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Ann Coulter Educates The View's Joy Behar on Reagan Tax Cuts
Newsbusters ^ | 6/8/11 | Eric Ames

Posted on 06/08/2011 4:01:53 PM PDT by markomalley

Author Ann Coulter sparred with Joy Behar on Reaganomics on Wednesday's episode of The View. "How are you going to solve it if you don't have any revenue coming in?" asked Joy Behar of the conservative commentator, who is currently promoting her latest book, Demonic. "When Reagan cut taxes, each year, as the taxes went down, revenue to the treasury went up" Coulter responded.

As The View's most ardent leftist, Behar went on to try to blame bad loans and the housing crisis on Republicans. Coulter merely rebutted with the facts. "You cannot blame the Republicans on that" said Coulter. "The big banks then bundled them to the mortgage-backed securities, they got spread out into everyone's portfolio. So it was like a poison in the economy."

Coulter also deflected blows delivered by Whoopi Goldberg, who trolled out the classic trope of the Clinton surpluses being annihilated by the Bush tax cuts. "Where did that money go? What happens? What's happening?" the comedian asked. "Social security, Medicare, Medicaid, paying congressional salaries" Coulter shot back.

The View's audience was audibly irritated by Coulter's suggestion that entitlements were part of the problem. "I'd even go beyond blaming the politicians. I mean, it is the people. It's very hard to take their treats away. Once you start giving them the treats to tell them we're going to take them away is very hard." Elisabeth Hasselbeck, who did not intervene in this discussion, tried to maneuver the conversation in the direction of Coulter's new book, but was cut off by Behar, who apparently took offense at Coulter's characterization of government entitlements. "A lot of is it is not treats. A lot of it is necessities, let's not get on that track. It's not treats for some people, Ann." Coulter rebutted by pointing out one of the most obvious flaws with the entitlement system. "Ok, but how about treats being Social Security going to Donald Trump, because that's the way the system is set up right now?

Wednesday's encounter on The View provides more evidence, if any were needed, that intelligent commentary is best left to those who have some idea of what they are talking about. Suffice it to say that the population of ABC's morning gaggle of giggles does not meet this apparently insurmountably high bar.

A transcript of the exchange, which aired at 11:26 Wednesday on ABC, follows below:

JOY BEHAR: I want to know what you think a Republican would do that the Democrats can't do?

ANN COULTER: Well, I don't want to sound too wonky, but it would be-. Peter Ferrara keeps writing about -

BEHAR: Who is he?

COULTER: -he's just a brilliant writer, economist, I think he's with CATO. And he keeps writing: "okay, this is what Reagan did to turn the Carter economy around, you know, cut regulation, cut taxes, this, that." He says Obama looks like he studied what Reagan did and did exactly the opposite, and when I came on your show when you were sitting in for Larry King it was about a month into the Obama administration and I believe I was pessimistic about him turning the economy around because he's doing all of the things, micro managing from the top, big government, raise taxes.

BEHAR: But he hasn't been able to raise the taxes, the taxes are still in place.

COULTER: The debt's going up. Taxes are going to have to go up at some point.

BEHAR: You heard that, you heard that. That's a Republican saying that.

COULTER: Well, because the debt's going up because you're spending.

BEHAR: Well how are you going to solve it if you don't have any revenue coming in? You've got to do something.

COULTER: Well what- well what this is, and this is counterintuitive, but you must trust me on this, it's in every Thomas Sowell book ever written. When Reagan cut taxes, each year, as the taxes went down, revenue to the treasury went up. When people say, which is disingenuous and sort of a sleight of hand, is, "yes, but the deficit grew." That's because for each additional dollar he brought in, congress would spend three more dollars. I mean, you can't overcome that, but more revenue came into the treasury the more you cut because people-

WHOOPI GOLDBERG: Then how do you explain what happened once Bush got in? Because we had money when, when Clinton left. So what has happened? I know you have,I know you have an idea.

COULTER: It was, and this is so going to drive your viewers away, but I mean we know

GOLDBERG: Believe me. You can't drive them away. A lot of stuff will drive them away, but not you. Trust us.

COULTER: We do know it came from - thank you - we do know it came from the housing market crash, and you had the government - Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, HUD, pushing these politically correct, suicidal loans, they were allowing unemployment benefits to be used as collateral for mortgages. Then you have the big banks.

BEHAR: And who allowed that?

COULTER No no no, oh, no. You cannot blame the Republicans on that. Just let me finish the train before you get to that. The big banks -

BEHAR: You can't?.

COULTER: - the big banks then bundled them to the mortgage-backed securities, they got spread out into everyone's portfolio. So it was like a poison in the economy.

GOLDBERG: Not that. What happened to the money that Clinton left in the-? That's what I'm asking. What happened to the money that Clinton left -

BEHAR: A war was started.

GOLDBERG: - Oh god child. Clinton left when he left office? Where did that money go? What happens? What's happening?

COULTER: Social security, Medicare, Medicaid, paying congressional salaries.

GOLDBERG: So are we not all guilty, then?

COULTER: Sure.

GOLDBERG: Isn't it both parties that have -

BEHAR: Screwed up.

GOLDBERG: - messed this up? Messed this up? It's not just one. So shouldn't we try to figure out how to fix it together?

COULTER: Yes. And Not only that, I'd even go beyond blaming the politicians. I mean, it is the people. It's very hard to take their treats away. Once you start giving them the treats, -

GOLDBERG: That's right.

COULTER: - to tell them we're going to take them away is very hard.

GOLDBERG: That's absolutely right. So it's all of us.

BEHAR: A lot of is it is not treats. A lot of it is necessities, let's not get on that track. It's not treats for some people, Ann. Some people need the money. I would not have survived. When I - when I got fired from my job from Good Morning America, I was a single, divorced mother. If I didn't have unemployment insurance, I would [censored].

COULTER: Ok. But how about treats being Social Security going to Donald Trump, because that's the way the system is set up right now?

BEHAR: Well, fix that part.


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1 posted on 06/08/2011 4:01:55 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: Syncro

ping!


2 posted on 06/08/2011 4:05:50 PM PDT by BufordP ("Drink me if you can't take a joke." -- Kool-aid)
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To: BufordP

Ann Coulter versus Joy Behar is like fighting a battle of wits with an unarmed man.


3 posted on 06/08/2011 4:08:24 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: markomalley
Poor defense on Ann's part here IMO.

She did NOT explain how tax cuts stimulate the economy.

She had a great chance because it seemed like they were listening, but blew it.

4 posted on 06/08/2011 4:09:43 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: markomalley
BEHAR: Well, fix that part. (means-testing social security)

Somehow that never seems to get done, Joy.

5 posted on 06/08/2011 4:11:45 PM PDT by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: markomalley

Stupid liberals want to give Clinton credit for building up a surplus, but any 9th grader knows that congress holds the purse strings. The credit really belongs to that Republican congress.


6 posted on 06/08/2011 4:11:45 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: markomalley

7 posted on 06/08/2011 4:13:35 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Until Reagan rises from the dead: Thank God McCain didnt win. Obama's better than some RINO.)
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To: forgotten man

Sort of reminds me of the Battle of Wits in the Princess Bride.


8 posted on 06/08/2011 4:17:24 PM PDT by scbison
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To: forgotten man
[GOLDBERG: That's absolutely right. So it's all of us.]

But admitting that both parties were responsible is what placated Whoopie and Behar.

9 posted on 06/08/2011 4:20:50 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: markomalley
“COULTER: Ok. But how about treats being Social Security going to Donald Trump, because that's the way the system is set up right now?

BEHAR: Well, fix that part.”
Then Donald Trump should not have to pay for it Joy and Ann.

So it's all of our fault—I am so sick of that. Is it our fault that the congress votes for things and imposes them on us without reading it. I do not care for any of those women including Ms. Coulter although she is not as bad as Whoopi and Joy.



10 posted on 06/08/2011 4:21:26 PM PDT by funfan
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To: Siena Dreaming
She did NOT explain how tax cuts stimulate the economy.
Nor how the "big three" failures - SS, Medicare, Medicaid - are all DemocRAT programs.
Nor HTH this country survived into the 20th century w/o an income tax.
11 posted on 06/08/2011 4:23:14 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Siena Dreaming

that’s because it didnt’ fit her goal. Her goal?

Sell her book.


12 posted on 06/08/2011 4:24:58 PM PDT by Freddd (NoPA ngineers.)
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To: markomalley

ROSIE O’DONNELL: I have no idea. But to say that we don’t know it was imploded, that there was implosion in the demolition, is beyond ignorant. Look at the film. Get a physics expert here from Yale, from Harvard. Pick the school. It defies reason.


13 posted on 06/08/2011 4:26:10 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: markomalley

The mark of a good liberal is the ability to ignore facts.


14 posted on 06/08/2011 4:28:19 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Siena Dreaming
Poor defense on Ann's part here IMO.

She's good but she's no Thomas Sowell. Besides, how much could she have explained with these harpies constantly interrupting? They have their minds already made up and they weren't really listening.

15 posted on 06/08/2011 4:31:04 PM PDT by Bullish
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To: oh8eleven
She didn't do a lot of things correctly, which is why... while I still read her and like her... I do not consider her anything but a successful “mostly” Conservative author.

LLS

16 posted on 06/08/2011 4:31:05 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("Do you want to save America? Then start acting and THINKING like you do"!)
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To: funfan

If Trump doesn’t get his SS check then lets just call SS what it is, welfare. When one group pays for another groups benefits that’s welfare.


17 posted on 06/08/2011 4:43:04 PM PDT by DB
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To: markomalley
CHRISTIE COULTER
18 posted on 06/08/2011 4:43:20 PM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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To: markomalley
MIKE SAVAGE ONCE OPINED THAT HELL IS DEFINED AS A PLACE

'WHERE REASON DOES NOT EXIST'

....ANN MARCHES IN....WHERE ANGELS FEAR TO TREAD ....
19 posted on 06/08/2011 4:45:27 PM PDT by flat
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To: markomalley
"Wednesday's encounter on The View provides more evidence, if any were needed, that intelligent commentary is best left to those who have some idea of what they are talking about.

Suffice it to say that the population of ABC's morning gaggle of giggles does not meet this apparently insurmountably high bar."

ROTFLMAO!

20 posted on 06/08/2011 4:48:57 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: markomalley

**WAIT***

behar lost her job @ good morning america... and went on unemployment???

are you freakin kidding me?

did she need it? i’m 100% certain that job pays a tad more then $50k/year. what? couldn’t she save anything? didn’t she have enough to hold her until the next gig showed up?

i’ve gone months (not intentionally, like now) where i’ve been looking for work... and not once in my life have i ever collected unemployment (i’m not sure i’d know where to start, even if i wanted to, which i dont)

this is a sign of the problem. and one reason i intentionally stopped working and paying in. i refuse to pay for people like that.

mooching scumbags, all of them


21 posted on 06/08/2011 4:49:46 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: markomalley
Someone needs to tell Medusa the "great" Clinton economy was built on a box of...

and bullsh#t...and that many of the woes the country faces today are directly attributed to the grifters(Clinton's)and their selfish, greedy, corrupt friends(both here and abroad)playing their games.

22 posted on 06/08/2011 4:50:26 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (I prefer liberty with danger to peace with slavery, IXNAY THE TSA!)
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To: Siena Dreaming
"Poor defense on Ann's part here IMO."

I keep seeing these posts on FR about how 'wonderful' Anne is and how she schools the opposition, but these days she acts almost as if she does not believe herself. She always seems to allow her opposition to steamroller right over her. Granted, her opposition shouts, screams and drools, but is that a reason to allow them to win.

23 posted on 06/08/2011 4:54:28 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Last Dakotan

Precisely - also, what was not mentioned is that the economy was going into a recession when Bush came to office, even before the 9/11 attacks. Bush blew it big time when he went along with Kennedy on the No Child Left Behind and the Medicare Drug benefit - plus the debacle of the Pelosi Congress in 2006 —the beginning of the end. Clinton benefits from the Repub Congress & Bush tanks under the Dem Congress. IN the end, they’re all Big Govt. Boobs, and none of them deserve to be defended.


24 posted on 06/08/2011 4:54:57 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Last Dakotan

What surplus did Clinton leave? The National Debt kept growing and was higher than when he became POTUS. Plus we were heading into a recession at the time, so the surplus was going to be VERY temporary anyway. If you find a hundred dollar bill on the street, but you have $6000 in credit card debt, you have a “surplus” that is meaningless.


25 posted on 06/08/2011 4:57:25 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: BufordP

Poor Joyless Bear, she would not have survived going from Good Morning America to this gig making $5 Million per year. Isn’t she supposed to be a comedian and couldn’t she work at that while she was waiting for her DNC propagandist job? What a greedy baffoon.

Pray for America


26 posted on 06/08/2011 4:58:15 PM PDT by bray (Hey Country Club, hold Sarah's coat while she kicks his ____.)
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To: markomalley
For most of the Bush (43) compassionate conservative years, conservative pundits were accusing the Federal Government of spending money like a drunken sailor. So, why do conservatives now allow themselves to be sucked into defending that spending. Just admit it. It was a mistake. We knew it then. We said it then. It's still true.

The Federal Government has been spending too much money for far too many years. That's a fact.

27 posted on 06/08/2011 4:58:34 PM PDT by CharlyFord
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To: Sioux-san

IIRC - Clinton’s presidency did not go into “surplus” (whatever that word means in DC nowadays) until the Democrats lost control of Congress to the Republicans.


28 posted on 06/08/2011 5:00:28 PM PDT by Senator John Blutarski
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To: Sioux-san

IIRC - Clinton’s presidency did not go into “surplus” (whatever that word means in DC nowadays) until the Democrats lost control of Congress to the Republicans.


29 posted on 06/08/2011 5:00:46 PM PDT by Senator John Blutarski
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To: RckyRaCoCo
Doesn't anyone remember the “peace dividend?”

The surpluses during the Clinton administration were almost entirely the result of the fall of the soviet empire and the Clinton's winding down the cold war military. The soviet empire failed as a result of Regan and Bush 41 policies. Bush 43 was forced to build the military back up because of 9-11 and because Clinton left it in shambles..

30 posted on 06/08/2011 5:08:22 PM PDT by LOC1
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To: Tallguy
BEHAR: Well, fix that part. (means-testing social security)

Somehow that never seems to get done, Joy.

Neither does means testing your 401K or your other assets.

31 posted on 06/08/2011 5:12:28 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Senator John Blutarski

You have that backwards. It was under the Newt-led house that the budget became temporarily controllable and had a surplus (under some, but not all, definitions).

The Republicans kept grinding away at Clintoon until he signed their budgets with far less spending than what he wanted.

Check any chart that shows government spending and deficit levels and superimpose which party ran the congressional houses and you’ll see a correlation. Republicans aren’t great, but overall they tend to spend less.

The early Bush 43 years were an anomaly. Republicans had the white house, the senate and the house of reps and still overspent to reward their establishment buddies.


32 posted on 06/08/2011 5:13:20 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ((((( )))))
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To: forgotten man
Ann Coulter versus Joy Behar is like fighting a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

Think about that for a minute...

33 posted on 06/08/2011 5:26:22 PM PDT by norton
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To: DB
If Trump doesn’t get his SS check then lets just call SS what it is, welfare. When one group pays for another groups benefits that’s welfare.

Just because it bears repeating.

34 posted on 06/08/2011 5:36:11 PM PDT by norton
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To: DB
Exactly. I do not believe in means testing-if you pay into the system by force which is what you do than you should
receive at least what you put in back when you retire regardless of how much money you have.
35 posted on 06/08/2011 5:38:43 PM PDT by funfan
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To: forgotten man
Ann Coulter versus Joy Behar is like fighting a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
36 posted on 06/08/2011 5:46:19 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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To: Talisker

Or a leopard against a crocodile.


37 posted on 06/08/2011 5:47:09 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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To: potlatch
But admitting that both parties were responsible is what placated Whoopie and Behar.

That doesn't matter. The truth is, both parties are responsible. There are a lot of RINOs who need to be removed from office, including Bohner.

38 posted on 06/08/2011 5:58:59 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: markomalley
Fried Whoopi ala Joy Behar.

Terrible fare.

39 posted on 06/08/2011 6:06:04 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: markomalley
BEHAR: A lot of is it is not treats. A lot of it is necessities, let's not get on that track. It's not treats for some people, Ann. Some people need the money. I would not have survived. When I - when I got fired from my job from Good Morning America, I was a single, divorced mother. If I didn't have unemployment insurance, I would [censored].

Coulter should have said, "Even with your lousy ratings, your income at GMA was many times the income of your average viewer. Perhaps if you had lived a bit below your means, you could have saved a few bucks for just these types of emergencies and would not have needed unemployment welfare. That's the problem with liberals: They don't think ahead and spend way more than their means."

COULTER: Ok. But how about treats being Social Security going to Donald Trump, because that's the way the system is set up right now?

Coulter should have referred to the govenrment "treats" going to well-paid talk show hosts and others in the leftist Hollywood elite.

40 posted on 06/08/2011 6:07:04 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: markomalley

Overlooking the fact that Clinton’s “surplus” was only because he gutted the military. Give me a break!


41 posted on 06/08/2011 6:17:20 PM PDT by Rockiette (Democrats are not intelligent)
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To: funfan
Then Donald Trump should not have to pay for it Joy and Ann.

Indeed - if Donald Trump paid in, then the government owes him the benefit that HE PAID FOR. The problem isn't that Donald Trump might collect social security - the problem is that for every Donald Trump, there are many, many freeloaders getting way more than they paid into the system. This is especially true of Social Security disability payments - I'd bet that 90% of the claims are fraudulent.

42 posted on 06/08/2011 6:22:19 PM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: meyer
Your are right but I was just speaking to what the loud mouths Behar and Goldberg had said using Trump as an example of Evil Rich person getting SS benefits and Coulter basically agreeing with them.
43 posted on 06/08/2011 6:30:02 PM PDT by funfan
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To: markomalley

When Reagan took office in January 1981, the IRS was raking in $500 billion per year.

When Reagan left office eight years later, the IRS was raking in $950 billion per year. The economy grew substantially.


44 posted on 06/08/2011 6:40:26 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Palin / West in 2012 or West / Palin. Either combination will serve America well.)
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To: Grizzled Bear
[That doesn't matter.]

It matters in that they don't have the political knowledge to argue with Coulter so her admission consoled them when they ran out of ammunition, lol.

And - of course there are a lot of RINO’s who need to be removed but it's not going to happen in one fell swoop.

45 posted on 06/08/2011 6:43:17 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: meyer
Your are right but I was just speaking to what the loud mouths Behar and Goldberg had said using Trump as an example of Evil Rich person getting SS benefits and Coulter basically agreeing with them.
46 posted on 06/08/2011 6:46:36 PM PDT by funfan
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To: markomalley
When Reagan cut taxes, each year, as the taxes went down, revenue to the treasury went up" Coulter responded

Reagan cut tax RATES, not taxes. Until people learn to use the word "rates" most people will never understand how a decrease in taxes leads to an increase in taxes. At least Ann used the word "revenue." I know it's a math term, which most people hate, but we conservatives who want to educate an ill-informed populace shoule try to teach them.

47 posted on 06/08/2011 7:01:19 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: Senator John Blutarski

That is correct- that’s why I would never vote for Gingrich - he had his chance and blew it, too. WHY??????


48 posted on 06/08/2011 7:04:36 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Two Kids' Dad

Two Kids’ Dad wrote: “You have that backwards. It was under the Newt-led house that the budget became temporarily controllable and had a surplus (under some, but not all, definitions).”

..... Perhaps my prose was not as clear as I intended, but that is exactly what I thought I was saying.


49 posted on 06/08/2011 7:38:06 PM PDT by Senator John Blutarski
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To: Senator John Blutarski

Everytime I hear them talk about Clinton’s surplus I never ever hear a Republican tell them it was because of a Republican Congress and it’s aways tee’s me off. Repubs are really, really bad at PR.


50 posted on 06/08/2011 7:39:12 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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