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Humala Headed to Victory in Peru Election, Quick Count Says
Bloomberg Businessweek ^ | June 05, 2011 | John Quigley and Helen Murphy

Posted on 06/05/2011 7:23:20 PM PDT by hout8475

Peruvian opposition candidate Ollanta Humala is headed to victory over Congresswoman Keiko Fujimori in the Andean nation’s presidential runoff, according to a quick count of ballots and three exit polls. Humala won 51.5 percent compared with 48.5 percent for Fujimori, according to a quick count of 91 percent of ballots at selected polling stations nationwide by Lima-based researcher Ipsos-Apoyo.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessweek.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; fujimori; humala; peru; southamerica

1 posted on 06/05/2011 7:23:29 PM PDT by hout8475
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To: hout8475

Yet another f-ing disaster in S. America as another Chavista takes the reins.


2 posted on 06/05/2011 7:43:25 PM PDT by montag813
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To: hout8475

Another socialist President for life


3 posted on 06/05/2011 7:44:45 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: hout8475

I smell vote fraud.


4 posted on 06/05/2011 7:46:24 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: hout8475

Obama will be delighted. Another Communist pig he can hug.


5 posted on 06/05/2011 8:01:28 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: hout8475

I thought Keiko Fujimori was a communist?


6 posted on 06/05/2011 8:28:49 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: hout8475

Peruvians had a lousy choice. Wouldn’t want either one.


7 posted on 06/05/2011 8:32:49 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks hout8475, and thanks nuconvert for that comment.


8 posted on 06/05/2011 8:59:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: nuconvert

Keiko Fujimori is a right-wing conservative. Humala is a nazi.


9 posted on 06/05/2011 9:23:43 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: nuconvert

My friend in Lima agrees, he did not like Fujimori very much, but knew Hugo’s friend Humala would not be good for Peru.


10 posted on 06/05/2011 9:45:44 PM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: hout8475
Humala, like Chavez, led a failed coup as a paratrooper. In 2000, he directed 50 soldiers to seize and occupy for a week one of Phoenix-based Southern Copper Corp.’s mines to protest corruption in Fujimori’s government. The former army lieutenant colonel’s brother, Antauro Humala, is in jail for killing four policemen during the takeover of a highland town in 2005.

Like Chavez, an armed mutineer. You don't indulge people like this, you slap them in prison for life.

The president who pardoned Chavez is at fault for everything that followed. Failure to courtmartial Humala was the first step toward a new dictatorship.

11 posted on 06/05/2011 10:14:26 PM PDT by marron
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To: nuconvert
Peruvians had a lousy choice. Wouldn’t want either one.

To be sure. I was in Lima in late March, and saw all the political advertising, from all the candidates. The Keiko Fujimori ones particularly annoyed me, as she was practically calling for a police state. Many here believe Humala will be a disaster, and perhaps so, but Fujimori would have been even worse imo...

the infowarrior

12 posted on 06/05/2011 10:49:23 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Keiko Fujimori is a right-wing conservative. Humala is a nazi.

They *both* have a fascist mindset. No good choices there...

the infowarrior

13 posted on 06/05/2011 10:52:10 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: infowarrior

As far as I can see they are both horrible choices, with Fujimoro being, at least, pro-business. I’m afraid for Peru.


14 posted on 06/05/2011 11:07:33 PM PDT by Thidwick
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“Keiko Fujimori is a right-wing conservative.”

That’s not what I hear.
You might want to check on some of the other comments being made by FReepers who have lived or visited there or have friends who do


15 posted on 06/06/2011 5:02:15 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert
Since you made the claim (?), I think you should back it up.

What is your evidence that Fujimori is a communist?

FReepers said that? Who? Bump them.

16 posted on 06/06/2011 12:41:38 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

My post # 6 was a question. See the question mark? I never said FReepers said that.

And my response to you in #15 was regarding your “Keiko Fujimori is a right-wing conservative” statement.
Please read more carefully, read the posts of others regarding Fujimori and stop trying to put words in my mouth.

Thank you.


17 posted on 06/06/2011 2:41:43 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert
You thought she was a communist? That's what you posted. Where did you hear that?

She's not. You just heard it from a FReeper. Her father is being persecuted because he was an anti-communist. Humala's father was a communist. Humala is a leftist nazi socialist.

18 posted on 06/06/2011 6:42:38 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“Humala is a leftist nazi socialist. “

Yes, I know he’s a bad guy. Thank you.

My understanding from others, is that she’s no angel, neither was her father, and the Peruvians had a lousy choice to make between the 2 of them, though in the end, they made the wrong choice.
So, we’ll see what happens now.


19 posted on 06/06/2011 8:39:32 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: hout8475
Hi, Peru!
See you around, lol!


20 posted on 06/06/2011 8:50:17 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: nuconvert

Nobody said they are angels, but they are anti-communists, not communists. Humala is a communist.


21 posted on 06/06/2011 9:34:46 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe; nuconvert; infowarrior
It was stated that the choice between the two was comparable to making a choice between 'AIDS or cancer.' Keiko Fujimori not only ran a weird (and scary to those with memories of her father) campaign, but more importantly the associations with her father did not do much to help her. Humala is a Chavist who will almost definitely not do Peru much good, however Keiko is not a 'rightwing conservative' by any measure (in the American sense of the word).

The quote about the choice between the two being tantamount to a choice between AIDS and cancer was from a native Peruvian who now lives in Europe (full bio: Daniel Hannan is a writer and journalist, and has been Conservative MEP for South East England since 1999. He speaks French and Spanish and loves Europe, but believes that the European Union is making its constituent nations poorer, less democratic and less free). I am attaching an excerpt of part of his article below (which was also posted on FR), and it can be seen that he is really against Humala and the thuggish future that he bodes, but he also does not think that Keiko Fujimori is a 'rightwing conservative' (whatever that means, which is key when looking at the political spectrum in other nations where the meaning of a phrase per American diction can be totally incongruent with the same word in a divergent political environment). The quote of AIDS/cancer is by Mario Vargas Llosa, a former leftist who converted to free-market conservatism (with that phrase having the same connotation as it does in the US, with Llosa annoying all sorts of leftists with his advocacy for property rights, open markets, and even risking quite a lot opposing then president Garcia's plan to nationalize banks ....quite different from Keiko Fujimori's 'rightwing conservatism,' which is the creation of a police state that brought to many Peruvians memories of her father autocratric dictatorship and human rights issues).

It was a bad choice, and while I personally would have prefered Fujimori (as does the Peruvian capital markets based on the market's reaction) it was a bad choice, with one person being a rabid dog, and the other a copperhead in your rucksack. Sure, one option (Fujimori ...the daughter) is better, it is not necessarily the best of choices.

Here is the excerpt:

First it was Venezuela, then Bolivia, then Ecuador, then Nicaragua. Now it’s my native Peru. One by one, largely unremarked here, Latin America’s nations are turning to the authoritarian Left. Ollanta Humala, who won yesterday’s presidential run-off, is typical of the breed of modern caudillo. A cashiered former army officer, he had concocted an angry and aggrieved programme which mingled ethnic nationalism, hostility to private enterprise, nostalgia for pre-Columbian times and anti-Chilean revanchism. His hero is Juan Velasco, the socialist general who seized power in a putsch in 1968, and promptly set about reducing Peru to a condition of penury from which it has only recently recovered. (One of my first memories is of the land invasions and mob violence of that baleful era.) Humala’s opponent in the run-off was Keiko Fujimori, daughter of the man who, as president in the 1990s, closed down Congress and gave himself autocratic powers, and who is now serving 25 years for human rights abuses. Mario Vargas Llosa saw it as a choice between two illiberal extremes – or, as he graphically put it, “between AIDS and cancer”. He voted, reluctantly and fearfully, for Humala. Humala, who used to boast of his closeness to Venezuela’s Hugo Chávez, now says he has moderated his views, and I hope to God he means it. Look at the other Chavists who have seized power in the neighbourhood, such as Bolivia’s Evo Morales and Ecuador’s Rafael Correa. They may not be exactly anti-democratic, but they are certainly anti-parliamentary; Bonapartists, if you like. Having got themselves more or less fairly elected, they promptly set about dismantling every constraint on their power: the national assembly, the electoral commission, the supreme court, independent media, business associations. In order to maintain their popularity, they keep picking fights – with Washington, with the IMF or, when all else fails, with each other.

Saying Keiko Fujimori is a 'rightwing conservative' is inaccurate. I saw in your latter posts you changed it to saying she is anti-communist (like her father). That is now correct, and a clear distinction between Humala who is a chavist. However being an anti-communist doesn't make one a rightwing conservative, especially when one is an anti-communist fascist. Both were poor choices, and the rabid dog won unfortunately (unfortunately, because at least an adult human being can survive a Copperhead's bite with proper medical care and some antivenin, while the rabid dog's bite, if untreated for long enough, would be 100% lethal).

Sarah Palin is an anti-communist rightwing conservative. Keiko Fujimori is an anti-communist fascist.

22 posted on 06/07/2011 2:32:05 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: spetznaz

Thank you, Spetz, for your input.


23 posted on 06/07/2011 6:42:22 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: spetznaz; nuconvert
Leftists always call their enemies fascist. In fact Humala is the leftist and the fascist, and Fujimori is not.

Does she support nationalization like Humala? She's been called a communist, a fascist, AIDS, and a snake, but I haven't heard any substantive criticism of her positions. Libertarian is not conservatism. Llosa sounds like Ralph Nader telling me there' no difference between the Democrat and Republican Party.

Fujimori's father saved Peru from Maoist communism. He's not a fascist. He's a hero. He should be pardoned.

24 posted on 06/07/2011 8:24:55 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe; nuconvert
If he is a hero, then why should he be pardoned? The charges must have been fake, right? He was a holy 'rightwing conservative' as well who did nothing wrong, and the actions of the Grupo Colina death squads must have 'misinterpreted' his directions. The various massacres, some of which involved the killing of children, were also manufactured lies against this hero of heroes who can do no wrong. So was the forced sterilisation of several hundred thousand women.

The difference between me and you TGJ when it comes to communism is as follows ....you believe communism is an absolute evil, and that anything that is against it therefore must be good and embraced. I, on the other hand, also believe that communism is an absolute evil, but I am not myopic enough to accept that anything against it must be good and embraced. Sometimes you have two evils, one absolute and one not-so-bad-but-still-not-kosher (which is why I stated before that while I would have wanted Keiko to win for market-based reason since some of my PE Funds are SA focused, I did not necessarily think that she was Mary Immaculate or anything close). There are many shades of gray, and just because Stalin is a b@$stard with his own spot of honor in Hades doesn't mean that Hitler helps Saint Pete with the keys to the Pearly Gates.

25 posted on 06/07/2011 11:09:49 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: spetznaz
You might as well call George W. Bush a fascist who sent "death squads" to kill innocent children in Haditha and make human pyramids at Abu Ghraib.

Fujimori fought a war against communism and he won. That's why he's hated and that's why he's unjustly imprisoned.

Now we will see a resurgence of Sendero Luminoso, and Peru will be desperate for a Fujimori to save them again.

26 posted on 06/08/2011 12:03:03 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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