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Alabama Passes Mandatory E-Verify & Immigration Enforcement Bill
NumbersUSA ^ | 6/3/2011 | lwoodham

Posted on 06/03/2011 10:10:03 PM PDT by lwoodham

Alabama Passes Mandatory E-Verify & Immigration Enforcement Bill

Friday, June 3, 2011, 1:25 PM EDT

An Alabama House and Senate conference committee agreed on a new bill, which both chambers have already passed, that requires the use of E-Verify by all businesses in the state and includes several immigration enforcement provisions. Should Gov. Robert Bentley sign the bill into law, it would become one of the largest state crackdowns on illegal immigration in the country.

The bill requires all businesses, public and private, to begin using E-Verify effective April 1, 2012. Businesses that do not comply face suspension of its business license and loss of employee expensing for state income tax purposes. All state and local businesses must be in compliance by Jan. 1, 2012 or face loss of business license and contract.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: alabama; aliens; backgroundcheck; business; contract; employee; enforcement; everify; illegal; illegalaliens; immigration; license; private; public; senate; statesrights
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1 posted on 06/03/2011 10:10:04 PM PDT by lwoodham
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To: lwoodham

Great! Now all the criminal ‘immigrants’ will be squeezed out into the surrounding states, namely Texas! And we don’t currently have the gonads to do anything about it.


2 posted on 06/03/2011 10:15:16 PM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: lwoodham

Didnt know there was a problem with illegals in Alabama. Must be pretty bad if they are resorting to this.


3 posted on 06/03/2011 10:52:30 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: fwdude

So letting illegals use emergency rooms, letting them buy property, educating their children for free, and hamstringing businesses with more regulations and reporting requirements.

As usual, backasswards.


4 posted on 06/03/2011 11:09:35 PM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: DariusBane

If you can’t work you can do any of those other things. This in every state would be incredibly effective.


5 posted on 06/03/2011 11:30:54 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Have no fear "President Government" is here)
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To: DariusBane

>> So letting illegals use emergency rooms, letting them buy property, educating their children for free, and hamstringing businesses with more regulations and reporting requirements. <<

How do you propose preventing illegals from doing anything if you don’t require anyone to confirm that they’re not illegal? You want to be lying bleeding in a hospital while the hospital runs your I-9s? And, no, you can’t buy property anymore if you’re an illegal, now that Fannie Mae is in such big trouble... unless you want to pay cash. And I’m pretty sure you’d attract some federal interest if you paid for a home with $200,000 cash.


6 posted on 06/03/2011 11:37:05 PM PDT by dangus
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To: lwoodham; Liz; stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs; DoughtyOne
Hope Al. has better luck with DHS than S Carolina.

Nikki Haley: My labor secretary was told the end of April we could not enforce our legal immigration laws. We got on the phone with secretary Napolitano's office. We've repeatedly made phone calls, and the Obama administration did not respond.

7 posted on 06/04/2011 12:10:56 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: lwoodham; fwdude; Soothesayer9; DariusBane; Rick_Michael; dangus; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; ...

This is an utterly wonderful development. At long last these illegals won’t be able to move freely among us, taking our jobs, filling our schools and hospitals, and fill our jails from commiting crimes. Background checks will enable the businesses to root out the frauds from the real citizens and it’ll be perfect. Now if only we could introduce this system for welfare recipients, determine who is and isn’t eligible or a citizen. And for our schools in regards to enrollment and who deserves scholarships and then who knows what else. Even other countries could use this to ensure that citizens and not illegals get jobs, or government assistance. Good on Alabama for passing this.


8 posted on 06/04/2011 1:33:20 AM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Soothesayer9

It’s all over the place really.


9 posted on 06/04/2011 1:34:10 AM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: dangus

I think this program will actually simplify running businesses and doing background checks; E-Verify will actually streamline a lot of things and eliminate substantial amounts of paperwork.


10 posted on 06/04/2011 1:36:25 AM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: lwoodham

The Obama Administration is pandering to the Mexican
Government by not ENFORCING THE LAW.


11 posted on 06/04/2011 2:47:38 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

It ain’t over ‘till it’s over.


12 posted on 06/04/2011 4:54:23 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: lwoodham

One more log on the 10th amendment show down fire. It’s coming sooner than later and if Obama is stupid enough to push it now the showdown will happen next year. Anybody really believe Kennedy will flush his own legacy down the toilet by declaring the 10th amendment unconstitutional to help Obama?


13 posted on 06/04/2011 5:07:56 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: DariusBane
As usual, backasswards.

Wrong. Shut off the job magnet and the lawbreakers will leave along with their families.

14 posted on 06/04/2011 5:37:37 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Soothesayer9
I'm a manufacturer who sells to home builders and general contractors in Alabama. When we make a delivery to a job site, more often than not, no can speak a word of English to instruct my driver where to unload our product. Folks I've done business with for two decades (framers, sheetrock hangers, roofers, block/brick masons etc.) who play by the rules (workman's comp, general liability, matching FICA) can't meet the dirt cheap wages being paid to these workers. Many have given up and gone out of business.

I pray Bentley signs this quickly.

15 posted on 06/04/2011 5:52:34 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: kabar

What do you mean wrong? You said what I said.


16 posted on 06/04/2011 5:55:56 AM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: lwoodham
E-Verify means every American will have to be in the government database, and every American will have to get clearance from a government bureaucrat to work.

All because the politicians won't enforce the border or preserve the rule of law.

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

17 posted on 06/04/2011 5:56:30 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Some of us still 'hold these truths to be self-evident'..Enough to save the country? Time will tell.)
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To: Rick_Michael

My problem is it puts the burden on the buisness owner while still extending medical benefits, free education, property rights,etc.


18 posted on 06/04/2011 6:00:02 AM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: fwdude

There is still illegal immigration legislation being introduced in the special session.

Time will tell.


19 posted on 06/04/2011 6:00:06 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: DariusBane
So letting illegals use emergency rooms, letting them buy property, educating their children for free, and hamstringing businesses with more regulations and reporting requirements.

Hamstring my ass. It is against the law to hire illegal aliens and it is against the law for illegal aliens to work. E-Verify is a tool to help the employer, not hamstring him.

20 posted on 06/04/2011 6:05:53 AM PDT by kabar
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To: wolfcreek
There is still illegal immigration legislation being introduced in the special session.

But it's pretty weak. Correct any misunderstanding I have, but isn't it just the prohibition of sanctuary cities that's being proposed? I hope SOMETHING passes, but I can't see Texas doing what Alabama did anytime soon, not with their supermajorities in both houses capitulating to the Democrats so often. Inexcusable.

21 posted on 06/04/2011 6:07:08 AM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: EternalVigilance
E-Verify means every American will have to be in the government database, and every American will have to get clearance from a government bureaucrat to work.

That is not the way E-Verify works. E-Verify is an electronic program through which employers verify the employment eligibility of their employees after hire. The program was authorized by the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (IIRIRA). In short, employers submit information taken from a new hire's Form I-9 (Employment Eligibility Verification Form) through E-Verify to the Social Security Administration and U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) to determine whether the information matches government records and whether the new hire is authorized to work in the United States.

The employer just submits the new hire's SSN into the system and gets a response within seconds. If there are mismatches, then it is up to the new hire to resolve them within a specificed time frame. Only 1.7% of new hires receive mismatches. And of those 1.7% mismatches, 1.43% are not found work authorized. And of the 1.43%, 1.3 percent of employees who receive initial mismatches do not contest the mismatch.

The databases used to check E-Verify entries are already in existence. Americans don't have to get clearance from a government bureaucrat to work.


22 posted on 06/04/2011 6:21:03 AM PDT by kabar
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To: fwdude

Yes, sanctuary cities ban.

I too, wish they would pass harsher measures.


23 posted on 06/04/2011 6:26:34 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Quilla

Another reason I’m so happy I left Illinois for Alabama 2 years ago. Sign this bill quickly Governor Bentley!

I’ve noticed the same thing you have experienced, especially in the landscpaing business.

I hope your business picks up after this passes.
Keep us all posted on the developments and changes you see.


24 posted on 06/04/2011 6:27:04 AM PDT by sillsfan (Reagan and Sarah are right- WE win, they lose!)
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To: kabar

I don’t think you’re thinking things through.


25 posted on 06/04/2011 6:47:55 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Some of us still 'hold these truths to be self-evident'..Enough to save the country? Time will tell.)
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To: kabar
authorized to work in the United States

Think long and hard about just exactly what those words really mean.

26 posted on 06/04/2011 6:49:30 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Some of us still 'hold these truths to be self-evident'..Enough to save the country? Time will tell.)
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To: EternalVigilance

LOL. I have thought it through. 8 million illegal aliens holding jobs while 23 million Americans are looking for fulltime jobs. In addition to securing the border, we need to shut off the job magnet and track down and deport visa overstays, which make up more than 40% of the illegal alien population estimated to be 12 to 20 million.


27 posted on 06/04/2011 6:52:40 AM PDT by kabar
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To: EternalVigilance

It is illegal to hire someone who is illegally in this country and it is illegal for someone to work in this country who is not here legally and authorized to do so. That is the law. Either we abide by the Rule of Law or we do not.


28 posted on 06/04/2011 6:57:02 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
Hamstring my ass. It is against the law to hire illegal aliens and it is against the law for illegal aliens to work. E-Verify is a tool to help the employer, not hamstring him.

Exactly. I have an I-9 on everyone who has ever worked with me since I incorporated in 1988. I check their identification and we both sign the form under penality of perjury. Everyone. Although, it's pretty easy to verify someone who walks into my office and says, "How you doin' this mornin' ma'am?"

29 posted on 06/04/2011 7:01:28 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: sillsfan
I hope your business picks up after this passes.

Thank you. It's been a tough three-year struggle just keeping the doors open.

30 posted on 06/04/2011 7:05:29 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: kabar

So, because the politicians in both parties have refused to secure the borders and enforce the law, you’re backing a program that will force every American to get permission from the government to work. Brilliant plan. /s


31 posted on 06/04/2011 7:09:51 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Some of us still 'hold these truths to be self-evident'..Enough to save the country? Time will tell.)
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To: Soothesayer9

“Resorting” to what? All Alabama is doing is enforcing current illegal immigrant law. In other words its doing what the Fed govt is paid paid to do, should do, but refuses to do.


32 posted on 06/04/2011 7:17:05 AM PDT by dools0007world
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To: kabar

Yes it is against the law to hire illegals. Well sort of. Since illegals are not prosecuted for document fraud it’s kind of a joke.

Maybe it’s a good thing I don’t know.

BUT, as long as they can get welfare, medical care education and buy property it’s kind of stop gap isn’t it?

As a small business owner, I am exhausted by having to collect and report sales taxes, give a quarterly accounting for tax purposes, and an annual anal exam. I am sick of impact fees. I am sick of requirements to post this poster or that piece of paper. I am sick of permits. I am sick of having to perform proskynesis to the proxy’s of my neighbors, the politicians they hire to interfere with my way of life.

Let’s just bring back King George. I would rather have a tyrant on the other side of the Atlantic than have this Athenian style democracy where the tyrant lives next door and drives a minivan.


33 posted on 06/04/2011 7:20:52 AM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: EternalVigilance
I explained to you what the E-Verify program does and doesn't do. I provided you with statistical data. It is a tool to help us enforce existing law using existing databases. It is still a voluntary program in most of the US. States like Arizona and Alabama have made it mandatory. It is a state decision and it is used only for new hires. You must be hired before your SSN is checked. This protects American jobs and forces the illegals to leave. AZ has seen a reduction of 18% of its illegal alien population since the introduction of its law in 2007 that was just found constitutional by SCOTUS.

You must present identity documents to get a driver's license, cash a check, etc. There are 12 to 20 million illegal aliens in our midst. If the politicians in both parties have refused to secure our borders and enforce the law and suffered no political consequences, then I blame the people. They get the government they deserve.

34 posted on 06/04/2011 7:25:57 AM PDT by kabar
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To: DariusBane
Yes it is against the law to hire illegals. Well sort of. Since illegals are not prosecuted for document fraud it’s kind of a joke.

Sort of? Illegals are not being prosecuted for a host of crimes beginning with entering this country illegally. Add to that ID theft, working illegally, tax evasion, etc. It is no joke when 8 million illegals are working while 23 million Americans are looking for fulltime employment.

BUT, as long as they can get welfare, medical care education and buy property it’s kind of stop gap isn’t it?

They can't get those benefits legally except for ER care and K-12 education, both the results of SOTUS decisions. Of course, the 300,000 to 400,000 anchor babies born each year (one out of ever 10 births in the US) are entitled to all the benefits and entitlements of US citizens whether it is food stamps, Medicaid, or the right to vote once they reach 18. They are US citizens thru birthright citizenship.

As a small business owner, I am exhausted by having to collect and report sales taxes, give a quarterly accounting for tax purposes, and an annual anal exam. I am sick of impact fees. I am sick of requirements to post this poster or that piece of paper. I am sick of permits. I am sick of having to perform proskynesis to the proxy’s of my neighbors, the politicians they hire to interfere with my way of life.

Get informed, involved, and engaged in the political process thru political parties, the Tea Party, or other movements to change the political climate and culture. The Left has done that for decades, which is why we have the current system. You can either stand on the side of liberty or tyranny. If you choose tyranny, then stop complaining.

35 posted on 06/04/2011 7:39:02 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
It is still a voluntary program in most of the US. States like Arizona and Alabama have made it mandatory.

Those of us who have actually thought this through always knew that was a great camel's nose in the tent. Seems to be working quite well, as intended, to gradually make it mandatory.

36 posted on 06/04/2011 7:44:08 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Some of us still 'hold these truths to be self-evident'..Enough to save the country? Time will tell.)
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To: kabar; EternalVigilance
It is a tool to help us enforce existing law using existing databases.

It is indeed a powerful tool. It is also a POWER not enumerated in the Constitution. Power can be misused. What EV is telling you is that instituting the POWER is a dangerous thing. There are better ways to get rid of illegals that are proven to work.

Bounty systems can be so effective they were used to eradicate passenger pigeons to the point of extinction. All that would have to be done is to put a $5,000 bounty on an illegal turned in and deported with a $25,000 penalty on legal immigrants or citizens illegally detained. I promise you, in this job market they would be gone so fast it would scare you.

No, we do not need and should not institute E-Verify. A tool that can be misused to control employment is a very dangerous POWER to put in the hands of the Federal government.

37 posted on 06/04/2011 7:47:42 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (If term limits really worked, California would have a responsible legislature.)
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To: sillsfan
I hope your business picks up after this passes.

Thank you. It's been a tough three-year struggle just keeping the doors open.

38 posted on 06/04/2011 7:47:46 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: kabar

I am involved. I am informed. I am also like Custer at Little Bighorn.

Trying to bring back the concepts of national sovereignty, freedom, liberty is like pushing string through a pipe. Herding cats.

To sell a new form of tyranny, all a politician has to do is invoke safety or children and stupid villagers will cut off there own arms and eat them to end hunger.

The Constitution, it’s enumerated powers was set up to limit the damage caused by the ignorant feckless public and the purposeful exploitative politicians. But since we don’t use that document anymore we are screwed. screwed by apathy. Screwed by people who want to harness the full power and force of government to make sure that safety is mandated. So “Safety, and Justice for All” is the new model for this dying and feckless vapor of it’s former greatness.


39 posted on 06/04/2011 7:52:42 AM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: moonshinner_09

‘not ENFORCING THE LAW’ should be grounds for impeachment
especially when it comes to security.

No they would rather fondle little kids and women.


40 posted on 06/04/2011 7:54:23 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (VOTE out the RATS! Go Sarah!)
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To: lwoodham

Less than seven months after breaking a 140-year Democrat stranglehold on the statehouse. Finally: progress in Montgomery.


41 posted on 06/04/2011 7:57:55 AM PDT by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: DariusBane

Isn’t that their intention—to make you sick enough to quit and become government dependent—or maybe a democRAT donor with exceptions and waivers?


42 posted on 06/04/2011 8:04:31 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (VOTE out the RATS! Go Sarah!)
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To: EternalVigilance

I am doing everything I can to get it mandatory in VA. We are either a nation of laws or we are not.


43 posted on 06/04/2011 8:13:10 AM PDT by kabar
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To: TribalPrincess2U

I think most people are motivated by the desire for order and goodness.

Public schools. Most people spend their formative years, 18 years in a highly controlled, safe, predictable environment. The bell rings, it’s time to go to class. Bell rings, move to another class. Bell rings, time to eat. Bell rings, time to sit. Bell rings time to stand up. All very predictable. Very orderly. Textbooks are created to spoon feed information. WWII might have a page and half. Textbooks have little chapter quizzes that follow sequentially the text. All predictable, controlled and orderly. The chapter quizzes, predictably create the basis for the mid term exam, and the final exam.

So these little sheeple get out of school. What do they demand? The demand order. They demand safety. They demand predictability and risk aversion. These little sheeple will give up anything to feel safe. They will bleat for seat belt laws and speed traps. They will bleat for for free health care and a financial safety net. They will bring cops, guns, tasers and boots onto your head if they think order, safety and predictability is at risk.

Most importantly, they want the means to control others to secure the predictable orderly environment they demand.


44 posted on 06/04/2011 8:23:41 AM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: Carry_Okie
No, we do not need and should not institute E-Verify. A tool that can be misused to control employment is a very dangerous POWER to put in the hands of the Federal government.

You don't understand how the E-Verify program works. It has nothing to do with controlling employment. It has to do with enforcing the laws of this nation and protecting American jobs.

Bounty systems can be so effective they were used to eradicate passenger pigeons to the point of extinction. All that would have to be done is to put a $5,000 bounty on an illegal turned in and deported with a $25,000 penalty on legal immigrants or citizens illegally detained. I promise you, in this job market they would be gone so fast it would scare you.

Yeah, that's the ticket. Resort to what amounts to legal vigilantism. There are over 40 million foreign born in this country, most of them here legally. And exactly how would the bounty hunters determine who was here legally or illegally? Check their papers? This is a recipie for anarchy and divisiveness. The Nazis tried something similar with the Jews and the East Germans had a system of reporting on dissidents. Turning in one's neighbor is not the best way to deal with a problem of this magnitude. Moreover, it woiuld never be approved politically. No politician would ever support such a program nor would the American people.

45 posted on 06/04/2011 8:23:41 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
We are either a nation of laws or we are not.

Well, there's laws and there's laws. Nazi Germany was a nation of laws, too.

"We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was 'legal' and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters did in Hungary was 'illegal.'"

-- Martin Luther King, Jr., Letter from a Birmingham Jail


46 posted on 06/04/2011 8:25:15 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Some of us still 'hold these truths to be self-evident'..Enough to save the country? Time will tell.)
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To: kabar

Kabar, lets back up a little and address some real basics you are taking for granted:

“Businesses that do not comply face suspension of its business license.”

Licensing business. Really? I need a license to pursue Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? Really.

Like I said I hate the stupid village.

I hate the language: “Business that do not comply.”

Screw you piratical raiders of other peoples productivity!

All you gubment cheese eating lemmings can just go screw off! Figure out how to be productive then talk to me about licensing and compliance! SCREW OFF VILLAGE!


47 posted on 06/04/2011 8:29:04 AM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: DariusBane
So in your view the country is finished. Have you joined the Tea Party movement?

I will keep on fighting here in VA. I am actually encouraged by what is happening here. Ultimately, we deserve the kind of government we have. If our public is ignorant, feckless,a and apathetic, then we deserve to fail as a nation. We are no longer worthy of the Constitution and the vision of our Founders.

48 posted on 06/04/2011 8:29:26 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar; EternalVigilance
You don't understand how the E-Verify program works. It has nothing to do with controlling employment.

I absolutely understand how the E-Verify program is INTENDED to work. But intent is not the problem here. Power is.

Yeah, that's the ticket. Resort to what amounts to legal vigilantism.

That's right. Citizens are the ultimate in law enforcement. This crap about vigilantism is the war cry of the lawyers who have put this country in a unionized bureaucratic straitjacket. Are you one of them? If you don't trust the citizens of this country then don't ask for a jury if you are accused of a crime.

The Nazis tried something similar with the Jews and the East Germans had a system of reporting on dissidents.

It is a trick of the left to demonize people with what they actually intend. Pull this crap with me again and I'll call you out for the kind of fascist you quite apparently are. I have family who died in the holocaust. How the hell do you think they were found if it were not for citizen registries of Jews? That's what we're talking about here.

49 posted on 06/04/2011 8:30:33 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (If term limits really worked, California would have a responsible legislature.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Are you equating the enforcement of our immigration laws with the Nazi and Communist tyrannies in Germany and Hungary? I have lived in a Communist country for two years. I know the difference.


50 posted on 06/04/2011 8:37:33 AM PDT by kabar
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