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U.N. Agreement Should Have All Gun Owners Up In Arms
http://blogs.forbes.com/larrybell/2011/06/07/u-n-agreement-should-have-all-gun-owners-up-in-arms/ ^

Posted on 06/07/2011 1:53:18 PM PDT by Scythian

Edited on 06/07/2011 6:03:37 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

It may not come as surprising news to many of you that the United Nations doesn’t approve of our Second Amendment. Not one bit. And they very much hope to do something about it with help from some powerful American friends. Under the guise of a proposed global “Small Arms Treaty” premised to fight “terrorism”, “insurgency” and “international crime syndicates” you can be quite certain that an even more insidious threat is being targeted – our Constitutional right for law-abiding citizens to own and bear arms.


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1 posted on 06/07/2011 1:53:18 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

Eff ‘em.

Come and Take It.

Colonel, USAFR


2 posted on 06/07/2011 1:54:46 PM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: jagusafr
Ban the trade, sale and private ownership of all semi-automatic weapons (any that have magazines even though they still operate in the same one trigger pull – one single “bang” manner as revolvers, a simple fact the ant-gun media never seem to grasp).

I just posted my "I bought my first gun" thread yesterday, I'm getting my 2nd one this weekend, this is outrageous ...

3 posted on 06/07/2011 1:56:21 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

UN and whose army?

Molon Labe.


4 posted on 06/07/2011 1:56:42 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Scythian

Molon labe, you bastards! I am waiting!!!


5 posted on 06/07/2011 1:58:58 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (The United States Marine Corps, your greatest friend or your worst enemy. YOU choose.)
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To: Scythian

This is the only way zero thinks he can stay in office. The moment he believes he will be voted out of office, he will turn militant and try to get rid of the Constitution by force.

The more I watch this turnd, the more convinced of CWII.


6 posted on 06/07/2011 1:59:08 PM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: jagusafr
Not much respect for the law, JAG.

I like your style.

7 posted on 06/07/2011 1:59:57 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Scythian

8 posted on 06/07/2011 2:00:40 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: Scythian

You don’t suppose the Gun Runner program was designed to set precedence for getting this ratified by the senate do you?

Makes one think...


9 posted on 06/07/2011 2:01:46 PM PDT by Usually_Disappointed (I think the tree of liberty is getting thirsty...)
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To: DownInFlames

The OIC’s army is what he bends to. And you are right, he will probably invite the UN to control the American insurrection.

The alien Fokker needs to be evicted!


10 posted on 06/07/2011 2:01:58 PM PDT by himno hero ("armageddon is well seeded, America will pay"...Barrack Obama)
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To: Scythian

Our freedom was won by people willing to sacrifice their lives in the process. Many did. It will not be taken away, and for the same reason.


11 posted on 06/07/2011 2:04:38 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: jagusafr
Ditto, sir.

But I want the gun grabbers themselves to come to my door, not send the police or military to do their dirty work. Regardless of who tries to disarm me, it won't be a good day for them.

(Former) Sergeant, US Cavalry

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

12 posted on 06/07/2011 2:04:38 PM PDT by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? http://www.bigdawgmusicmafia.com)
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13 posted on 06/07/2011 2:04:44 PM PDT by Maverick68
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To: Scythian
This comes as no surprise! If you can't do anything in the US to take care of a law you don't like, circumvent the law and go to the UN.
This is no secret. It has been going on for years.
14 posted on 06/07/2011 2:05:34 PM PDT by lucky american (I'm tired.)
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To: Scythian

Will this registry include Africans? Arabs? Somalis?

Will extra harsh penalties be imposed on career criminals for firearm possession, or just on the easy to catch law abiding property owner?

If not, it’s just an end-around by our own government (and others, like the Europeans) to control us using the trick of treaty supremacy.

We know the answer, and we know what’s going on. Our illegitimate government is trying to suppress our rights and our ability to protect ourselves.


15 posted on 06/07/2011 2:05:53 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

‘’Mr. politican, what is it you have planned for me that you’re so damned worried about me owning a gun?’’


16 posted on 06/07/2011 2:06:23 PM PDT by Waco (Nominate Palin or forget 2012 you lost)
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To: Scythian

This has gone on for some time. The Bush Administration told the UN to shove it, of course. But The Regime is on board and GUNG HO in hopes of being able to blame the UN for the confiscation of weapons and the trampling of the 2nd Amendment. Hussein’s problem is, the Senate will have to sign off on any UN imposed treaty of this sort. Will Senate leftists do so?? It will be interesting to watch as NRA golden boy Harry Reid finally smells the opportunity to render Americans helpless against the assault of Big Brother’s jack-boots! Stay tuned...and BY ALL MEANS, ARM YOURSELF!!!!


17 posted on 06/07/2011 2:07:51 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: jagusafr

Amen. The bureaucratic fascists of the UN have no idea what Americans are willing to do to defend our freedom, only because so many of them represent countries where freedom is an abstraction, if it exists at all.


18 posted on 06/07/2011 2:08:43 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Scythian

Can the Senate ratify an unconstitutional treaty?

Can the Supreme court overturn ratification if it is unconstitutional?


19 posted on 06/07/2011 2:09:41 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: jagusafr

That would be the last mistake the UN ever made. I’d love to see them try.


20 posted on 06/07/2011 2:10:26 PM PDT by RC one (DO NOT RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I don’t see the Senate ratifying this piece of sh!t any time soon.


21 posted on 06/07/2011 2:12:45 PM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: himno hero

At least it will be easy to ID the invaders. Blue makes a lousy camouflage color.


22 posted on 06/07/2011 2:12:47 PM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: Sir Napsalot
LOL....we had the Winston P. Wilson match here locally (foreign troops compete with National Guard Units in shooting), and I escorted some French and Italian types to DARC (Direct Action Resource Center (Arkansas' Xe Services LLC-type training facility)) for some shooting fun with a local SWAT team.

Everyone was in BDUs/ACUs/duty uniforms, and the French and Italians that were assigned to KFOR had on their blue berets. As the Rangemaster was giving his safety brief, he was quoting the fields of fire and told the French and Italians to look north at a cluster of homes in the treeline.

He told them, "I don't know if you French and EYEtalians have ever heard of the word "redneck", but over younder is a bunch of mean-ass rednecks that are just itchin' to shoot at a UN helmet, so if I were you, I'd remove your blue headgear and put them in your cargo pocket".

Man, when the translator translated that to them, they all looked north and immediately took off their UN berets. For the next hour, whenever they got a chance, I would always find them looking north. LOL!

23 posted on 06/07/2011 2:13:00 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: Sir Napsalot

I don’t have anything! Really! Nothing! 8^)


24 posted on 06/07/2011 2:15:19 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Scythian
Hillary is closer to Soros than Obama. This is globalist, nwo agenda.
25 posted on 06/07/2011 2:26:55 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: Tatze

Yea, they’ll never get close to a 2/3 majority to pass a treaty.


26 posted on 06/07/2011 2:27:05 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: DownInFlames

“There will be a rifle behind every blade of grass.”


27 posted on 06/07/2011 2:28:37 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport Muslims. Nuke Mecca. Death to Islam. Freedom for mankind.")
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To: RatRipper

A ratified treaty takes precedence over our current laws, etc.


28 posted on 06/07/2011 2:32:06 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Scythian

Well, I’m waiting, come and get ‘em!


29 posted on 06/07/2011 2:32:58 PM PDT by Greystoke
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To: Husker24
Don't forget, this is the Obama Regime. The Constitution states 2/3rd’s of the senators “present” is required to ratify a treaty.
30 posted on 06/07/2011 2:36:34 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: RatRipper; jagusafr
There has been a lot of debate about whether a treaty can supersede the Constitution. It's a murky area. My interpretation is that it can, but not in the realm of fundamental Constitutional rights. That's why Keller was so important — it declared the Second Amendment right to keep and bare arms to be “fundamental.”

Given the Keller and McDonald cases, the SCOTUS would be very likely to strike down the treaty as unconstitutional.

JMHO, of course. Why I copied a real lawyer. What's your take, jagusafr?

31 posted on 06/07/2011 2:44:25 PM PDT by piytar (Obama opposed every tool used to get Osama. So of course he gets the credit. /hurl)
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To: Scythian

to paraphrase Stalin...Just how many divisions does the U.S. have?


32 posted on 06/07/2011 2:45:05 PM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: andy58-in-nh

Don’t waste your time, or more importantly, your life battling the confiscators. Hunt down the ones who sent them. Then teach then an expensive and enduring lesson.


33 posted on 06/07/2011 2:45:33 PM PDT by Noumenon ("One man with courage is a majority." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: TexasRedeye
to paraphrase Stalin...Just how many divisions does the U.S. have?

DARN! Should read "Just how many divisions does the U.N. have?

That's what you get when you are in a hurry and don't proofread!

34 posted on 06/07/2011 2:47:44 PM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: elcid1970

Every outhouse, hen house, wood house, tree, blade of grass, and down every stretch of road. We will make any invader an supporter of the invasion equally liable and targets.

If you down my tenacity, visit NC and SC. The swamps will be our battlefields.


35 posted on 06/07/2011 2:48:59 PM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: Scotsman will be Free

“A ratified treaty takes precedence over our current laws, etc.”

True. A treaty is definitely, without question, supreme over state and federal laws.

However, the question is as follows: What happens if the terms of a treaty conflict the terms of the Constitution? Obvious to anyone on this forum, the answer is that the Constitution prevails. A Supreme Court case on the matter is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reid_v._Covert


36 posted on 06/07/2011 2:49:02 PM PDT by Stat-boy
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To: Scotsman will be Free

“A ratified treaty takes precedence over our current laws, etc.”

No, it does not.

Here’s one site to check out: (There are more)

http://www.uhuh.com/control/contrump.htm


37 posted on 06/07/2011 2:51:02 PM PDT by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization that must be outlawed)
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To: DownInFlames

At least it will be easy to ID the invaders. Blue makes a lousy camouflage color.

#############################

It will not be UN troops who enforce this if it passes. It will be SWAT teams and other jack booted thugs like it was in New Orleans after Katrina.


38 posted on 06/07/2011 2:51:57 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: DCBryan1
He told them, "I don't know if you French and EYEtalians have ever heard of the word "redneck", but over younder is a bunch of mean-ass rednecks that are just itchin' to shoot at a UN helmet, so if I were you, I'd remove your blue headgear and put them in your cargo pocket".

That is absolutely classic!, thanks for sharing....;)

39 posted on 06/07/2011 2:52:05 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: DownInFlames

Blue UN helmets make for a target-rich environment!


40 posted on 06/07/2011 2:53:29 PM PDT by Yorktownpatriot
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To: sergeantdave

Article six of the U.S. Constitution:
...”and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States shall be the supreme law of the land...”


41 posted on 06/07/2011 2:59:45 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Scythian

Its never going to happen. Its infuriating that Barry and Hillary are trying to make the treaty but it takes 2/3rds of the Senate to ratify a treaty and it will never happen. But call your Senator anyway and raise sand about it.


42 posted on 06/07/2011 3:02:25 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Scythian

Ahhhh, come on...

Not this sh!t again!!!

If Rebecca Peters leads the way in the confiscation phase...This will end rather quickly...

I see a whole lotta blue helmets that will never be this unhappy ever again...


43 posted on 06/07/2011 3:06:19 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: Scythian

Just another day in Obamaland.


44 posted on 06/07/2011 3:08:12 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Scythian; Travis McGee; Jack Black

I recommend investing...

I’m going to continue to BLOAT, till it hurts...

“BLOATing...It’s what makes them nervous”

Ohhh, thats good, need to write this one down...


45 posted on 06/07/2011 3:10:05 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: Scythian
feh...

46 posted on 06/07/2011 3:12:25 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: jagusafr

Eff ‘em.

Come and Take It!

Captain, USNR (Ret)


47 posted on 06/07/2011 3:12:53 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: jagusafr

PS

Thank you for your service!


48 posted on 06/07/2011 3:13:33 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Noumenon

When in the course of human events it comes to the people’s attention that they can no longer expect or receive justice or redress, the people must hunt down the miscreants who have denied the people justice or redress and teach them an expensive and enduring lesson.


49 posted on 06/07/2011 3:16:31 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Islam is an instrument of enslavement)
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To: SUSSA

Not enough of them.


50 posted on 06/07/2011 3:17:30 PM PDT by DownInFlames
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