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SWAT team launch dawn raid on family home to collect unpaid student loans [O's Dept of Education]
The Daily Mail ^ | June 8, 2011

Posted on 06/08/2011 4:35:31 PM PDT by grundle

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To: rockvillem
The only problem is, I don't see any of this changing if we have a Republican in the White House. The Paramilitary Organizations will just have a new boss, and will keep on doing the same old crap.
51 posted on 06/08/2011 6:28:02 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: Yorlik803
next each cabinet post will have their own private army.

What makes you think they don't already?

52 posted on 06/08/2011 6:51:18 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: AAABEST

Wow.... Any new information ?

This mans gonna be rich if true.


53 posted on 06/08/2011 6:51:18 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: grundle

there is a very important message here for the citizens of the USA. The only thing that matters is power. Take it, keep it and use it. Nothing else will matter.


54 posted on 06/08/2011 6:54:24 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Hawk720

Assault is assault.

The woman wasn’t even there.

It is reasonable to expect that - even if the government were right - which they are not in this case - that they would excercise EXTREME discretion before assaulting an innocent man and his children in their home.

The chain of command need to be fired for cause, brought up[ on charges, and treated like the reckless asshats that they are - by definition - for this fiasco.


55 posted on 06/08/2011 7:17:41 PM PDT by Eldon Tyrell
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To: Squantos

One of Holder’s (my people). Boy, someone is going to incur Holder’s wrath ... they were supposed to be rich white guys!


56 posted on 06/08/2011 7:18:35 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: grundle

Where are our usual bootlickers today - usually they fawn all over the out of control police. maybe this is too much even for cop lovers?


57 posted on 06/08/2011 7:18:48 PM PDT by Eldon Tyrell
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Lol....yep. The Erkel Mugabe militia messed in their bosco this time.

Stay safe !


58 posted on 06/08/2011 7:29:21 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: basil
If somebody is breaking in your door, shoot first and ask questions later.

Wrong response to a team of armed police, SWAT, etc. -- you'll end up dead and not one of them will even be wounded. I have a surefire way of preventing kicked in doors and gunfire if one should be kicked in.

Mentioned idea to retired military commander who agreed and then said I was crazy. One should not be living in such a way as to have one's door kicked in. However, if one is doing something that might lead to a kicked in door, a way exists to stop it (especially the next time -- you won't be there, but the newly recruited armed force (previous armed force will not be there either) will not kick in the door in that area).

59 posted on 06/08/2011 8:06:07 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: DuncanWaring
It is coming here. It is only a little way down the road, say, at the most, 5years. But be patient, it is coming.

In November 2012, we have one last chance to peacefully delay it for a while[I use the term delay beliberately because the forces of evil never rest]whether we can do it or not remain yet to be seen.

60 posted on 06/08/2011 8:09:47 PM PDT by sport
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To: grundle

He was lucky he is alive . The last guy the SWAT team paid a visit to was not so lucky.


61 posted on 06/08/2011 8:20:35 PM PDT by sport
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
"One should not be living in such a way as to have one's door kicked in."

No, one shouldn't; but since these knuckleheads frequently can't seem to read addresses correctly, you could be Mother Theresa and still have your door kicked in... and your dog shot... and your fish stomped.

62 posted on 06/08/2011 8:23:04 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: varmintman

Right!....us.


63 posted on 06/08/2011 8:26:29 PM PDT by sport
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To: aposiopetic

Correct, the GOP could have stopped it....but who knows, maybe they initiated it. I’ll have to dig into it more, to see the circumstances....but I’m afraid I will be very disappointed. Also, my search gave me a hit on similar powers being given to the Dept of Energy...I didn’t even want to read the details, though.


64 posted on 06/08/2011 8:30:08 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Hawk720

I was under the impression that the FBI was the agency that investigated Feredal crimes. But, I suppose, like everything else when we operated under the Constitutional restraints, that was then, this is now. And the sheep said....


65 posted on 06/08/2011 8:33:17 PM PDT by sport
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To: grundle

Where are our usual bootlickers today - usually they fawn all over the out of control police. maybe this is too much even for cop lovers?


66 posted on 06/08/2011 9:46:49 PM PDT by Eldon Tyrell
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To: Eldon Tyrell

>> Where are our usual bootlickers today

More importantly, where are the self-proclaimed Constitutionalists?


67 posted on 06/08/2011 10:03:47 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: mgstarr

I agree, who is scrutinizing these agencies and their paramilitary style collections operations?

For a student loan? Really?

I recall an article from some time past stating the Department of Education purchased several shotguns.... I now see why.

I think they have radically deviated from any semblance of their proper role.


68 posted on 06/08/2011 10:29:02 PM PDT by Bshaw (Deception on small matters leaves all others in doubt!)
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To: thouworm

http://www.ignet.gov/pande/standards/agleguidelines.pdf


69 posted on 06/09/2011 5:19:25 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: AAABEST; Squantos; Travis McGee; Lurker; GladesGuru; SLB
"This man's gonna be rich if true."

That was my first impression. That, and a firmer conviction that the Federal Government is officially out of control.

The days of "Officer Friendly" seem to be long gone.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

70 posted on 06/09/2011 5:38:25 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: RetiredTexasVet
One of Holder’s (my people).

Uh, no. The guy was taking care of his kids, and probably had a job. He wasn't one of "Holder's people."

71 posted on 06/09/2011 6:10:40 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: Nik Naym

Come to think of it, all of mine fell overboard too......but that was a long time ago.


72 posted on 06/09/2011 8:30:46 AM PDT by majormaturity
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To: Joe Brower

Lawyers, juries, and groups like Oath Keepers are going top get the jack boot crowd under control. After all, they are a resource awaiting harvest.


73 posted on 06/09/2011 9:29:24 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Gene Eric

In all seriousness - what practical limits on behaviour do you see the government - central government (they have ceased to be federal) - see on their power here?

I suppose they could have taken him to a secret prison - but really - what would they gain there? The citizen wasn’t valuable for information.

How demented does a person need to be to see any relation at al lbetween the Constitutions intent - and this action?


74 posted on 06/09/2011 10:03:39 AM PDT by Eldon Tyrell
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To: grundle

Looks like it was`nt about an unpaid loan, after all. And it does`nt look like it was a SWAT team. But by this time tommorrow there will be 10 more posts that a SWAT team roughed up this guy and his kids over an unpaid loan.


75 posted on 06/09/2011 5:55:51 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: mgstarr

To: grundle
I have to wonder about the mentality of those “officers”.

In another place and time, they’d have been pushing people into cattle cars. Just following orders you know.
/// sadly, a good point. i admire Oathkeepers, and others who serve our country. but i fear if it comes to it, they might be outnumbered by the type you speak of.


76 posted on 06/10/2011 7:41:29 AM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: grundle; Dallas59

AH, look, it appears as if the media was lying and you bought it.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/09/unpaid-student-loan-raid-claim-refuted-as-feds-target-california-couple-in/?test=latestnews


77 posted on 06/10/2011 7:48:14 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: Eldon Tyrell

>> In all seriousness - what practical limits on behaviour do you see the government ...

The details of this story seem to be changing, but a salient point nonetheless.


78 posted on 06/11/2011 12:00:29 AM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: Gene Eric

The “details” change - but the core issue remains.

These “officers” or whatever they are - need to be fired - for cause. Even if that cause is wasting time, and launching an assault when the target isn’t there.

What happens to YOU when you waste 20 man days on a boondoggle? And that doesn’t include the assault and idiocy.

It appears they found NOTHING?


79 posted on 06/11/2011 12:56:37 AM PDT by Eldon Tyrell
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