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A Greater Depression
Human Events ^ | 6/7/11 | Bob Livingston

Posted on 06/07/2011 6:07:06 AM PDT by Kartographer

Currently, about 18.5 percent of American males between the ages of 18 and 55 are unemployed. About 44 million Americans are on food stamps. How long before we see riots in America like those in the Middle East and North Africa?

They may be starting already. Over the Memorial Day weekend, there were no fewer than seven incidents of riots or near riots in large crowds. Mob incidents, shootings, fights and looting broke out New York City; Rochester, N.Y.; Chicago; Miami; Myrtle Beach, N.C.; Nashville, Tenn.; Decatur, Ala.; and Boston. Beaches, water parks and streets were shut down. In recent weeks, there have been beat downs in hamburger joints, mob robberies and looting.

Trends forecaster Gerald Celente has said that when people lose everything and they have nothing else to lose, they lose it. The Federal Reserve and the Federal government have pillaged and looted and stolen about everything the American people have. But austerity is a dirty word to the elected elites. In Washington, in the States and in cities and towns across the country, elected elites are at least wishing they could raise taxes, if they are not outright doing so.

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Once talking about such happening here in America was considered crazy talk of the fringe and now everyday we are hearing it more more and more and from mainstream stream people from both sides of the political spectrum. Maybe it will maybe it won't but they is sure plenty of both polical and economic 'tender' laying around right now and all it would take is the right spark to set off a conflagration that we haven't seen in our life time.
1 posted on 06/07/2011 6:07:07 AM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

PING!


2 posted on 06/07/2011 6:08:40 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

“In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.” -Franklin D. Roosevelt
(via ~ The GUNNY “G” BLOG & E-MAIL ~)


3 posted on 06/07/2011 6:11:44 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Kartographer

No. It will be an excuse to impose martial law.


4 posted on 06/07/2011 6:11:52 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Kartographer

You really don’t see a lot of panic coming from the White House over the incredible negative turn everything has taken.....especially, MSM coverage of Obama.

If this continues, it will be clear that there is a plan for “something” prior to the 2012 elections that will ensure his re-election or no election at all.


5 posted on 06/07/2011 6:16:01 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Kartographer

>> all it would take is the right spark to set off a conflagration that we haven’t seen in our life time

One of many reasons we’re working hard to get the heck out of Dodge City and into the country.


6 posted on 06/07/2011 6:18:51 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Erik Latranyi

If nothing else, it’s good to see y’all thinking now...and even blurting it out here online...while we still can...the internet is what’s left of free speech...for now...

Semper Thinking and Blurting...

Gunny G
aka: Dick G
*****


7 posted on 06/07/2011 6:19:50 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Kartographer
Trends forecaster Gerald Celente has said that when people lose everything and they have nothing else to lose, they lose it.

In the Great Depression people lost everything but we didn't have these gangbangers and thugs everywhere.

It's when people get used to sucking on the government tit and it might get taken away, that they lose it and riot. Like in Greece and the rest of Europe. And Wisconsin.

8 posted on 06/07/2011 6:21:55 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Erik Latranyi

” You really don’t see a lot of panic coming from the White House over the incredible negative turn everything has taken..... “

The Libs/Dems seem to be incapable of seeing any downside to the ‘divide and conquer’ strategy of hate- and fearmongering... There’s gonna be a lot of surprised people when the Frankenstein Monster they created, having taken care of their ‘enemies’, turns and destroys its creators....


9 posted on 06/07/2011 6:23:40 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Kartographer

Why would people riot in America?

Just walk into any gov’t services agency, etc. ... and, ask for food or med. attention. These things are READILY available for all comers and have been for decades….it’s why the taxpayers are now broke. (Actually, if there is a church in your neighborhood, you will NOT starve in America)

I suggest what passes for the civil disorder of starving masses elsewhere on the globe is, IN AMERICA, really the public expression of politically exploited and over indulged ‘malcontents’ who taxpayers have ‘carried’ for decades and who would NOT be satisfied NO MATTER what or HOW MUCH assistance they receive.

NO group or individuals in America have ANY justification to complain ...except possibly the honest and hard working taxpayers who DO NOT take THEIR grievances into the street as disorderly and destructive violence. Instead, THESE Americans vote regularly and register their opinions THAT way!!!


10 posted on 06/07/2011 6:24:26 AM PDT by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: Nervous Tick

“One of many reasons we’re working hard to get the heck out of Dodge City and into the country.”

Good advice for many.

If you haven’t already it’s time to prepare. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

I think that we are at the very least in for a collapse much like that of Argentina’s ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yerKMQc7-w&feature=grec_index), but as a armed society with a very large entitlement minded population our collapse will be much more violent and I see many many small business wiped out by flash mob looting, and large scale violence (look at what happened just this past Memorial Day weekend). I see what I call ‘Pocket Pogroms’ taking place in many big ‘Blue’ cities and if you aren’t Amish it’s going to get Reginald Denny bad for you very quickly.

For those who haven’t prepared and would like to start or for those that have and are just interested you may download my Preparedness Manual at:

http://www.tomeaker.com/kart/preparedness1i.pdf

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3


11 posted on 06/07/2011 6:25:41 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Meet the New Boss
In the Great Depression people lost everything but we didn't have these gangbangers and thugs everywhere.

While I agree with your basic point, I have to point out that around about 1934 we saw John Dillinger, Baby Face Nelson, Pretty Boy Floyd, Bonnie & Clyde, and the Barker gang. In some cases these folks were seen as heroes because they stole from banks -- and everyone knew that the evil bankers had caused the Great Depression.

Still, I think there was a more generalized respect for law and order in the 1930's. Today, that is all out the window and if things get bad (and I expect them to) then we will see massive crime and violence.

12 posted on 06/07/2011 6:27:13 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: Meet the New Boss

Good clarification.


13 posted on 06/07/2011 6:27:15 AM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: Kartographer

Come now Kart,
The magic Negro will make all things right for all people


14 posted on 06/07/2011 6:28:04 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: Joe Boucher
Come now Kart, The magic Negro will make all things right for all people.

Well I agree at least for those who play golf he'll be sure and keep the course safe and secure.
15 posted on 06/07/2011 6:31:19 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Source on the 18.5% unemployment of males between 18 and 55?

They mentioned the stat, but no reference of where they came to that number.

Sounds credible, but doubt BLS would admit to it.


16 posted on 06/07/2011 6:33:17 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Meet the New Boss
In the Great Depression people lost everything but we didn't have these gangbangers and thugs everywhere.

Absolutely true. But why?

Because by and large, they didn't have "nothing else to lose". They had their families. They had their friends and neighbors. They had God.

Today, after 50 years of purposeful Progressive destruction, an increasing number of Americans have nothing but government as a support system. And they are either learning that government is a poor substitute for the institutions liberals have labored to destroy - or increasingly, they are lashing out at the impotence and emptiness of their lives.

17 posted on 06/07/2011 6:35:56 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
If this continues, it will be clear that there is a plan for “something” prior to the 2012 elections that will ensure his re-election or no election at all.

It's going to be one hot summer. If not this year then next for sure.

As the economy continues to stumble along and the outlook for Obama's reelection becomes bleak, violence in the cities and on the campuses will break out. Look for massive demonstrations against those evil corporations hoarding their profits and not hiring people.

18 posted on 06/07/2011 6:39:43 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: Erik Latranyi

I think it has something to do with the fact that most of the original stimulus money was never spent. The White Hut is saving that money to buy re-election and they’re confident they have enough cash to do it.


19 posted on 06/07/2011 6:40:07 AM PDT by cbvanb
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To: andy58-in-nh

You said it better than I did, brother.


20 posted on 06/07/2011 6:41:11 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: cbvanb

“I think it has something to do with the fact that most of the original stimulus money was never spent. The White Hut is saving that money to buy re-election and they’re confident they have enough cash to do it.”
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You said a mouthhful that time!!!!!


21 posted on 06/07/2011 6:44:17 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: SMARTY
I suggest what passes for the civil disorder of starving masses elsewhere on the globe is, IN AMERICA, really the public expression of politically exploited and over indulged ‘malcontents’ who taxpayers have ‘carried’ for decades and who would NOT be satisfied NO MATTER what or HOW MUCH assistance they receive.

Agreed. The Government-dependent fattest poor people on the planet share a large subset with the perpetually offended of certain ethnic backgrounds and are most likely to riot and especially loot.

As was demonstrated during the aftermath of Katrina, they only steal to feed theselves and their children. Apparently, in a pinch we can just feed them electronics, jewelry, and high priced vehicles...

22 posted on 06/07/2011 6:48:11 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: SMARTY

Ugh


23 posted on 06/07/2011 7:05:47 AM PDT by Fred911 (YOU GET WHAT YOU ACCEPT)
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To: yldstrk

You are right. Get ready for CWII. This time Zero will ask the UN and his Mooslem buddies to come in and institute Sharia Law.


24 posted on 06/07/2011 7:07:03 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: Kartographer

I write books (”Harry”, “Going Galt”). My next one is “Survivng Civil War II”.

When you start a book like that, you don’t know where it will lead at first. I am far enough along to say we are already in a Civil War, sort of a Cold Civil War with different characteristics than our first civil war. I should be done in a matter of weeks.


25 posted on 06/07/2011 7:21:16 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: Kartographer
Obama is doing just what he planned with the economy.

RECOVERY THUGS - Secretary Geithner_02sm
  RECOVERY THUGS

26 posted on 06/07/2011 7:21:30 AM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: Meet the New Boss
In the Great Depression people lost everything but we didn't have these gangbangers and thugs everywhere.

There were a few miscreants about


They had names like Baby Face Nelson, Pretty Boy Floyd, Bonnie and Clyde, and John Dillinger. They shot up banks, and since the banks had been foreclosing on peoples homes, they were treated has heroes.
27 posted on 06/07/2011 7:57:11 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Kartographer; upchuck; MitchellC
Myrtle Beach, N.C.;

I take it that Bob Livingston is not from these parts... :-)

28 posted on 06/07/2011 8:12:24 AM PDT by NCjim (Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.)
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To: Jack Black

CWII ping


29 posted on 06/07/2011 8:30:28 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: GonzoGOP

What made many of these people heroes is that they would often steal the mortgage paper and then take them out and burn them.


30 posted on 06/07/2011 8:35:59 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
18.5 percent of American males between the ages of 18 and 55 are unemployed

A percent of those man-boys are living in their mama's basement playing video games. See, not quite so bad, huh, huh? Or not.

With so many becoming aware of the current situtation and what's coming, there are more who are prepping. With prepper numbers increasing every day (which I believe they are), one would think there would be a greater demand on the supply which in turn would increase supply jobs to meet that demand. However, we're seeing worse unemployment figures. IMHO, we're worse off than what the numbers are showing and it's only a matter of time before something cracks.

31 posted on 06/07/2011 8:39:10 AM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: CharacterCounts

“Look for massive demonstrations against those evil corporations hoarding their profits and not hiring people.”

I think you’re crediting the malcontents with far too much intelligence. I think it will be more like ‘68. Disappointement and failed expectations fueling riots and social disintegration.

The difference this time is there’s no federal money to throw at “the problem”. I believe therefore there will be an inevitable and brutal crackdown once the Feds admit they’ve lost control of the situation.


32 posted on 06/07/2011 8:49:47 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Kartographer
What made many of these people heroes is that they would often steal the mortgage paper and then take them out and burn them.

Many, Dillinger especially, understood the value of having good press. They never stole money close to home. That way the locals could be counted on to look the other way. Alvin "Creepy" Karpis as well as Bonnie and Clyde were sociopaths. They killed people just for the fun of it.
33 posted on 06/07/2011 8:58:07 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Justa
I think you’re crediting the malcontents with far too much intelligence.

I don't credit malcontents with any intelligence, but I do think Obama himself will be leading the charge against big, evil, corporations. He will set the stage for the violence, act stunned when it happens and propose a solution which punishes the victims. It's his standard method of operation

34 posted on 06/07/2011 9:00:58 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: Kartographer

‘the Federal debt is increasing at a rate of $1,148 per family per month since Obama was sworn in.’

That infuriates me!

‘In fact, the debt grew $3,646,116,554,704.36 from January 2009 to April 2011, when Obama finally said there was a need to get a handle on the debt situation.’


35 posted on 06/07/2011 9:43:02 AM PDT by Freddd (NoPA ngineers.)
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To: Freddd

Debt to finance the deficit is actually the least of it. The government also took on over 5 trillion for Medicare & Social Security liabilities in 2010. Unfunded obligations amount now to hundreds of thousands per household.

And economic growth is expected to make these programs more affordable. Seriously ? I don’t think there is enough money in the world to pay for them. :(


36 posted on 06/07/2011 2:26:58 PM PDT by erlayman
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