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73-year-old man guns down 5 in southwest Arizona, kills self
.cnn.com ^ | 6/2/2011 | CNN

Posted on 06/02/2011 3:58:17 PM PDT by dragnet2

A 73-year-old man shot dead five people around Yuma, Arizona, before turning a gun on himself, police said.

Another victim was flown about 180 miles northeast to a Phoenix-area hospital after being seriously injured, Yuma Police Sgt. Clint Norred said in a joint press release with the Yuma County Sheriff's Office.

According to Yuma police, an "elderly male" went into a business in the city limits and shot an adult male. Police Chief Jerry Geier later identified this victim as Jerrold Shelley, a local attorney.

The four others were killed in greater Yuma County, where the other person was injured, according to Yuma Police Officer Cruz Vidal.

Police determined that these shootings were linked and identified the suspect as Carey Hal Dyess, a 73-year-old Yuma man.

Around 11:30 a.m., Yuma County sheriff's deputies found Dyess dead off U.S. Highway 95 in Blaisdell, a community east of Yuma. He died from "what appears to be ... a self-inflicted gunshot wound," police said.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arizona; executioner; judge; jury; meanoldman

1 posted on 06/02/2011 3:58:23 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/06/02/arizona.shootings/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn


2 posted on 06/02/2011 3:59:15 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: dragnet2

Glad he did not kill anybody important.


3 posted on 06/02/2011 4:00:57 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: dragnet2

I think WTF? qualifies here.


4 posted on 06/02/2011 4:01:01 PM PDT by allmost
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To: dragnet2

WT_? Any Arizona Freepers out there know what this is about?


5 posted on 06/02/2011 4:04:16 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: dragnet2

http://tucsoncitizen.com/usa-today-news/2011/06/02/police-5-killed-in-shootings-in-arizona/

here’s some more info.


6 posted on 06/02/2011 4:06:17 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: dragnet2

is this Sheriff Dumbrick’s area?


7 posted on 06/02/2011 4:07:44 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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Why would an old man kill a lawyer?

Did he spend most of his life in prison?

How were the other victims connected?


8 posted on 06/02/2011 4:08:28 PM PDT by ChuteTheMall (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: dragnet2

Trying to think of the ol’ saw that goes something like this... if you mess with an old person they’ll just kill you. Not justifying anything as my awareness of the facts are limited to what I read in the thread. In the same vein, old people are also far more successful in their suicide attempts than the youngsters are by a wide margin. Old fogeys don’t play.


9 posted on 06/02/2011 4:09:00 PM PDT by freepersup (Today, we raise our glasses of spirits and mugs of ale high- to Budge.)
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To: dragnet2

Looks like a case of “settling old debts” with finality.


10 posted on 06/02/2011 4:11:46 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: dragnet2

Dyess under duress.... Dang.


11 posted on 06/02/2011 4:11:56 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Looks like he was just driving around, shooting people to death.

>>>Old white guy was mentioned<<<

Boy, that didn’t take any time to give a description of the shooter.

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Meanwhile, reports of other shooting victims had come into the sheriff’s office from different locations in the county.

“We concluded all the shootings were likely related,” Geier said.

By 10 a.m. local time, police had identified the shooter, Hyland said.

“We knew what the suspect looked like. They knew what he was driving — a PT Cruiser,” Hyland said. Police looked for “an old white guy wearing a green shirt.”

The city locked down schools and sent extra police patrols to City Hall.


12 posted on 06/02/2011 4:14:35 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Cpl. David Rodriguez, of the Wellton Police Department, added that the shootings were connected to a divorce gone bad.

Here's the link to story in our local paper:

http://www.yumasun.com/news/sheriff-70412-wellton-county.html

13 posted on 06/02/2011 4:15:35 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: ChuteTheMall

“Why would an old man kill a lawyer?”

The article linked at #6 indicates it was a divorce issue.

Maybe the attorney was his wife’s lawyer?


14 posted on 06/02/2011 4:16:25 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: WOBBLY BOB

No, we have our own Yuma county sheriff.


15 posted on 06/02/2011 4:16:32 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: dragnet2

It seems statistically odd that a 73 year old would go on a killing spree.


16 posted on 06/02/2011 4:17:21 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: dragnet2

Dyess shot a divorce attorney multiple times. He told the deceaseds’ secretary to either leave or get down, prior to shooting the attorney.


17 posted on 06/02/2011 4:17:50 PM PDT by freepersup (Today, we raise our glasses of spirits and mugs of ale high- to Budge.)
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To: ChuteTheMall

Cpl. David Rodriguez, of the Wellton Police Department, added that the shootings were connected to a divorce gone bad.


18 posted on 06/02/2011 4:17:53 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: pfflier

“divorce gone bad”

No reasonable man would justify this. Though if this is about divorce I’m not shocked. Liberal society has made divorce such an easy option. With the huge number of men whose lives are ripped apart every day, I’m actually quite surprised a lot more don’t do something very foolish like this.


19 posted on 06/02/2011 4:20:22 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: dragnet2

After a hard day in Yuma Dyess felt just shot!


20 posted on 06/02/2011 4:20:39 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: dragnet2
The city locked down schools and sent extra police patrols to City Hall.

Hmmm

21 posted on 06/02/2011 4:21:25 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: Rebelbase

That’s the first thing I thought when I heard a lawyer was shot. That, or a custody case.


22 posted on 06/02/2011 4:22:07 PM PDT by GnuHere
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To: dragnet2

Court records show Dyess was involved in two civil court cases, one in Yuma and one in nearby Wellton.

source:

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/police-ariz-man-kills-965584.html


23 posted on 06/02/2011 4:23:01 PM PDT by freepersup (Today, we raise our glasses of spirits and mugs of ale high- to Budge.)
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To: dragnet2

Being a lawyer can be a little hectic.

24 posted on 06/02/2011 4:25:01 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: freepersup

Looks like Dyess took out the people he was involved with regarding two or more civil cases.


25 posted on 06/02/2011 4:26:48 PM PDT by freepersup (Today, we raise our glasses of spirits and mugs of ale high- to Budge.)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

Most murderers, in this country, know their victims personally. That would lead me to believe this happens pretty often although the link isn’t always made.


26 posted on 06/02/2011 4:32:49 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Blood of Tyrants

d-i-v-o-r-c-e

r-e-v-e-n-g-e

Dyess’ former wife is believed to be among the four people he killed, but their identities have not yet been released.

source:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/06/5-shot-dead-in-yuma-ariz-schools-locked-down/1?csp=hf


27 posted on 06/02/2011 4:37:00 PM PDT by freepersup (Today, we raise our glasses of spirits and mugs of ale high- to Budge.)
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To: ChuteTheMall

Dyess put four rounds into the face of one of his wifes’ friends. Guessing- she might have testified against Dyess?

The first shooting occurred around 5 a.m. PT (8 a.m. ET) in Wellton, east of Yuma. The still-unidentified victim was a friend of the gunman’s ex-wife. She was shot four times in the face but “was alert and breathing” when police arrived, Wellton Police Cpl. David Rodriguez told the Sun. She was flown to a Phoenix-area hospital; her condition is not known.

source:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/06/5-shot-dead-in-yuma-ariz-schools-locked-down/1?csp=hf


28 posted on 06/02/2011 4:45:06 PM PDT by freepersup (Today, we raise our glasses of spirits and mugs of ale high- to Budge.)
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To: freepersup
With this economy, the courts, financial difficulties, and the level of stress today, I'd guess there are *lots* of people out there that have been pushed hard up against the wall and are becoming short fused, walking time bombs.
29 posted on 06/02/2011 4:51:16 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: dragnet2

Well all in all I think I’d rather do myself in rather than go on some crazy rampage. Divorce on the other hand makes ordinary normal people do insane things.


30 posted on 06/02/2011 5:01:56 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: dragnet2

Holy Moly - Some folks had a really, really bad day.


31 posted on 06/02/2011 5:05:56 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Soothesayer9
Divorce on the other hand makes ordinary normal people do insane things.

Oh, many would be surprised...

Most hired guns get contracted by those who were beat like a drum in court, due to divorces. No joke. Many of these people were made into life time punching bag...Some don't deal with it well.

32 posted on 06/02/2011 5:09:15 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: freepersup
Trying to think of the ol’ saw that goes something like this... if you mess with an old person they’ll just kill you.

Don't pick a fight with an old man, because if he can't fight, he'll just kill you.

33 posted on 06/02/2011 5:12:36 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: freepersup

From strictly a technical aspect, the face is a poor target. I personally know of two people shot, one in the face and the other in the forehead, that survived.


34 posted on 06/02/2011 5:17:33 PM PDT by MCF
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To: dragnet2

I understand the premise of your post- anger/frustration. In the end, self control is either there, or it isn’t, and if it’s gone, anarchy rules the day.

My ex wife and my ex friend blah blah blah and my ex in laws were complicit blah blah blah and my ex sister in law and her husband blah blah blah

I thought of some really diabolical and creative ways of torturing and in the end eliminating them, but the consequences weren’t something I wanted my name on, (especially) since I had a child to consider. Put another way, I was one disciplined individual.

Trust me when I say that I’ve been to the edge.

I was awarded custody of my son. Were I not to have been awarded custody, I may have acted foolishly.

I am being about as candid as I’ve ever been regarding this matter, which transpired over 30 years ago.

An orderly society cannot permit it’s citizens to extract revenge over perceived injustices, but it will also be hard pressed to prevent them 100% of the time.

The 2nd amendment exists for this explicit purpose.

Sounds like Dyess used an automatic with 4 shots to the face of one of his victims. I’m not condoning Dyess whatsoever, but know this, I have been just about as pissed off and angry. Scary. Tragic. Biblical. Satanic too.


35 posted on 06/02/2011 5:18:02 PM PDT by freepersup (Today, we raise our glasses of spirits and mugs of ale high- to Budge.)
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To: dragnet2

I was surprised to read 91,000 people live in Yuma. When we went through there 20 years ago, it must have been 110 in the shade. The Dairy Queen worker handed us an ice cream cone that was dripping down her arm. Just can’t imagine so many people putting up with that heat.


36 posted on 06/02/2011 5:22:27 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Moonman62

I suppose this thread will leave a lasting impression on me, especially the next time someone messes with an old fogey and I happen to be in the kill zone.


37 posted on 06/02/2011 5:23:24 PM PDT by freepersup (Today, we raise our glasses of spirits and mugs of ale high- to Budge.)
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To: freepersup
I understand the premise of your post- anger/frustration.

Anger?

There is big difference between stating brutal the facts and being angry. Ya see, I've never been divorced but fully understand what the machine can do to people.

38 posted on 06/02/2011 5:24:46 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: freepersup
I understand the premise of your post- anger/frustration.

Anger?

There is big difference between stating brutal facts and being angry. Ya see, I've never been divorced but fully understand what the machine can do to people.

39 posted on 06/02/2011 5:25:10 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: Ronald_Magnus
Last time I was in Phoenix, it was like being on the surface of Mercury....It could have melted lead.

While in the rental car, the metal seat belt latch branded my arm.

How those folks deal with it is a mystery to me.

40 posted on 06/02/2011 5:30:15 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: MCF

Poor target or not, taking 4 rounds to the face is pushing the odds a bit, don’t ya’ think? Dyess was acting from emotions and failed to eliminate this particular “target.” A professional would have double tapped center of mass- to be sure.


41 posted on 06/02/2011 5:30:25 PM PDT by freepersup (Today, we raise our glasses of spirits and mugs of ale high- to Budge.)
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To: dragnet2

I think we both are saying the same thing, but the route to the conclusion differs. One is from the first person experience and one is from the observer / wise yoda position. ;0) Either way, somebody snapped AGAIN! Like Squantos’ tagline says: (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)


42 posted on 06/02/2011 5:46:04 PM PDT by freepersup (Today, we raise our glasses of spirits and mugs of ale high- to Budge.)
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To: spodefly

Life in jail would not be a real long sentence and you would get free medical. And no bills. LOL.


43 posted on 06/02/2011 5:50:06 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Ronald_Magnus

In the winter the population swells to closer to 200,000 when the snowbirds arrive.


44 posted on 06/02/2011 7:02:43 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: dragnet2

“....identified this victim as Jerrold Shelley, a local attorney.”

Well, that’s a plausible motive right there. I’m surprised it does not happen more often.


45 posted on 06/02/2011 10:50:00 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: TexasRepublic

Well...You could be right!

They go after people for a living...Some days they eat bear...Other days the bear eats them.


46 posted on 06/03/2011 3:00:55 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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