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Army Mutiny Spreads, Syrians Fear Massacre(Sunni troops defect)
OnIslam ^ | 06/07/11

Posted on 06/07/2011 8:33:27 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Army Mutiny Spreads, Syrians Fear Massacre

OnIslam & News Agencies

Tuesday, 07 June 2011 13:45

Residents and activists say Jisr al-Shughur casualties followed a mutiny among forces sent to quell civilian protests.

DAMASCUS – Syrian anti-government protesters warned on Tuesday, June 7, of an expected massacre in the town of Jisr al-Shughur as a long line of military vehicles and enforcements moved towards the tiny town following reports of killing 120 police and army members yesterday.

"Thirteen military vehicles are heading to Jisr al-Shughur," where the alleged massacre took place, an activist in the northwestern town told Agence France Presse (AFP) by telephone.

According to Syrian officials, the new army enforcements headed to the town of Jisr al-Shughur after the authorities said 120 policemen were massacred there.

The death toll is the bloodiest in nearly 12 weeks of popular protests against President Bashar al-Assad's 11-year rule.

(Excerpt) Read more at onislam.net ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: mutiny; sunni; syria; unrest
So is this shaping up to be 'Hama II' ?

Murderous Syrian regime vs murderous Muslim Brotherhood.

1 posted on 06/07/2011 8:33:32 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

According to one thing I read, this was a massacre by government loyalists of defectors in the ranks. How does this fit with the current reports? Is the army moving to shore up the loyalists? That would be my guess.


2 posted on 06/07/2011 8:38:44 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

I think we are reaching a climax soon. The regime and its loyalist would close ranks and strike “hard.”


3 posted on 06/07/2011 8:42:28 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Why do you think Muslim Brotherhood is involved?


4 posted on 06/07/2011 8:48:08 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Uh,duh,,I thought Obozo was going to save people from being killed en mass?


5 posted on 06/07/2011 8:49:04 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: nuconvert

If Sunnis make up bulk of people rebelling against Assad regime, I suppose Muslim Brotherhood would involve itself in the unrest, even if not initially, don’t you think?


6 posted on 06/07/2011 8:54:51 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

They could


7 posted on 06/07/2011 8:56:49 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
If this continues to escalate I would not be surprised to see Turkey intervene on the side of the rebels.

I know...I'm crazy.

Still, that's what I'm thinkin'.

8 posted on 06/07/2011 8:59:38 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

“If this continues to escalate I would not be surprised to see Turkey intervene on the side of the rebels. I know...I’m crazy.”

Just thought I’d repeat that crazy part.


9 posted on 06/07/2011 9:02:32 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I wish these folks would wear different colored tee shirts or something so I can tell who is on whose side. Why on earht are we over there in the midst of all this? Let these various tribal thugs keep knocking each other off. There are no good guys in these conflicts.


10 posted on 06/07/2011 9:43:15 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: nuconvert
"Just thought I’d repeat that crazy part."

I appreciate the boost.

But consider this: Turkey, the Saudi's and Iran are the only contenders for the Caliphate.

Turkey has the biggest and best military of the bunch and share a border and the Kurdish homeland with Syria (and Iraq). These 3 players has been the center of that civilization for longer than there was an Islam, though the Saudi's origins are with Islam.

They will not peacefully coexist forever.

Right now Turkey has the chance to prove itself "moderate Islam" in the yes of the world and to diminish Iran's standing throughout the region. They could do so with near impunity.

The ONLY question is why they DO NOT intervene.

11 posted on 06/07/2011 9:55:29 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Word is Assad has brought in a notorious merc group based in Jordan that belongs loosely to the Alawite tribe. They operate in plain clothes and have been responsible for the worst of the worst going on there recently, including the mutilation of that 13 year old boy. They pull up to houses in vans, bust the door down, torture and kill, and then make it appear as it was committed by say a rival faction or tribe.


12 posted on 06/08/2011 1:08:14 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

Seems to me it’s time for artillery and tanks not death squads.


13 posted on 06/08/2011 1:37:36 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: Mariner
Turkey could be an interesting force here.

Erdogan is trying to make the country more muslim opposing Kemalism. But Turkey under Kemalism has prospered and grown and the citizens don't want to give that up.

Could get interesting and not in a good way.

14 posted on 06/08/2011 4:05:13 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I highly doubt the police were members of the Muslim Brotherhood. Very few protesters in these ME events are. It's akin to saying the Koch brothers were behind the Tea party movement.

Sometimes people are just angry with their government's economic policies.

15 posted on 06/08/2011 4:35:30 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Justa

So what? Tyrannical activist groups have always tried (and often succeeded) to take over such disaffected movements. Can you say “Bolsheviks”, or “Nazis”?


16 posted on 06/08/2011 8:01:36 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I think I’ll arrange to have multiple tons of ammunition air dropped all over Syria, just in case either side runs out.


17 posted on 06/08/2011 8:05:46 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: expatpat

“So what? Tyrannical activist groups have always tried (and often succeeded) to take over such disaffected movements. Can you say “Bolsheviks”, or “Nazis”?”

Can you say “our freedoms were founded by revolutionaries against autocracy”?


18 posted on 06/08/2011 8:57:02 AM PDT by Justa
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To: expatpat

The MB aren’t necessarily active in every country in the region. I don’t know if they have a branch or chapter present in Syria.


19 posted on 06/08/2011 3:32:28 PM PDT by RightCenter
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To: Justa
Muslim Brotherhood has had significant presence in Syria. So much that Assad regime banned it outright and its membership punishable by death. In '82, massive armed uprising by MB broke out in Hama. In the ensuing battle, 10K ~ 30K people were killed. Since then, it went underground.

This underground presence coupled with many sympathizers who have kept their head down may well come out in this uprising. Yes, Assad regime is brutal state sponsor of terror, and many people inside Syria are enraged by the regime. It has been actively developing nuke program in cooperation with N. Korea, and Israeli bombed its nuclear installation(most likely nuclear reactor building according to N. Korean spec.)

However, it also has brutal Muslim Brotherhood. All I am saying is that things may not turn out as positive as we hope. If Assad regime and Muslim Brotherhood both weaken due to this bloody conflict, that would be a positive development.

When passion runs high and blood flows, people become very extreme and Muslim Brotherhood fits nicely with such an atmosphere.

20 posted on 06/08/2011 8:14:33 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: Perdogg; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks TigerLikesRooster.

My wild guess is, the Turks don’t like this one bit, and will make some kind of move — soon.

The Russians have categorically rejected any kind of condemnation of the Syrian dynasty; the Iranians have supported the dynasty as well as one of the candidates to replace it; the Turks think they’ve worked out an understanding, and trade, etc, with the mullahcracy, but a light is beginning to seep in. They’ve been had.

Now they find themselves with an unstable dictatorship to the south on the brink of, well, not collapse, but definitely more bloodshed. They’re starting to face a refugee problem from outside their borders. There’s an ethnic group living inside the borders that wants to carve out its own country there. They’re — hey, what other Middle Eastern nation does this remind you of?


21 posted on 06/10/2011 6:06:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
OnIslam is a Muslim Brotherhood press group.
Doe Hama rules still apply? Can't both sides loose badly?
22 posted on 06/10/2011 10:36:29 PM PDT by rmlew (No Blood for Sarkozy's re-election and Union for the Mediterranean)
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