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Socialism's Army of Occupation
Right Side News ^ | 6/3/2011 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 06/04/2011 5:31:35 AM PDT by IbJensen

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The central socialist government as well as our bloated state governments must be disassembled useless agency by agency. The millions that have crawled next to the teat on the sow that is today's government need to hit the streets to find a jab.

They produce nothing and this includes Congressional staffers. Further, it includes the lazy civilians who fill DOD jobs that uniformed military personnel should be filling.

1 posted on 06/04/2011 5:31:40 AM PDT by IbJensen
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The Postal Service doesn't exist to deliver mail. 80 percent of its budget goes to the salaries and benefits of its 500,000+ union members.

What are they suppose to be spending it on, new trucks?

It is a delivery service, most of it's budget will be spend on the people doing the deliveries.

There is an argument to be made here, but this is not it.

2 posted on 06/04/2011 5:41:49 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Yesterday I meditated, today I seek balance. That was Zen, this is Tao.)
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Good article, as far as it goes - the author misses, or ignores, the fact that Congress has abdicated much of its Legislative power to the bureaucracies, who can, and do, create and enforce ‘regulations’ which levy taxes and criminal sanctions, without even lip-service to ‘representation’ by the electorate....

A far more dangerous development than the venality of ‘public servants’......


3 posted on 06/04/2011 5:46:20 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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>> The millions that have crawled next to the teat on the sow that is today’s government need to hit the streets to find a jab.

Because the private sector is creating so many jobs right now???

This article is a case of someone having a good point and then taking it to the point of absurdity.

The Postal Service spends most of its money on people. Wow! What should they spend it on? Speedboats? They deliver mail. By hand. That’s a labor-intensive business.

Nurses are a welfare program? Ever spend a any time in a hospital? They work their butts off. You see nurses constantly and see a doctor for about a minute.

The auto industry sells cars so it can hire more workers and bosses can go to the Bahamas? Well, the current business model has them making less cars, getting government handouts, laying off workers, AND the bosses still go to the Bahamas.


4 posted on 06/04/2011 5:53:43 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (We don't need to win elections. We need to win a revolution.)
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To: Uncle Ike
Good article, as far as it goes - the author misses, or ignores, the fact that Congress has abdicated much of its Legislative power to the bureaucracies, who can, and do, create and enforce ‘regulations’ which levy taxes and criminal sanctions, without even lip-service to ‘representation’ by the electorate....

It is an excellent article. Note that the bureaucracies support the politicians who support them. They have unions that donate millions to get those representatives elected.

The major strength of this article is that it demolishes the myth that government is benevolent. Like it or not, that is the myth that powers socialism and fascism both.

The biggest problem that we have in this country is that a significant minority of the people worship the State as god.

5 posted on 06/04/2011 5:58:12 AM PDT by marktwain
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The Postal Service doesn't exist to deliver mail. 80 percent of its budget goes to the salaries and benefits of its 500,000+ union members.

And is GOING BANKRUPT.

So where is the logical place to start cutting...

6 posted on 06/04/2011 6:00:31 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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mark


7 posted on 06/04/2011 6:01:40 AM PDT by griswold3 (Character is destiny)
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To: Bryanw92

Sorry your bull was punctured. Keep sorting.


8 posted on 06/04/2011 6:03:59 AM PDT by IbJensen (Welfare: putting a cake under the sink expecting that it wont attract cockroaches.)
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It is my opinion that we cannot survive as a nation without outright rejection and repudiation of socialism. It is time we realize that we are at war within our own borders against socialism.

It is high time that we take the gloves off, and start shining a bright and public light on the characteristics of those in our society who think it’s perfectly fine to essentially steal from those who work.

The vast majority of people I know who have more wealth than the average, worked very hard to get it. It’s time to say FU to the leeches in society who don’t want to work, but who use their vote as a weapon to take from those who do.

I truly believe that, left to their own decision making, most Americans that have been fortunate to have good health and have their efforts pay off would voluntarily give charitably to a level that would actually provide more for the truly needy than the government supplies them.

The left, however, hates charity, because it doesn’t fit their theme of making villains out of everyone who is successful. They need a bourgeoisie to incite the masses against.


9 posted on 06/04/2011 6:06:04 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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While some of the examples might not be on point (nurses in particular), he’s got the big picture right. The idea of stated goal versus internal aims of these organization is on the mark.

I’ve noted in the past that Communism is entrepreneurship for the apparatchiks. Instead of competing with each other in the marketplace, they vie to see how much power and wealth they can extract from those who aren’t in the in-crowd.

Our system is less hierarchical than the Party was, but many of the subgroups such as SEIU or the NEA share the same features in terms of their relationship with the normal, non-organized economy. If you’re not in one of these groups, you’re fair game.

The solution? I don’t know if there is one short of collapse and rebirth, but if there is, it involves a much smaller government and legal code. The government’s job is to protect it’s citizens from groups that gang up on it; that’s why we have a military and police. But, over the past century, in the name of fairness, we’ve allowed many groups to organize against the public. To borrow a phrase from the title of Amy Shales’ book, who sticks up for the forgotten man?


10 posted on 06/04/2011 6:07:36 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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I’ve noted in the past that Communism is entrepreneurship for the apparatchiks. Instead of competing with each other in the marketplace, they vie to see how much power and wealth they can extract from those who aren’t in the in-crowd.

And they will go to any lengths to keep people from discovering that when it comes to "workers vs. parasites," they are actually the most pernicious of the latter.

Mr. niteowl77

11 posted on 06/04/2011 6:12:56 AM PDT by niteowl77 ("Born in a well? Let me see that birth certificate again!")
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Just the tragedy of the commons writ large. Back in the day there was a small pool of common money to help people who were truly in need and deliver govt. services that really were deemed essential. Sooner or later the pigs got up to the trough and said we need more slop. And more slop was given. And so it went. Now there only pigs and barely anyone to work the farm, to grow the grain, and to look after the pigs. The end result is not going to be pretty.


12 posted on 06/04/2011 6:16:04 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten (Welcome to the USA - where every day is Backwards Day!)
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Perhaps for clarity, the facts should have been related to how much is being spent on benefits, and retirement, that are unrelated to the cost of doing “business”.

What remains from the real cost of doing business, would be termed profit, and that figure tells one how much benefit and retirement money is available annually.

I did appreciate that the “business”, seems to be delivering junk mail. Not entirely true but designed to get the attention of those interested in public service issues in a down economy.


13 posted on 06/04/2011 6:16:46 AM PDT by wita
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I suggest that you look a little further than the speedboats. I would strongly suggest that you look at the amount of supervision vs workers that exist in this organization.

There are more supervisors than are required and there is no interest in servicing the customer any more.

As a CPA I have a lot of involvement with this organization because of filing deadlines and clients trying to get returns out in the mail.

THEY DO NOTHING TO FACILITATE the first corporate and individual deadlines closing at 5:00 on Mar 15th and Apr 15th. This is criminal because of how many returns are filed on those two days along. I have seen them lock the doors with people still trying to get in line to mail returns.

They need the taxes to support them but have no responsibility to help them be collected. They only serve their rules and masters, the UNION and not the PUBLIC.

I could go on and tell you more but you obviously would not miss where the speedboats come in so I will bother you no more.


14 posted on 06/04/2011 6:17:46 AM PDT by pcpa
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The most pervasive myth of the welfare state is the altruism of the public sector.

That is EXACTLY what I have been saying and what I least understand about the people of this country. This country was founded with the experiences of lack of trust in our government and it is built right into the Constitution.

15 posted on 06/04/2011 6:19:27 AM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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>> I could go on and tell you more but you obviously would not miss where the speedboats come in so I will bother you no more.

So, you wait until the last minute to file your clients taxes and the postal service employees are the bad guys for not accomodating your tardiness? I file my taxes before the deadline, so they never get to lock the door in my face.

As a taxpayer and customer, I want them to close and lock those doors at closing time so the employees can go off the clock on-time. Keeping the staff on the clock to assist people who can’t or won’t follow the rules is exactly what is wrong with the welfare state and its Army of Occupation. Your entitlement mentality is disturbing.


16 posted on 06/04/2011 6:30:27 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (We don't need to win elections. We need to win a revolution.)
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To: wita
Perhaps for clarity, the facts should have been related to how much is being spent on benefits, and retirement, that are unrelated to the cost of doing “business”.

Thank you. That is what I meant.

I did appreciate that the “business”, seems to be delivering junk mail. Not entirely true but designed to get the attention of those interested in public service issues in a down economy.

Delivering junk mail pays the bills. The USPS actually does run in the black or it did. I believe that the government just demanded that it pay a rather unreasonable sum into it's pension plan which has sent it into the red.

17 posted on 06/04/2011 6:40:29 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Yesterday I meditated, today I seek balance. That was Zen, this is Tao.)
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How much mail does a relatively young and healthy retired postal worker deliver? I believe they can retire at age 55 if they have 30 years of service. I will be lucky to retire at 65. I think that is probably the point. I am not saying that salaries for current postal worker reflect reality or anything like that, but paying the defined benefit retirement plan is probably what is killing them more than anything else. UPS and FedEx also deliver stuff but I am willing to bet that their personnel costs are considerable less than the USPS pays per employee.
18 posted on 06/04/2011 7:08:08 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: aflaak

Ping


19 posted on 06/04/2011 8:36:42 AM PDT by r-q-tek86 ("It doesn't matter how smart you are if you don't stop and think" - Dr. Sowell)
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“Further, it includes the lazy civilians who fill DOD jobs that uniformed military personnel should be filling.”

Uniformed military personnel who must be kept at combat levels of fitness and readiness, get rotated in/out of jobs every few years and - if they stay in that long - can retire after 20 years.


20 posted on 06/04/2011 8:57:59 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down!)
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