do not do so.

As websites have become more and more graphics-intensive, it's become necessary to put more and more “stuff” on them to make them work. I'm not happy about that. In addition to privacy concerns, this is rural America, lots of people still use dialup, and anything that slows down a site for dialup customers is a problem.

We also don't do targeted ads, as many newspaper websites will, based on items in the browser history. I check my cookies periodically and since I spend a lot of time on newspaper and television station websites, there's always a long, long list. Targeted internet advertising is something we simply have not chosen to do, and I don't think our software is even able to do it without buying an upgraded web hosting plan. Personally I see no economic benefit in that level of tracking, and even if I saw an economic benefit I do not think I would want to do it.

48 posted on 06/04/2011 12:45:22 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: shibumi
Shibumi wrote: “(Beating a really, really dead horse.) If you would just post full content, none of this would be an issue or a problem, now would it?”

I have said repeatedly that if this website wants full content posted, while that is a highly unusual request, it will be followed. The owners have the right to set the rules. Your links have pretty much convinced me that is what the owners of this site want, but there's more to what Jim Robinson and Admin Moderator said in those links than just the issue of posting full text articles.

I have a private message in to the site owner and admin moderator asking for clarification not only on this but also on several other items. I'm still in the process of reading nearly a thousand comments on the two links you posted. There are several other issues in the comments by the Admin Moderator and Jim Robinson that could become issues besides the ones that you and several other people raised.

You don't know me, but I'm an i-dotter and t-crosser. Now that I know a rule exists I want to make sure I understand it.

49 posted on 06/04/2011 12:56:15 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina



So just post full content - OK?

50 posted on 06/04/2011 12:58:22 AM PDT by shibumi (Ego Nunquam Ubi Sub Ubi!)
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