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A Million Electric Vehicles - The president wants them by 2015, but 2064 is...more realistic.
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE ^ | June 7, 2011 | Robert Bryce

Posted on 06/08/2011 11:56:53 AM PDT by neverdem

A Million Electric Vehicles
The president wants them by 2015, but 2064 is a more realistic estimate.

Back in January, during his State of the Union speech, President Obama said that he wanted the U.S. to “become the first country to have 1 million electric vehicles on the road,” and he wanted it to happen by 2015. Given current sales of the Chevy Volt and Nissan Leaf, the president may hit his target . . . sometime in 2064.

In May, U.S. sales for the much-hyped Volt totaled 481. The Leaf did better, with 1,142 units sold. That’s a grand total of 1,623 electric cars sold for the month. At that torrid rate, it will take about 639 months, or a bit more than 53 years, for domestic sales of electric vehicles to reach 1 million.

Of course, none of this is surprising. Electric cars are the Next Big Thing, and they always will be. What is, ahem, shocking, is just how gullible the Obama administration, and much of the mainstream media, has been about the potential for electric cars to garner a significant share of the market.

Why would consumers buy a Volt, which gets 40 miles per gallon on the highway and costs $40,000, when they can buy a Chevy Cruze, which sells for less than half that amount, is nearly identical in size, and gets 42 miles per gallon? The answer is, they wouldn’t. In May, General Motors sold 22,711 Cruzes(PDF). Put another way, for every Chevy shopper who chose the Volt, 47 others decided the Cruze was a better value.

Johan de Nysschen, the president of Audi of America, predicted the Volt’s low-amperage future nearly two years ago when he said that “no one is going to pay a $15,000 premium for a car that competes with a Corolla . . . there are not enough idiots who will buy it.

One could say that comparing the Volt with the Cruze is unfair, because the two cars appeal to different demographics. Last year, Deloitte Consulting released a report on electric vehicles that found that the most likely buyers are people with household incomes “in excess of $200,000” and “who already own one or more vehicles.” But in May, GM sold 11,623 Cadillacs — 24 for every Volt it sold.

The Deloitte study concluded that the U.S. now has about 1.3 million consumers who “fit the demographic and psychographic profiles” of expected electric-vehicle buyers. It went on to say that mass adoption of electric cars “will be gradual” and that by 2020, perhaps 3 percent of the U.S. car market could be amenable to them. Think about that: Out of some 300 million Americans, perhaps 1.3 million of them are inclined to buy an electric vehicle today, and perhaps 9 million will be willing to consider it a decade from now. And as the lackluster sales of the Volt and the Leaf show, only a tiny fraction of that fraction are actually buying electric cars, even though they could get a $7,500 federal tax credit for doing so.

As de Nysschen made clear two years ago, all of this was easily predictable. Consider a New York Times report contending that the electric car “has long been recognized as the ideal solution” because it “is cleaner and quieter” and “much more economical” than gasoline-fueled cars. That’s from Nov. 12, 1911. Or consider this assessment by a believing reporter: “Prices on electric cars will continue to drop until they are within reach of the average family.” That line appeared in the Washington Post on Halloween, 1915.

Obama’s electric-vehicle fetish reflects much of the inanity of our discussions about energy. The idea that oil is bad, and that we must therefore throw vast sums of money at efforts to fuel our automotive fleet with something else — anything else — ignores both economic realities and the myriad problems inherent with electric vehicles.

Those problems were delineated in a 2009 report published by the Department of Energy’s Office of Vehicle Technologies, which said that despite the enormous investments being made in plug-in hybrid-electric vehicles and lithium-ion batteries, four key barriers stand in the way of their commercialization: cost, performance, abuse tolerance, and life. The key problem, according to these analysts: batteries. The report concludes that lithium-based batteries, which it calls “the most promising chemistry,” are three to five times too expensive, are lacking in energy density, and are “not intrinsically tolerant to abusive conditions.”

The energy density of batteries has been the biggest issue for electric cars for 100 years. By weight, gasoline contains about 80 times as much energy as even the best lithium-ion batteries. Of course, electric-car supporters will immediately retort that electric motors are about four times as efficient as internal-combustion engines. But even with that advantage, gasoline will still have 20 times the energy density of batteries. And that is an essential advantage when it comes to automobiles, where weight, storage space, and the distance one can travel without refueling are critical considerations.

Nevertheless, some true believers still contend that electric vehicles are for real. And some of those believers are writing unsigned editorials for the New York Times; just seven months ago, one such editorial proclaimed that “electric cars could eventually be a real game-changer.”

Um, yes, “could” and “eventually.” My advice: Don’t bother waiting by the wall socket in your garage.

— Robert Bryce, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, is the author, most recently, of Power Hungry: The Myths of “Green” Energy and the Real Fuels of the Future.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; Technical
KEYWORDS: debt; default; economy; morons; obama
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1 posted on 06/08/2011 11:56:55 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

2064 will be fine. I’ll be 100 years old and not driving much anyway.


2 posted on 06/08/2011 11:59:59 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: neverdem

Socialists don’t CARE about physics. The just know what they want. Luddites, all of them - exept when it comes to new ways of butchering babies.


3 posted on 06/08/2011 12:00:24 PM PDT by Pecos (Constitutionalist. Liberty and Honor will not die on my watch.)
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To: neverdem

Equivalent Exchange. As if electric companies don’t use fossil fuels to supply electricity to the electric vehicles. That, and the burden of toxic batteries. You can’t create something out of nothing, unless your the big G.


4 posted on 06/08/2011 12:01:23 PM PDT by Palter (We can't afford a Republican or Dem President. We are broke.)
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To: neverdem

5 posted on 06/08/2011 12:04:02 PM PDT by Red Badger (Nothing is a 'right' if someone has to give it to you................)
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To: cripplecreek

6 posted on 06/08/2011 12:05:08 PM PDT by Red Badger (Nothing is a 'right' if someone has to give it to you................)
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To: neverdem

Do any of these people have a clue where electricity comes from? I asked a recent Volt owner “why?” ... he said this will be the beginning of saving the planet because fossil fuels are not depleted. I couldn’t believe it ... this guy, (supposedly, I now wonder) ... is a college graduate and a “middle executive” in a large organization. These people actually think electricity comes out of a socket ... but they haven’t a clue how it got there. I’m really amazed.


7 posted on 06/08/2011 12:05:20 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (You are just jealous because the voices aren't talking to YOU!)
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To: neverdem

Maybe by 2064 this technology will be viable, but I sure don’t see it happening before then.

Since Obama is against both coal mining and nuclear energy, I suppose we are about to gear up for some major “D” battery production?


8 posted on 06/08/2011 12:07:27 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: neverdem

These people are the type who think milk and beef are made in the store.


9 posted on 06/08/2011 12:08:22 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Buckeye McFrog

10 posted on 06/08/2011 12:09:19 PM PDT by Red Badger (Nothing is a 'right' if someone has to give it to you................)
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To: lurk

And think hunting is wrong but eat beef, pork, and chicken from the grocery store. The processing plants are much more animal friendly! s/


11 posted on 06/08/2011 12:11:58 PM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (A house divided against itself cannot stand.” Abraham Lincoln)
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To: neverdem

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12 posted on 06/08/2011 12:12:17 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: neverdem

Unless GM can get the price of the Volt down $15,000 or more it’s going to be a car for the well off enviro-nazis as a status symbol.


13 posted on 06/08/2011 12:12:17 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: neverdem
Let's see now......

Does this here new fangled eeeee-lectric veehicle cost more than it's gasoline driven counterpart?

Does this here new fangled eeeee-lectric veehicle have batteries?

How do we re-charge these here batteries? (hint: electricity generated from an oil fired power plant)

How long do the batteries in this here eeeee-lectric veehicle last in normal usage? (hint: don't guess over three years).

How much do it cost to replace these here batteries? (hint: would about 10 grand give you pause?)

Yepper....let's all run right out and spend in excess of $28K to buy one of these here eeeeee-lectric veehicles!

Oh...I forget. Can a person without a job, whose had their home foreclosed and has no credit, get a loan to buy one of these here eeeeeee-lectric veehicles??

To say that the stain is a complete and total waste of air is to overstate the case by a very wide margin indeed.

14 posted on 06/08/2011 12:13:23 PM PDT by Logic n' Reason (The stain must be ERADICATED....NOW!!)
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To: neverdem

Electric cars are for those who can’t do an energy balance.

Not to mention the batteries have to go somewhere.


15 posted on 06/08/2011 12:13:59 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: cripplecreek

the idiot Volt defenders should be showing up shortly, led by what’s his name-truthguy?
The concept is a joke.


16 posted on 06/08/2011 12:14:50 PM PDT by bfree (The revolution is coming - OBAMI IS THE ENEMY OF FREEDOM)
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To: neverdem
Yep! Battery powered cars is the way to go! Just plug'er in and charge'er up! The electric company will supply all the power you need for that pollution free battery powered car!


17 posted on 06/08/2011 12:15:26 PM PDT by CharlyFord
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To: neverdem
If you tried hard enough, you could make them by 2015.

No one'd buy them, but you might be able to make them...

18 posted on 06/08/2011 12:17:38 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: neverdem
“become the first country to have 1 million electric vehicles on the road,” and he wanted it to happen by 2015

Management by fiat AKA "Thus I have spoken and so it shall be done". No truer sign that a person has no clue what they are talking about, in any walk of life.

19 posted on 06/08/2011 12:18:03 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Are you prepared?)
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To: Logic n' Reason
Can a person without a job, whose had their home foreclosed and has no credit, get a loan to buy one of these here eeeeeee-lectric veehicles??

Probably... through some government program or another, as long as they buy from Government Motors.

20 posted on 06/08/2011 12:19:13 PM PDT by Ingtar (Together we go broke (from a Pookie18 post))
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