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To: GonzoII

I almost agree that a 3rd Party , with a strong candidate set, like a Sarah Palin / Allen West ticket , might be the way to go.
No matter how much the Tea Party has tried to assist /advance / support the better elements with the Republican Party , the mainstreamers have done everything possible to demean/deny/dis-empower that same Tea Party activist movement . All they seem interested in doing is subverting it . [ Carl Rove ]

The R’s hardly deserve our support any longer , they have lost the will to fight , as Constitutionalists . They barely support our troops .

And yet nothing but “ the-sky-is-falling ‘ scare tactics and rhetoric at any mention of a ‘ 3rd Party’
God forbid! “ it guarantees a sure loss ! “ And sticking with the same old tired Republican wimps doesn’t ?

It doesn’t have to be a H.Ross Perot redux .
Sarah and Allen , in a sea of United States flags and a battle cry of VICTORY in the wars against radical Islam and run-away debt and spending on dubious social programs .
A full on turning away for the Sodom & Gomorrahism of the Obamaist socialist ‘progressive’ Soros puppet minions ...

We can do it . Those in uniform need us to help them out in this way .


2 posted on 06/06/2011 12:12:30 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

>>I almost agree that a 3rd Party , with a strong candidate set, like a Sarah Palin / Allen West ticket , might be the way to go.<<

The “Indie” in the post title refers to an Independent Film, not a 3rd Party Independent run. Palin would never run as an “Indie” as it would almost certainly ensure Obama’s re-election.


12 posted on 06/06/2011 12:43:59 PM PDT by Norseman (Term Limits: 8 years is enough!)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Don’t give up before the battle. In 2010, we started a battle with the establishment Republicans that we knew would take several election cycles to win.

Compare where we are to the 1976 election when Ronald Reagan almost won the Republican nomination. In the 1974 midterm elections, Republicans lost 48 seats in the House and 5 seats in the Senate in the aftermath of Watergate. Republicans were fighting amongst themselves hoping to find a way forward to victory. We hadn’t sold enough voters on the conservative message and Reagan lost the nomination and the election.

After losing in 76 the Republicans made only modest gains in the ‘78 midterms winning 15 seats in the House and 3 in the Senate. Both the House and Senate were held strongly by the democrats.

In 2010 Republicans won 5 seats in the Senate and 63 seats in the House. Moreover, the seats were won mostly by conservatives. It was called a wave election by some. We had some grassroots level of organization in the TEA Parties bringing disaffected independents to our side. We had some heavy involvement from Gov. Sarah Palin and Sen. Jim DeMint pushing those candidates and encouraging the TEA Parties.

After the 2010 election, the establishment of the Republican Party considered that it had won the election. It had increased its power. The accomplishments of Gov. Palin were not acknowledged and she was even blamed for not winning more seats. When her “Take Back the Twenty” map, which had been 90% effective in ousting democrats from Republican seats, was unfairly blamed for the Tucson shooting, establishment Republicans remained silent. Gov. Palin was allowed to swing in the wind, defended only by conservative talk show hosts.

Palin owes nothing to the Republican establishment. Still, a third party candidacy would not be desirable. We are close to taking control of the Republican party. The election of 2012 against a weak failed President could result in a Republican President and both houses of Congress. Spirited primaries could replace RINOs with more conservatives and increase Republican gains. We have the wind at our back, the TEA Parties still with us.

If we are able to put together a ticket with a strong conservative leader and we make those gains in 2012, we will no longer be running against our own party. We have to do it at the grassroots level, the establishment won’t give it to us. Some are predicting a fight in the Republican ranks like 1976. We don’t want another 1976. We need to make that a short fight and then a campaign like 1980 with our current version of Ronald Reagan.


23 posted on 06/06/2011 2:41:23 PM PDT by excopconservative (organize4palin.com (what are you doing to save your country?))
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