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When it comes to liberty, is TX Gov. Rick Perry all talk?
06/05/2011 | Jack Wilson

Posted on 06/06/2011 6:55:44 AM PDT by jbwilson

In recent years, Texas Governor Rick Perry has made quite a name for himself as a champion of state sovereignty, as an outspoken supporter of the right to keep and bear arms, and as a proponent of reigning in unlawful searches by TSA agents.  But with the media now abuzz about the possibility of a Perry presidential run, I’m forced to wonder if these reputations are well-earned or if Governor Perry simply knows how to say the right things at the right time to stir up his political base.

How many times during his decade-long reign as governor of Texas has Rick Perry “put his money where his mouth is,” so to speak?  Despite all of his strong rhetoric, Governor Perry seems surprisingly reluctant to throw his political weight behind any freedom-ensuring legislation that is even the slightest bit controversial (he’s much less reticent when it comes to requiring 12-year-old girls to get vaccinated for STDs). 

During the 2011 regular session of the Texas Legislature, Governor Perry stood idly by as the federal government strong-armed Texas lawmakers into killing legislation by Representative David Simpson that would have prohibited federal agents at airports from performing invasive searches without probable cause.  And he lifted nary a finger to facilitated passage of legislation, also by Representative Simpson, that would have guaranteed the Second Amendment rights of those Texans working and studying on college campuses

When it became clear that a few spend-happy Democrats were going to force the Texas Legislature into a special session, many Texans assumed that Governor Perry would add these two important bills, both of which have broad support among legislators, to the agenda.  But so far, the governor has remained silent on both issues.  And now many pundits are suggesting that Perry won’t add these bills to the special session because doing so might not bode well for his potential presidential campaign.

Governor Perry loves to play up his image as a “cowboy” or “true Texan,” bragging about shooting a coyote on an Austin jogging trail (a dubious story he’s failed to corroborate with either a police report or a dead coyote) and peppering his talk with folksy Texas sayings.  But at the end of the day, he may very well be just another opportunist politician looking for his ticket to D.C.  At the end of the day, there may be one folksy Texas saying that does sum up Rick Perry: “He’s all hat and no cattle.”

-J. Wilson


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; US: Texas; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: fourthamendment; rickperry; secondamendment; texas; tsa; tsapervs
I wrote this last night and sent it to a few friends/colleagues. One friend responded that I should post it on Free Republic. This is my first time posting here, so I apologize in advance if I picked the wrong sub-forum or somehow broke protocol.
1 posted on 06/06/2011 6:55:47 AM PDT by jbwilson
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To: jbwilson

yes, he’s all talk. I like him here in Texas where at least he pretends to be conservative.


2 posted on 06/06/2011 6:56:39 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat, they sh#t on.)
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To: jbwilson

EVERYONE needs to remember that Texas is an EXTREMLY WEAK Governer state and ALL TX Gov(or Ex-TX Govs) should be AVOIDED at ALL costs.


3 posted on 06/06/2011 6:58:09 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: jbwilson

Is this the beginning of the pre-emptive attacks on Perry because of the rumors he may run for Pres.?


4 posted on 06/06/2011 7:02:29 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: jbwilson
James Richard “Rick” Perry

born March 4, 1950 in Paint Creek, TX (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Joseph Ray Perry born 1925 in TX
Amelia June Holt born 1928/9 in TX

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Rick Perry is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama ISN'T!

72:1:12

5 posted on 06/06/2011 7:03:41 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: jbwilson

Texas posters are going to have to educate the uninformed like myself because from what I see on the surface, Perry looks acceptable and, in comparison to what we have now, pretty good. Get the bad facts out (that Perry has been able to hide) because if he jumped in now, I’d probably support him.


6 posted on 06/06/2011 7:03:59 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: jbwilson

Been on FR all day Wilson...seems like you are the one that is all “hat and no cattle”....


7 posted on 06/06/2011 7:04:04 AM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver
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To: jbwilson

I have to agree.

He does have good hair, though.


8 posted on 06/06/2011 7:04:31 AM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: jbwilson

Didn’t want him for governer the last two times and don’t want him for president. Had to hold my nose to do it and will again if he’s the one representing the Republicans, but it won’t be a happy day for me. I say this from having observed him in office only. But my husband did go to college with him and said he was a total jerk then, too.


9 posted on 06/06/2011 7:06:17 AM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: jbwilson

He also wouldn’t stand with Gov. Brewer (AZ) over the illegal immigration bill....saying “our focus must continue to be on the criminal elements involved with conducting criminal acts against Texans and their property.”

So, it is okay to come across illegally and stay here illegally as long as you don’t commit a criminal act against Texans and their property? The mere act of committing the illegal act of sneaking into this country should be enough of a criminal act against Texans and their property. He is a DORK!


10 posted on 06/06/2011 7:06:24 AM PDT by imfrmdixie (A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both. Eisenhower)
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To: humblegunner

ping


11 posted on 06/06/2011 7:07:11 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: jbwilson

Don’t forget Re. Burt Solomons’ Sanctuary Cities bill, which Dems killed as HB12 in the Senate, but which Solomons has re-posted as HB9 -— yet a week later, Perry has yet to add it to his “call list” so it can be begun. As the days roll on, the chances of that bill’s success dwindles - ONLy because of Perry’s inaction. The Dems CANNOT kill it anyone in the Senate under special session rules.


12 posted on 06/06/2011 7:07:44 AM PDT by montag813 (SECURE THE DAMN BORDER! http://www.StandWithArizona.com)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Perry isn’t perfect by any stretch, but he seems like a very astute politician that can stick it to the Rats, and won’t roll over, like most Milquetoast GOP candidates.


13 posted on 06/06/2011 7:08:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: jbwilson

Perry is only in office because George Bush Resigned in 2000 to run for president and thereafter in EVERY re-election campaign Perry was the preferred douche bag vs the lesser turd sandwich.

Perry is no conservative. His attempt to force Texas young women to be injected with a drug via executive order tells you everything you need to know about him. If that is not enough his attempt at property theft via the Trans-Texas Corridor is more than enough. Need more? He has been a wimp do-nothing when it comes to the border and has allowed for sanctuary cities all across Texas where illegals murder, rape and steal from Texans. Still not enough? He signed in to law an illegal state income tax on businesses via “franchise tax”. On top of all of this Perry has broke the record on special sessions. He uses it to push through laws he wants because he sets the agenda in these sessions. This has been a huge waste of money.

The only good thing here is that Perry is lazy. He will not run for president unless like all his past elections he is the preferred douche again. If Palin comes in to the race Perry will not get in. He does not have the grit or mental tools to be a great candidate nor a great president.

“Rick Perry, he sucks but he sucks less than the other guy” will always be his campaign slogan.

The last thing we need is another lightweight that looks and sounds good a mile wide but has absolutely no depth.


14 posted on 06/06/2011 7:13:43 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: jbwilson

I have posted before against Perry, but contrary to what some are saying his record is no worse than mixed. Bachmann is more consistently conservative, but Perry has a more conservative record than most of the field. He has also been an effective legislative strategist in a weak-governor form of state government.


15 posted on 06/06/2011 7:20:15 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: jbwilson

When it comes to anything, TX Gov. Rick Perry is “all talk”. Or, as we say down here in Texas, “he’s all hat and no cattle.” The words “light-weight”, “empty suit” keep coming to my mind.


16 posted on 06/06/2011 7:25:58 AM PDT by no dems (If the GOP nominee has no fire in the belly in 2012, we're going down.)
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To: isthisnickcool
“Rick Perry, he sucks but he sucks less than the other guy” will always be his campaign slogan.

Excellent summation.

17 posted on 06/06/2011 7:28:17 AM PDT by farmguy
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

No it’s those of us that know him well giving insight to those that don’t.


18 posted on 06/06/2011 7:29:31 AM PDT by call meVeronica
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To: jbwilson
Do you have a blog or write for other publications? If so could you give us links to either?

Like all Perry has his good and bad points. I”m not sure how he'd fare in a hard nosed campaign with everyone looking at his record or lack thereof and having to face confrontations on a daily basis. That's something he hasn't had to do as gov.

On the other hand maybe we could share him with the other 56 states and get someone else to occupy the governor's chair in Austin.

19 posted on 06/06/2011 7:33:42 AM PDT by deport
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Governor Perry was nowhere to be found when child protective services kidnapped the children of a “LDS sect” from a “compound” and refused to let their mothers interact with them, because of their beliefs. The children were held prisoners, then after a few weeks or longer, they were quietly allowed to return to their homes with no comment. If that is not dereliction of duty by the head of a state, I don’t know what is.


20 posted on 06/06/2011 7:36:10 AM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
The two big hits on Perry is that he hasn't been as force-full on illegal immigration saying the AZ style law was not right for Texas.

He supports NAFTA & Mexican trucks on Texas highways.

No candidate will be perfect so we'll have to take the bad with the good from whoever enters the race.

21 posted on 06/06/2011 7:37:59 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: jbwilson

I have never fully agreed with any President or Presidential contender. That said, if we continue to look for perfection, we will end up with the one for another four years.

We need to look at the positive things the candidates have done instead of always the negative.

Not for or against Perry at the moment.


22 posted on 06/06/2011 8:07:36 AM PDT by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Perry is on my short list.

Palin, Cain, Perry

Palin has that charisma and fighting spirit; Cain has charisma and business experience; Perry has that real chance at solid electoral vote getting.


23 posted on 06/06/2011 8:09:24 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: jbwilson
Well done. Gov. Goodhair is not conservative at all. He talks a good game, never carries through. There is no reason why we couldn't have pushed through Vermont-style carry this session. Even more so during a special session, where you only need majority votes. Right after he was re-elected I was wondering why we were still hearing him speak on conservative themes, and now we know. He's running for President. This is one Texan who won't pull the lever for a continuation of crony capitalism at either the state or national level.
24 posted on 06/06/2011 8:12:41 AM PDT by zeugma (The only thing in the social security trust fund is your children and grandchildren's sweat.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Weak; but he has the veto pen.


25 posted on 06/06/2011 8:15:33 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: isthisnickcool

thanks, you said exactly what his Texan thinks about Perry.


26 posted on 06/06/2011 8:20:59 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: isthisnickcool

Okay, some of us already know of the negatives, and now that Governor Perry and Lt. Governor Dewhurst are reaching the limit of their tenure, who are you supporting as their replacements?


27 posted on 06/06/2011 8:23:06 AM PDT by ngat
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To: jbwilson

You signed up today to post this?

I don’t know about any “protocol” or “sub-forum”... I do know, with 100% certainty, that you don’t give a flying F about FR and that you’re here to further some agenda.

I don’t know or care what it is.

My opinion is:

If a poster has been here less than a year and starts posting articles I’m suspicious.

If they post an article their first DAY, I’m not just suspicious, I’m certain.

I’m curious though, did you post this on your “regular” forum, wherever that is?


28 posted on 06/06/2011 8:42:08 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: jbwilson
Perry gave himself away as a Progressive Democrat wolf in Progressive Republican sheep's clothing when he signed, instead of vetoing, the bill allowing in-state tuition for illegal aliens back in 2001.
Setting the record straight on in-state tuition for illegals
29 posted on 06/06/2011 9:15:57 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: zeugma

Not only didn’t we get Vermont-style carry; we didn’t even get open carry. A bill that would have brought Texas into line with 44 other states (that currently allow concealed carry) never got a vote. And Perry has yet to sign the “employee protection act,” or whatever they’re calling it, that would prevent an employer from firing somebody for leaving a gun in his or her car. It looks like maybe he’s decided that all of the pro-gun stuff won’t play quite as well on the national stage as it does here in Texas.


30 posted on 06/06/2011 10:21:11 AM PDT by jbwilson
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To: imfrmdixie

The way I hear it, he pushed for the sanctuary cities bill because it would give him conservative street cred without actually rocking the boat the way Gov. Brewer’s bill did. And after threatening Senate Democrats with the promise that he’d include the sanctuary cities bill in the special session, he’s yet to do so.


31 posted on 06/06/2011 10:27:34 AM PDT by jbwilson
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To: samtheman
My friend said I'd better be ready for the onslaught if I decided to post over here. I guess this is what he meant. My agenda is that I'm sick and tired of empty promises from a governor I've voted for three times (in fact, I'm pretty sure the first vote I ever cast was for Rick Perry). If he ran for president, I might vote for him, depending on who he was running against (I'd definitely pick him over Barry Obama), but right now I'm ticked off that he seems to be putting his presidential aspirations ahead of the needs of his state. He needs to do the job he has before he turns all of his attention to the job he wants.
32 posted on 06/06/2011 10:44:45 AM PDT by jbwilson
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To: no dems; jbwilson; dfwgator; Opinionated Blowhard
The words “light-weight”, “empty suit” keep coming to my mind.

What-you-said bump.

To which we can add, "Big Chief Dull Knife", aka slow-witted tool of Karl Rove, the Bush family, and NWO Untouchables who want to privatize (for their own gain) the principal commuter routes and Interstate highways of Texas.

To which we can add, that he's been accused of cheating on his wife with effeminate men he appointed to their offices (and all hushed up after a big, totally-not-secret powwow with lefty/queer Austin American Statesman editors and homosexual agitators).

To which we can add, that he oversaw the illegal firing without appeal or recourse of a Texas woman who blew the whistle in 1997 on secret lawbreaking by Child Protective Services (New York Times article summary available) who were placing orphans for adoption by homosexual and lesbian couples, in direct violation of the black-letter law of the State of Texas. Neither Perry, who as lieutenant governor had the larger direct authority and responsibility in the affair, nor then-Gov. George W. Bush, did any thing to assure that the law would be followed and this woman justiced in her complaint against her vindictive, lawbreaking homosexual supervisors and managers.

33 posted on 06/06/2011 11:11:16 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: jbwilson
He needs to do the job he has before he turns all of his attention to the job he wants.

Don't worry, other people are doing it for him. Their way, of course.

34 posted on 06/06/2011 11:13:07 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
1. Perry pushed Trans Texas Corridor (lots of train & highway system, that slashed criss cross the state...really pissed off lots of rural landowners). He does not like personal property rights. (see next comment).

2. Perry pushed a fake prop. rights bill that lacks real teeth. Sorta like when congress said they did “a lot” to fix things when they really don't.

3. Perry tried to vaccine Texas girls with that gardisil ,
It would have been required . Perrycare=Obamacare

4. Perry (regardless of State Govt. Governor power) does not lead. He very carefully test the waters to keep himself from looking bad on all things.

5. After studying Jeffersons’ History Method of judging politicians Perry is an opportunist, statist, and wants
to control you for his ego's sake.

6. He is RINO magnified. He is statist politician.

7. He thinks the position of (potus) is reserved for him,
becuase it's “reserved for him”.

Debra Medina was best choice for Tx Gov. until Beck did a hit job
on her. (She thought ‘truthers’ should be heard- as was their right). But she had a patriots gut and knew what is wrong with Texas and not afraid to fix it.

35 posted on 06/06/2011 11:43:42 AM PDT by urtax$@work (The only kind of memorial is a Burning memorial !)
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To: jbwilson

Why here? Why now? Where have you been previously.

I’m more interested in you that I am in what you think of Rick Perry.


36 posted on 06/06/2011 11:50:20 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: jbwilson

Rick Perry...former Democrat...nuff said.


37 posted on 06/06/2011 12:32:44 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope
Honestly, of the handful of problems I have with Rick Perry, the fact that he's a former Democrat isn't one of them. After all, Ronald Reagan was once a Democrat, and he turned out okay.

I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.
38 posted on 06/06/2011 5:03:05 PM PDT by jbwilson
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To: samtheman

Sam, I’m not sure if you’re a big Perry supporter or if you’re just naturally suspicious of newcomers, but I’m not going to get sucked into defending my motivation for posting here. As I’ve suggested in my other posts, I don’t think Perry is the worst possible choice for governor or president, but his failure to follow through on some of his own rhetoric gives me pause for concern that perhaps he’s just an opportunist in conservative clothing.


39 posted on 06/06/2011 5:05:32 PM PDT by jbwilson
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To: jbwilson

I’m not a Perry supporter, I am suspicious of people who post articles their first or second day, but I have to admit, you are joining in the conversation. Usually the newbies post-and-run.


40 posted on 06/06/2011 5:31:56 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: SouthTexas

“I have never fully agreed with any President or Presidential contender. That said, if we continue to look for perfection, we will end up with the one for another four years. We need to look at the positive things the candidates have done instead of always the negative. Not for or against Perry at the moment.”

I disagree. We need to know where they have stood in the past—good or bad—simply because it may reflect where they go in the future. Perry is a candidate who as Texas Governor hasn’t exhibited a reflexive principle beyond getting elected to ever higher office. I don’t foresee him being a bad candidate if he runs, but I don’t trust him to be a good President.


41 posted on 06/06/2011 5:39:49 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (When Republicans don't vote conservative, conservatives don't vote Republican.)
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To: jbwilson
Not only didn’t we get Vermont-style carry; we didn’t even get open carry. A bill that would have brought Texas into line with 44 other states (that currently allow concealed carry) never got a vote. And Perry has yet to sign the “employee protection act,” or whatever they’re calling it, that would prevent an employer from firing somebody for leaving a gun in his or her car. It looks like maybe he’s decided that all of the pro-gun stuff won’t play quite as well on the national stage as it does here in Texas.

Worth repeating, as Gov. Goodhair has a lot more influence over the legislooters during special sessions.

Most folks don't realise how restrictive the laws are regarding handguns in Tx. They are much more restrictive than the common perception.

42 posted on 06/07/2011 7:55:36 AM PDT by zeugma (The only thing in the social security trust fund is your children and grandchildren's sweat.)
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To: zeugma
Gov. Goodhair (that name is starting to grow on me) just added sanctuary cities and "driver license security" (not quite sure what that means) to the agenda. I'm hopeful that this means he's about to add the TSA anti-groping bill and the campus carry bill, but I'm a little worried that he may be hoping to placate his conservative base (and get us to forget about the kids being molested by federal airport agents and the students dying in classroom massacres) by throwing us some sort of watered-down, symbolic immigration bill. We'll see.

At least I now have a little hope. He may win me over yet.
43 posted on 06/07/2011 1:58:03 PM PDT by jbwilson
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To: jbwilson
It's good to see grassroots politics at work:

http://www.campuscarry.com/home/texas-call-to-action/#content (Not a lot of information here, basically just contact info for the governor and lite governor, but it’s still good to know that others are active on this.)

http://tagtexas.org/208-grassroots-action-phone-calls-emails-and-office-visits-to-support-dignity-in-texas (TAG is hosting a lobby day tomorrow, to support the TSA anti-groping bill. I won’t be able to make to the capital, but my senator and rep will definitely be getting phone calls from me.)
44 posted on 06/07/2011 2:37:57 PM PDT by jbwilson
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

No it is a valid warning that Perry is a POS. Don’t be fooled by this phony. He is bought by the world elite.


45 posted on 06/07/2011 2:40:28 PM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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