Copper Kills E. Coli Dead

Drug Discovery & Development ^ | June 6, 2011 | Unversity of Southampton

[blackdog]

You are refering to copper sulphate, the most common form of available copper for absorption.

Copper sulphate has been used for livestock footbaths to kill anerobic bacteria which cause foot rot in hooves. It kills all kinds of bacteria indescriminately. It's very toxic stuff.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Yep. Copper is used on the bottoms of boats to inhibit marine growth.

[allmost]

Cutting enough pressure treated will make you sick. The chemical ‘buddies’ they attach to it make the preservatives sickening. I'm no greenie, or maybe I am, but the Cu-? on the label means you will feel it. Go ahead. Try it.

[metmom]

This is really nothing new; the organometallic properties of metals has been known for a long time. I remember learning about them back in the 70’s when I was going to college.

Metals like copper are, however, very good at poisoning metabolic certain pathways. If you have ever had a fish tank, you may have used a copper based treatment for algae or ick.

Some of the fungicides used for treating vegetables contains copper.

This makes sense though. The anti-bacterial properties of silver have been widely known for a long time. Copper is in the same chemical family as copper, just one down, a slightly heavier metal.

[allmost]

It does it better but it’s a less common material.

[blackdog]

Any metal sulphate, carbonate, chloride, etc... will kill bacteria. In anything other than natural trace quatities it will kill you as well as the bacteria.

Organ failure and then central nervous system failure is the end result. It's ugly to watch. A lot of shaking and foaming of the mouth. Eventually your lungs fill up with fluids and you die.

[dennisw]

[blackdog]

Yep. Copper is used on the bottoms of boats to inhibit marine growth.

It's called a leaching biocide coating(the paint)The operative word there is "Biocide" It poisons the barnacles as fast as they try to develop. The leaching part is so the slow release of the copper sulphate continues for at least five years after application.

[Ken H]

Anyone remember Real Kill?

"Real Kill
declares war
on all you ugly bugs."

[GnuHere]

I saw this thread title and expected a Barney Fife photo!

[Joe 6-pack]

Horseshoe crab blood contains no hemoglobin (iron), but instead uses hemocyanin (copper) to bind oxygen molecules. Consequently, their blood is blue/green instead of red...

...horseshoe crab blood is harvested to collect their unique amebocytes for various medical testing procedures.

[lightman]

I attribute the increse in e coli outbreaks to the modern tendency to "sanitize" virtually everything. Your immune system develops the ability to fight pathogens as it encounters them.

Aye.

I recall a British study a few years back on this oversanitization which generated headlines like:
"Stay healthy: Eat more dirt".

[truthfreedom]

you might have something there.

[Ramius]

Yep. Copper is used on the bottoms of boats to inhibit marine growth.

No... Copper ~used~ to be used as a bottom paint for boats. Yes, it really did work to inhibit growth of marine organisms. I remember it well. But copper-based paints have been illegal for a long time now. You can't get the good stuff anymore.

[battletank]

Thanks for the info. I didn’t realize this affected humans that way...but I DO know that it can kill dogs. My westie died of Copper Storage disease.

[blackdog]

It's also why the copper Tee and other copper devices are used as IUD's in the uterus. They kill the sperm and eggs, preventing attachment on the uterine lining.

All of this is very old technology. I'm never one to get in the way of history repeating itself though. As for me, I'll prefer my Erythromycin with clavamoxic acid over sulpha drugs(metal sulphates and sulfur) used in the civil war as antibiotics.

[B4Ranch]

>>You never hear about somebody who works around animals and animal manure getting sick from e coli - it’s always some city dweller.<<

Continuing-— that’s one reason why it is a good idea to have a cat or a dog when your children are small. The kids auto-immune system gets a blast of bacteria that other kids miss.

[blackdog]

You can if you know someone who can get the MIL-SPEC stuff the Navy buys.

You can also mix a $20 bag of copper sulphate into the resin of a two part epoxy paint. The salt in the water will cause the copper to oxidize out of the coating slowly. It's not rocket science.

My family used to run an epoxy products business. It's all the same stuff really. Some you throw silicates(sand), or cabosil, or microcrystiline wax, or pebbles, or toxic metals(marine paints), fiberglass fibers, or whatever you want to make it a coating, grouting, or pourable chocking you want?

[tiki]

That might explain why organic veggies have it so much more than conventional veggies because a lot of conventionally grown vegetables receive a fungicide treatment with a copper based product.