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Mom says school bus bullies torment young girl
todaystml4.com ^ | 6-7-11 | Rob Koebel

Posted on 06/08/2011 8:52:08 AM PDT by rawhide

MILWAUKEE – Chaos on the school bus and the I-Team catches it all.

Our story starts with a fed up mom. She says her little girl who is only 4 years old is hit, tormented, her glasses broken by other kids and that it happens all the time.

She says MPS hasn't done anything about it so I- Team reporter Rob Koebel takes the case and wait till you see what your tax dollars are paying for now. A school bus ride that is out of control, little children in danger ride after ride. We follow the girl’s entire bus ride cameras rolling.

We spot bus number 83. On board -- a little 4 year-old girl. She goes to Frances Starms Early Childhood Center. But her mom says the little’s girl’s first challenge every day is surviving her bus ride.

Ms. Edwards says, “Nothing has been done I’ve called the school board and the principal”

She claims this small child is being tortured daily, punched, hit by other kids, her glasses broken twice and the torment has been going on for months now.

“She has come home with sores and bumps and even scars up under her neck from certain things being hit on her”, Ms Edwards tells the I-Team Investigators.

The mom says she has begged the school to do something but is only told she needs to get the girl new glasses.

So we decide to take a look at bus number 83 for ourselves.

We find the little girl’s bus loaded up and ready to roll. We are too with our video camera pointed at the windows at the back of the bus.

As the bus pulls away we follow it. Watching and waiting to see what happens...

It only takes a matter of minutes...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bullies; bus; mom; school

1 posted on 06/08/2011 8:52:14 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide

Why is a 4 year old on a bus?

Why does her mother keep putting her back on, day after day?

What is more important to this woman than her daughter’s safety? Her soaps? A job? Going back to bed for two hours?


2 posted on 06/08/2011 8:55:39 AM PDT by JenB
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To: rawhide

My son was bullied on a bus in middle school, and the driver and the school district refused to do anything. I took him and my daughter off of the bus, and drove them to and from school every day until they each graduated. Didn’t have the option of home schooling, as I needed to keep working.


3 posted on 06/08/2011 8:57:15 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: rawhide

I just saw this story on another site. The most obvious thing is that the mother needs to take her daughter off that bus immediately!

The bus driver needs to be fired and she needs to sue the school, the bus company and each parent of each child on the bus. Trust me, that will get results big time.

Of course I would handle it a bit differently but I’d be sitting in jail after that. I guarantee it would never happen again though.


4 posted on 06/08/2011 8:57:55 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland (!@)
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To: rawhide

Where’s Dad? He should put a stop to this.


5 posted on 06/08/2011 8:58:59 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: rawhide

Where are the democrats when you need them. Perhaps she should call her dem congress critter for the help they promised.


6 posted on 06/08/2011 9:03:44 AM PDT by mardi59
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To: rawhide

Have driven my 5th grader (with special needs) to school every school day for six years now, and my 3rd grader for four. My wife picks her and her sister up every afternoon. Seriously, who is able to administer discipline to children on a school bus? The driver? Doesn’t he/she have to control the actual BUS? No thanks; my kids don’t need to spend upwards of an hour a day in some Lord of the Flies situation.

There are some very good teachers and a first class administration at the girls’ public school. Even then, there’s so much nonsense our kids are exposed to - mainly from other kids whose parents don’t give a rat’s behind. Homeschooling begins in August.


7 posted on 06/08/2011 9:07:27 AM PDT by 95Theses (Sola Gratia - Sola Fide - Sola Scriptura)
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To: rawhide

I saw the video on WTMJ 4 news last night. They filmed the bus on several different days and each time the kids on the bus were hitting on others. I can’t figure out why by the second or third day the TV crew didn’t call the cops and ask them to stop the bus and investigate.

The TV station just did the films, asked the Milwaukee School system for comments (MPS is a fraud and never fixes problems) and showed the spot on news. What was shown was criminal behavior and the TV crew or station should have got the cops on the case right away. Plus, most school buses now have cameras and that bus tape could have been seized as evidence - now no doubt erased.


8 posted on 06/08/2011 9:07:51 AM PDT by RicocheT
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To: rawhide
This whole story is so very rich in bureaucratic spin. For example there is this piece; We get this email response from the Milwaukee Public School spokeswoman. She tells me MPS only heard about one incident back in January and that they blame Ms Edward's little girl for that fight.

That is right, a 4 year old girl in glasses causes a fight. I'd have to say that this sounds like a minimum-wage bus driver who (for obvious reasons) doesn't want to be caught 'disciplining' young kids, a school system that spends more time protesting for union benefits in the state capital and finally an argument for competition for our education tax dollar that is so easily lost in the public school morass!

9 posted on 06/08/2011 9:14:02 AM PDT by SES1066 (Michael Moore - a pernicious progluddite of socialism!)
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To: rawhide

She’s repeatedly placing this child in harms way. This is the mentality of the nanny staters though. “Someone’s” gotta do something about this. She feels no responsiblity as she believes the schools job is to protect and babysit from 8a - 4p every weekday. Pathetic. This poor kid probably has nightmares every night about the bus. Sundays must be gruesome because she knows it’s back on the bus tomorrow.


10 posted on 06/08/2011 9:16:58 AM PDT by albie
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To: rawhide
I don't understand why this would have happened twice.

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. ....let alone every day for months.

If this woman's spouse or boyfriend hit and bruised her 4-year-old and she let it go on, she'd have criminal charges against her as an accessory.

What the %$%$#& is wrong with this mother???

11 posted on 06/08/2011 9:18:55 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Pray (Pray!) Oh yes we Pray (Pray!)-- You've Got to Pray Just to Make it Today. --MC Hammer)
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To: rawhide

SPOILED kids grow up to become spoiled adults..
AND THEN.. some unlucky soul marrys them..

Along the way they also disrupt busses, work places and politics..


12 posted on 06/08/2011 9:21:13 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: rawhide

There was home schooling far before government got into the education business..


13 posted on 06/08/2011 9:23:19 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: rawhide

Try showing up at the school in person with a lawyer.Meanwhile,take that poor little child off that effin bus NOW!


14 posted on 06/08/2011 9:27:27 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee ("Criticism......brings attention to an unhealthy state of things"-Winston Churchill)
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To: blueunicorn6

Dad? what’s that?


15 posted on 06/08/2011 9:28:34 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (Khach hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: rawhide
If my child of any age was hitting a 4 y/o girl, we would have a very clear "chat" about the problem, and my child would never do it again. He might need to sit on a pillow for a week or more, but he wouldn't bully a little girl.

My kids were raised knowing that if they ever got in a fight at school, they would be in big trouble at school and then in trouble at home. If they ever watched someone small get bullied and did nothing, they would be in much bigger trouble than if they stepped in and did the right thing. I'm convinced that my kids would have stopped this (it happened twice in their school careers, among all my kids, and I heard for years what a nice influence my kids were on their peers - no one got bullied around my children).

If my child was being hit on the bus, I would have an (initially verbal) chat with the bus driver and the parents of the bullies. If that didn't work, I would get video and prosecute the criminal actions, as well as suing in civil court. I'm not generally a fan of civil lawsuits, but I would make this VERY expensive for a school system that thought it was okay for anyone to beat on a child.

16 posted on 06/08/2011 9:32:59 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: rawhide
When my son was in Junior High, he rode the bus to school. At that age, he was still a little smaller than his classmates. He was kind of quiet, but I could tell something was bothering him. There were 3 boys on his bus ride home that were tormenting him.

The next day, I was there at the bus stop. As soon as my son got off the bus, there were 3 boys following him, taunting him. So I went up to them and asked if they were interested in picking on someone there own size.(I'm paraphrasing myself.) They quickly put 2 and 2 together and started stammering and stuttering. I explained that from now on, not only were they to treat him respectfully, they would also be responsible from making sure others treated him respectfully...and that I knew where they lived and would gladly visit their parents if they didn't behave. Every time they looked at my son, I wanted them to see my angry, red face. (It's what dads do.) One of the boys ended up being good friends with my son.

17 posted on 06/08/2011 9:36:55 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: rawhide

It’s a diversity bus. What do you expect? For them to act like human beings??????


18 posted on 06/08/2011 9:39:48 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: JenB

Exactly my thoughts.


19 posted on 06/08/2011 9:42:40 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: rawhide

An Amish girl who looks about 17 has a 4-year-old child and sends the kid to public daycare with no father in sight. The bus must be full of Amish or else this would be prosecuted as a hate crime. There is so much wrong here it’s just unfortunate that the poor kid has to be the one suffering and her life doomed due to all of the stupidity around her.


20 posted on 06/08/2011 9:45:39 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: rawhide

Before my son ever got into school he was already in karate learning how to defend himself.

Once he got into school I told him that if was ever picked on or bullied by another child that he was to kick their ass with extreme prejudice and that I would back him up 100%.

He’s now 13 and has only had one problem, and that he resolved without violence by confronting the idiot in the hall in front of everyone and daring him to fight him right then and there. Problem solved.

He got up to brown-black belt and has settled a few problems outside of school but that’s a different story.

You need to give your kids the tools to deal with life and then let them deal with it.


21 posted on 06/08/2011 9:49:11 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland (!@)
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To: 95Theses
Mr. Holt was my bus driver in elementry school. Great guy as I remember. If we were acting up he'd stand up at the next stop and tell everyone on the bus to settle down and sit down. Those of us who didn't head the warning were marched straight into the principle's office when we got to school that morning, or the next morning if we acted up on the way home. Yelling and stuff didn't bother him, but if we left our seats... I'm 40 years old and still remember him like it was yesterday. Good times.
22 posted on 06/08/2011 9:57:36 AM PDT by Mathews (Ambition, absent a moral compass, is naked destruction.)
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To: 95Theses
Mr. Holt was my bus driver in elementry school. Great guy as I remember. If we were acting up he'd stand up at the next stop and tell everyone on the bus to settle down and sit down. Those of us who didn't head the warning were marched straight into the principle's office when we got to school that morning, or the next morning if we acted up on the way home. Yelling and stuff didn't bother him, but if we left our seats... I'm 40 years old and still remember him like it was yesterday. Good times.
23 posted on 06/08/2011 9:57:45 AM PDT by Mathews (Ambition, absent a moral compass, is naked destruction.)
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To: Peter from Rutland

What “school” has four year old students?


24 posted on 06/08/2011 9:58:45 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massgopguy

It sounds like this was some kind of pre-school. With buses is very odd though.

I started school when I was 4 but that was a long time ago when such things were actually allowed.


25 posted on 06/08/2011 10:04:58 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland (!@)
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To: rawhide

How many of those kids come from families where everyone’s on Social Security Disability - the new Welfare - welfare without the pesky social workers? That kind of meanness is an unintended consequence of dependency...


26 posted on 06/08/2011 10:08:47 AM PDT by GOPJ (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act. - - Orwell)
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To: rawhide

A simple solution:

TAKE YOUR CHILD TO SCHOOL, OR TAKE HER OUT OF THE SCHOOL. After all, the thugs on the bus are attending the same school.

We removed out children from the public “education” system after instances of neglect and incompetence by the teachers and administrators.


27 posted on 06/08/2011 10:19:49 AM PDT by This Just In (In America, RINO's belong in zoo's, not public office)
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To: rawhide

One of my kids got tired of being attacked on the bus. He asked the bus driver to remove (they were still at school) the thug. The bus driver refused and drove off. At the stop before my kid’s stop, my son had to call 911. This forced the bus driver to stop. The thug got off and ran. The next stop was my kid’s. They thug was there and FLASHED A KNIFE.

That was the LAST day my kid went to school there.

FYI for parents. The policy in my children’s district has been in affect for at least 6-7 years. Even if you don’t throw a punch AND haven’t done a thing, you will be suspended along WITH the perp. I know, someone attacked my kid at school. He didn’t throw a punch, didn’t know a punch was coming. The resource officer told me of the districts policy. With a policy like that, no wonder schools are turning out (figuratively and literally), thugs who know they can get away with it.


28 posted on 06/08/2011 10:26:40 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: knittnmom

I enrolled my kid in karate classes....within a few months, all the bullying stopped!!!!! wonder why???


29 posted on 06/08/2011 10:37:59 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: Mathews

Don’t remember bus drivers I’m afraid.

But we didn’t act up. We even kept prety quiet. If we weren’t quiet, he’d stop the bus, put it in park and put on the break and inform us we weren’t moving until the disturbance stopped.

Fights were conducted at the bus stop, after school, after the bus departed. No one would fight ON a bus. Too dangerous. Might distract the driver.

The closest thing to harassment we had was trying to find a seat. If kids didn’t want you to sit with ‘em they wouldn’t make room for you. Solution was to simply sit at the front - all “cool” (idiot) kids wanted to sit at the back.


30 posted on 06/08/2011 10:50:17 AM PDT by Little Ray (Best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: joe fonebone

My daughter took karate.


31 posted on 06/08/2011 11:05:14 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

I broke a few noses and gained a reputation as a crazy person when angry.


32 posted on 06/08/2011 11:06:32 AM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman!)
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To: machogirl

Stupid policy. Kid’s going to think “I might as well pop this guy since we’re both going to get in trouble anyway.”


33 posted on 06/08/2011 11:20:22 AM PDT by goldi (')
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To: joe fonebone
Had a friend who enrolled his (small for his age) son in a boxing class in an attempt to stop his being bullied. This was after repeated complaints to the principal.

It didn't work, so my friend had a private meeting with the principal.

He told him that the next time his son was attacked, he'd personally break both the principal's legs.

The bullying stopped.

34 posted on 06/08/2011 11:30:56 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: rawhide

It’s as if they are a bunch of monkeys on the bus not humans.


35 posted on 06/08/2011 11:52:57 AM PDT by toddausauras
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To: massgopguy

Four year olds should NOT be riding a bus alone.


36 posted on 06/08/2011 12:20:00 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: goldi

yep. One poor kid had to get staples in his head and he was still suspended.


37 posted on 06/08/2011 12:48:29 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: metmom; wintertime

This is the most tragic reason to homeschool.


38 posted on 06/08/2011 1:21:55 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Muslims are a people of love, peace, and goodwill, and if you say that they aren't, they'll kill you)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
So I went up to them and asked if they were interested in picking on someone there own size.

Good for you! When stuff like this happens, dads need to step up and stop it. About 25 years ago my daughter was being tormented by a girl several years older. So I took off work and confronted the tormentor near the school. Told her I knew the path she took home and where she lived, and unless she stayed away from my daughter I would make sure the problem was solved. My daughter never got bothered by her again. I know, nowadays I'd probably get arrested by the PC people. But dads gotta do what is necessary.

39 posted on 06/08/2011 1:33:26 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: machogirl

In that case I would have instructed my child to proceed with beating the shit out of the bully, and all with my full support.


40 posted on 06/08/2011 1:44:13 PM PDT by montyspython (This thread needs more cowbell)
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To: roadcat
But dads gotta do what is necessary.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

A bully in our neighborhood, who was about 8, took a lighter and burned the thumb of my younger brother who was 6. My older brother who was then 16 had a quiet and private talk with the little thugger. After that my brother and I never, at any time, had any trouble with bullies in the neighborhood or in school.

Another example:

My oldest brother worked for my uncle who owned greenhouses. When there were big holidays, my older brother, who was then about 13, would sell the flowers to passengers getting off the Philadelphia Kensington Avenue elevated train. Two gays started making advances to my brother and this continued over several days. When my uncle learned about it, he and another uncle had a “quiet and private” talk with these men. They were never seen in the neighborhood again.

Final example:

Drug dealers set up shop on a corner in my older brother's neighborhood. ( He was married and had a family and in his forties by then.) He and another neighbor had a very polite, “quiet, and private” talk with the druggies. They pointed out the roof tops in the area and noted how easy it would be to have a sniper up on one of those roofs. They explained that the police would likely not be terribly interested in thoroughly investigating any injury done to drug dealers and would write any shooting incident off as being a “drive by”. The next day the druggies were gone.

41 posted on 06/08/2011 1:58:29 PM PDT by wintertime
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42 posted on 06/08/2011 2:19:01 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: rawhide
Our story starts with a fed up mom. She says her little girl who is only 4 years old is hit, tormented, her glasses broken by other kids and that it happens all the time.

Ms. Edwards says, “Nothing has been done I’ve called the school board and the principal”

She claims this small child is being tortured daily, punched, hit by other kids, her glasses broken twice and the torment has been going on for months now.

“She has come home with sores and bumps and even scars up under her neck from certain things being hit on her”, Ms Edwards tells the I-Team Investigators.

The mom says she has begged the school to do something but is only told she needs to get the girl new glasses.

And the idiot mother keeps putting her daughter on this bus for what reason exactly?????????

The heck with the schools. Physical abuse is assault and the police should be involved. Yank the kid and report it before the PARENT gets charged with abuse herself. You know that anyone involved will deny it and the suspicion and blame will be put on the mom.

This reminds me of a sci-fi short story I read once by (IIRC) Ray Bradbury, about how bad schools had become. Back in the 70's it was fiction. Today it's not.

43 posted on 06/08/2011 2:25:23 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: rawhide
The mom says she has begged the school to do something but is only told she needs to get the girl new glasses.

First mistake. Trying to reason with them. They know they have a pushover on their hands. She's BEGGING them to do something?

No. You DEMAND that something be done and threaten them with a big, nasty lawsuit if her daughter comes home with one more mark on her.

That is if the idiot mother can't think of the alternative of just yanking the child from public school to save her life

44 posted on 06/08/2011 2:27:52 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: 95Theses

Join the crowd. You won’t regret it.

If you need any help or advice on curriculum, there’s a whole passel of us homeschoolers to ask.


45 posted on 06/08/2011 2:30:18 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: rawhide
“It should have been nipped in the butt a long time ago and it’s not”, Edwards said.

LOL!

46 posted on 06/08/2011 3:00:44 PM PDT by Eaker (The problem with the internet, you're never sure of the accuracy of the quotes. Abraham Lincoln '65)
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To: metmom
I learned to not to be nice to principals etc when my kids were in school. When I was I got nowhere. When Sassy was in school I became involved in everything, questioned them to death about everything. When I was a class mother I got to see more then most parents since now they won't even let you bring the cupcakes to the classroom. Parents have no clue or just don't care what goes on the bus or at school until it becomes an issue. I am so happy I home school & don't deal with issues & public school fools! Bullie's parents are usually bullies themselves, monkey see monkey do...

If this mother is so stupid that she puts her baby (4 yrs to me is still a baby) willingly on a bus where she knows her child is abused I see little hope for the child. Maybe a family member will step in & get the cops,lawyers etc involved. Shaking my head again & praying for this child.

47 posted on 06/08/2011 6:46:53 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you.)
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