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Black House Districts Work To Republicans' Advantage
Yahoo News ^ | 06/04/2011 | Cynthia Tucker

Posted on 06/04/2011 7:02:26 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan

WASHINGTON -- I won't procrastinate; I'll get the most difficult part of this column over right now: I was wrong. I was shortsighted, naive and narrow-minded to endorse the concept of drawing congressional districts to take racial demographics into account.

In 1982, the Voting Rights Act, with its emphasis on Southern states, was amended to encourage the creation of awkwardly named "majority-minority" districts in order to give black voters the strength of a bloc. I believed that drawing such districts was a progressive political tactic, a benign form of affirmative action that would usher more black members into a Congress that had admitted only a handful.

The tactic worked. In 1980, there were only 18 blacks in the U.S. House of Representatives. Now, there are 44, many of them elected from districts drawn to meet the mandates of the Voting Rights Act.

Unfortunately -- like so many measures designed to provide redress for historic wrongs -- those racially gerrymandered districts also come with a significant downside: They discourage moderation. Politicians seeking office in majority-black or -brown districts found that they could indulge in crude racial gamesmanship and left-wing histrionics.

Hemming most black voters into a few districts also had a deleterious effect on surrounding areas, now "bleached" of voters whose interests tend toward equality of opportunity. Their absence encourages pols in districts left overwhelmingly white to use the "Southern strategy" of playing to the resentments of white voters still uncomfortable with decades of social change.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gerrymandering; redistricting; votingrightsact
I wish liberals would make up their minds.
1 posted on 06/04/2011 7:02:30 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Sounds like Cynthia is embarrassed by the likes of Sheila Jackson Lee, Barbara Lee, John Conyers, etc. etc. Affirmative action always produces inferior results, our current president being Exhibit A.


2 posted on 06/04/2011 7:11:21 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: kittymyrib
Payback is a bitch ain't it cynthia.
3 posted on 06/04/2011 7:16:24 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Cynthia Tucker says “I was wrong.”

She should say the same in every single column she ever writes.


4 posted on 06/04/2011 7:16:41 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (American Thinker Columnist / Rush ghost contributor)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

If only they realize sooner that every policy has unintended consequences. Some of them work against the very cause they try to accomplish with the policy.


5 posted on 06/04/2011 7:19:34 PM PDT by paudio (The differences between Clinton and 0bama? About a dozen of former Democratic Congressmen.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

So what does Cynthia want? Districts that are gerrymandered to be 60% or more Dem registration, like here in the Southern California locality where I live? The Marxists in Sacramento didn’t gerrymander by race so much as by voter registration. That’s why they’ve dominated the legislature here for so long.


6 posted on 06/04/2011 7:22:55 PM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
While black-packed districts yielded some quite respectable pols -- including U.S. Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., and U.S. Rep. James Clyburn,

Yep. That John Lewis guy is as honest as the day is long; as he proved last March when all those Tea Partiers were shouting the n-word at him 15 times.

7 posted on 06/04/2011 7:23:53 PM PDT by Minn
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Not bad, Cynthia: it only took you 30 years to get to what the rest of us have known for, well, at least 30 years!

Your stupidity and narrow-mindedness have never stopped you from rendering your opinions, though, have they?


8 posted on 06/04/2011 7:29:07 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: BuckeyeTexan
So the democrats finally figured out that packing all the flaming liberals into single districts makes the remaining districts safe for the GOP.

:)

9 posted on 06/04/2011 7:29:35 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Gerrymandered districts truly are an abomination. Any thinking person should oppose them on principle. The fact that they have resulted in a bevy of corrupt, racist morons in congress is just part of the problem. Still, it’s hilarious how this dumb Democratic idea insures that a good percentage of the Dem caucus consists of crooks, and has resulted in a natural Republican majority in congress.


10 posted on 06/04/2011 7:35:47 PM PDT by Minn
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To: Minn

John Lewis is my Representative and he hasn’t done anything for the past 25 years he’s been in Congress. I don’t have any representation in Congress.


11 posted on 06/04/2011 7:39:01 PM PDT by Atlantan
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To: BuckeyeTexan
"If black voters think they have made substantial gains simply by having more black representatives in Congress, they're wrong. They'd have more influence if they were spread through several legislative districts, forcing more candidates to court them."

No, Cynthia. Black voters would have more influence if they stopped voting 90% Democrat, putting all their eggs in one basket, and that happens to be the non-majority party.

12 posted on 06/04/2011 7:42:01 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Atlantan
John Lewis is my Representative

Sorry. I got you beat. Mine is Keith Ellison, who just was reelected with over a 40% margin in a hugely Republican year.

13 posted on 06/04/2011 7:44:41 PM PDT by Minn
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Be careful what you wish for.

You get James Clyburn, we get a Republican state, not a bad deal in SC.

14 posted on 06/04/2011 7:51:03 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I was wrong. I was shortsighted, naive and narrow-minded...

That ain't news. Well, maybe to Tucker it is.

Let me guess, she wants a do-over now that she realized she is an idiot. That ain't news either.

15 posted on 06/04/2011 7:59:14 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I LOVE the fact that 30% of Democratic voters are herded into a small handful of districts nationwide!

We don't want those freaking liberal retards in our districts!

Democrats are VERY lucky their power base is in the Northeast where the states are very small, and thus get 2 senators for an area not much larger than a large city in the south. Nearly the whole northeast should be turned into ONE large state with only 2 liberal senators, THAT would fix a lot of stuff.

16 posted on 06/04/2011 8:07:01 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Minn

Move....


17 posted on 06/04/2011 8:14:59 PM PDT by Shamrock-DW
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Democrats are VERY lucky their power base is in the Northeast where the states are very small, and thus get 2 senators for an area not much larger than a large city in the south. Nearly the whole northeast should be turned into ONE large state with only 2 liberal senators, THAT would fix a lot of stuff.

I just love that idea!

18 posted on 06/04/2011 8:17:55 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Minn; Atlantan

I’ve got you BOTH beat.

Mine’s Elijah Cummings (D-Murdermore).


19 posted on 06/04/2011 8:25:41 PM PDT by RockinRight (Who is "Generic Republican" and why does he poll so much better against Obama than anyone else?)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Yeah, give 'em what they want --- and still they bitch!

You reaps what you sows, you racist.

20 posted on 06/04/2011 8:30:47 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

See you don’t get it...liberal want their cake and eat it too...They want both sides of the argument. Facts be daymned...I always tell black folks that playing racial and identity politics are a losing game, but they arent quite ready for it.


21 posted on 06/04/2011 8:31:39 PM PDT by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER 2012 from my house....)
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To: kittymyrib

Lets not forget the posteridiot Hank Johnson.


22 posted on 06/04/2011 8:53:10 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Atlantan

Vote with your feet.


23 posted on 06/04/2011 8:55:41 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Black voters would have more influence if they stopped voting 90% Democrat, putting all their eggs in one basket, and that happens to be the non-majority party.

Every "identity politics" group needs to learn this lesson. If they can count on your vote you have no power over them.

24 posted on 06/04/2011 8:59:36 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Exactly.

Just to pick a random state with 2 Republican Senators, I looked at Arizona’s total population and area vs the NE. Compared to the following list, Arizona has 238,000 more people and 94,000 more square miles than:

Vermont
Delaware
Rhode Island
Connecticut

Those four states have 9 Congressmen compared to 8 for Arizona (9 in 2013) despite having fewer people by 1/3 of a Congressman. In the Senate, those 4 states have 8 Democrats compared to Arizona’s 2. So, despite having more people and more land area, the NE states have 1 more Congressman and 6 more Senators, who are all democrats.


25 posted on 06/04/2011 9:00:39 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

This is what happens when you play racial identity politics and you are only about 10% of the population. You lose.

You elect idiots that only run on race, inflaming everyone with their race pimping so they get re-elected over and over. So of course the natural reaction is to give a double fistful to you fool suckas chased with a garden hose cocktail to wash it down.

So buy yourself a cup of STFU already Miss Cynthia. You did this to yourself.


26 posted on 06/04/2011 9:02:54 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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She's absolutely right about the mistake this minority-majority district nonsense was and about the poor quality of representatives it's produced but, hey, Democrats wanted plantations to keep "those people" on and they got their wish.

She's wrong in demagoguing Republicans, however. I don't see how "ultraconservatives" are appropriately depicted as battle flag and kenyan-born Obama conspiracy types.

27 posted on 06/04/2011 9:13:55 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Oh, I see. Cynthia has seen the light. Gerrymandering is a bad idea....when it's the other side's turn to do the gerrymandering.

How conveeeeeenient.

"Moderation", she says. That's kinda like Nancy Pelosi being interested in "bipartisanship", right after the Dims get their @$$es kicked at the ballot box.

28 posted on 06/04/2011 9:19:41 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: BuckeyeTexan

What the hell can anyone expect from the idiot that “suggested” America air-drop SPAM over Iraq as aid?


29 posted on 06/04/2011 9:41:53 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: kittymyrib

“Sounds like Cynthia is embarrassed by the likes of Sheila Jackson Lee, Barbara Lee, John Conyers, etc. etc. Affirmative action always produces inferior results, our current president being Exhibit A.”
The current president being Exhibit B or C. Exhibit A has been the utter destruction of the Black family and with it the underpinnings of Black Civilization.

To be quite honest I wonder if true racist like LBJ were actually trying to accomplish just this with their “Civil rights” acts. If it was not to destroy black civilization it was to put as many blacks as possible back on the Slave plantation. This plantation not run by a private individual or family but by a Big overbearing Nanny Government.


30 posted on 06/04/2011 9:47:35 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: BuckeyeTexan

CBC even embarasses the left.


31 posted on 06/04/2011 10:09:30 PM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: Free Vulcan

You should see what the Voting Rights Act is doing in Michigan.

We lost a seat because of the 10+ year long recession. Detroit lost 25% of it’s population, but because of the VRA it will retain control of two seats. Conyers and Hanson Clarke will keep their “protected” status and the new districts are horribly gerrymandered. One proposal has a geographical “finger” snaking out of Detroit to snag Pontiac.

If there’s a benefit, it forces Sander Levin and Gary Peters into a primary against each other.


32 posted on 06/05/2011 2:29:00 AM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

If only Blacks weren’t so racist and would vote for White Republicans at least some of the time, I could listen to you Cynthia, but since that isn’t happening any time soon go pound sand.


33 posted on 06/05/2011 4:25:29 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: kittymyrib

“What’d that cost him?”

Trust me—Tucker is embarrassed by no one(except for maybe mckinney) and if the dems were still in control while redistricting is happening, she’d still be for gerrymandering more and bigger black districts.


34 posted on 06/05/2011 4:42:57 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

“Lets not forget the posteridiot Hank Johnson.”

Unfortunately, I got to claim that dimwit.


35 posted on 06/05/2011 4:45:19 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: freeangel

You can have fun with hank by posting all the stupid crap that comes out of his mouth but you may have to start your own blog with the spouting from that idiot.


36 posted on 06/05/2011 5:18:43 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Monorprise
Sounds like Cynthia is embarrassed by the likes of Sheila Jackson Lee, Barbara Lee, John Conyers, etc. etc. Affirmative action always produces inferior results, our current president being Exhibit A.”

Almost - I thought to myself when I started reading this article, this is Cynthia Tucker? Is it even possible? She was sooooooo close! -

Unfortunately -- like so many measures designed to provide redress for historic wrongs -- those racially gerrymandered districts also come with a significant downside: They discourage moderation. Politicians seeking office in majority-black or -brown districts found that they could indulge in crude racial gamesmanship and left-wing histrionics.

But alas, she takes her new-found revelation and gets it exactly wrong -

What do Republicans get out of the deal? With most black voters pushed into one or two districts, they have rid surrounding districts of voters who might shun a politician who claims allegiance to the Rebel flag or who insists that President Barack Obama is a foreigner. In other words, they make neighboring districts safe for ultraconservative Republicans.

It's like watching a small child trying to learn how to ride a bike and never figuring out how not to fall. When it's your kid it's heartbreaking, when it's somebody else's, it's just plain funny.

37 posted on 06/05/2011 7:43:23 AM PDT by Cable225 (TACT is for those not witty enough for sarcasm!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
[Art.] Hemming most black voters into a few districts also had a deleterious effect on surrounding areas, now "bleached" of voters whose interests tend toward equality of opportunity.

What, it took you 29 years to figure this out? When Dick Nixon had it figured out a dozen years before that?

Politicians seeking office in majority-black or -brown districts found that they could indulge in crude racial gamesmanship and left-wing histrionics.

Whaaaaat??!! Noooooo!!! When did that happen?

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Now she's sorry! Now that her ox is getting gored ..... feh.

38 posted on 06/05/2011 8:10:36 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: jmaroneps37
If only Blacks weren’t so racist and would vote for White Republicans at least some of the time, I could listen to you Cynthia, but since that isn’t happening any time soon go pound sand.

Yeah, I noticed that she conspicuously fails to renounce the illicit, deal-busting, poisoned-candy benefits of bloc voting.

She wants blacks to go on bloc-voting, only spread their malign political tactics around to more districts in order to shut conservatives out of the national conversation. We're getting to her. Now she's tired of the shiny blue toy, and nothing must do but that she have the red one ..... while keeping the blue one .....

39 posted on 06/05/2011 8:17:35 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Tinker and adjust the social order and you get results predictable by a real Economist. That is the inevitability Unintended Consequences that most of the time defeat the original purpose of the tinkering.


40 posted on 06/05/2011 9:11:03 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: MileHi

“”Democrats are VERY lucky their power base is in the Northeast where the states are very small, and thus get 2 senators for an area not much larger than a large city in the south. Nearly the whole northeast should be turned into ONE large state with only 2 liberal senators, THAT would fix a lot of stuff.”

I just love that idea!”

I agree New England actuary has the Gaul to want more representation cause they ave a uniquely “dense” population.

I found it interesting that you could put all 6 New England States together have an area only slightly larger then the State of Washington, and a population roughly half the size of Texas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England

Yet they have nearly as much representation in congress, and electors for president (33 vs 38).

As a whole New England is overrepresented consistering its Geographic size and growth potential.

The prevailing additive of the population in theses areas being general pro centralized goverment seems evident of their dissatisfaction with the limited size and capability of their Respective States to handle theses matters.

It is logical to encourage them to merge rather then continue to allow them to express this apparent dissatisfaction with advocacy of strong more intrusive Federal Government which the rest of us then have to live with.


41 posted on 06/05/2011 4:00:46 PM PDT by Monorprise
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