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Foreclosure woes: For one homeowner, following bank's advice was bad news
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Posted on 06/08/2011 8:01:42 PM PDT by Jim 726

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1 posted on 06/08/2011 8:01:47 PM PDT by Jim 726
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So this story can be summarized as a fool decided to pay a lot of money to give up an already-paid-for house.

I wish I was in the position this woman started in... having a paid off house.

2 posted on 06/08/2011 8:05:00 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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That about sums it up. Used her house as an ATM, and got burned. So sad, too bad... but why should people who refrained from such foolishness be required to bail her out?


3 posted on 06/08/2011 8:06:28 PM PDT by Jim 726
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I’m not trying to get out of making payments. I just want to pay what I can pay.

Sounds reasonable...</sarc>

4 posted on 06/08/2011 8:06:50 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too...)
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To: Jim 726

Yes, that was my first thought. What a dumb thing to do.


5 posted on 06/08/2011 8:07:32 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: pnh102

For $200,000 she could have built an additional house. Sounds like some contractor took her to the cleaners.


6 posted on 06/08/2011 8:11:57 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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And she is only the tip of the iceberg. All those new cars, trips around the world, boats, condos in exotic places, timeshares, the children’s and grandchildren’s college expenses, etc. and then the cash cow died. How sad and unfair ... who to blame it on?


7 posted on 06/08/2011 8:16:16 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: Jim 726
When her interest rate jumped more than a year ago,

I don't get it. LIBOR rates are and have been at historic lows. Why should the rate jump even with a crap ARM...unless it was interest only.
8 posted on 06/08/2011 8:20:20 PM PDT by stylin19a
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She wants to pay $600 a month on a $200,000 loan...

Well at an interest rate of ZERO it would just under 28 years to pay that off...

What the hell did she expect? Free money?


9 posted on 06/08/2011 8:23:22 PM PDT by DB
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While true that she probably shouldn’t have pulled $200k out, or any, the fact remains that people ARE being mislead on loan mods, which, are hard to get and only being offered to people who are not paying.

The other thing I noticed...based on the $200k loan size, her payment increase wasn’t due to the “rate going up” as much as that her introductory negatively amortizing payment period was expired...and she had to start paying back principal.


10 posted on 06/08/2011 8:27:20 PM PDT by RockinRight (Who is "Generic Republican" and why does he poll so much better against Obama than anyone else?)
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Not only refrained from such foolishness, but paid extra in the form of points to get a lower locked in rate. So now not only do I have to pay my mortgage, plus the points, plus a rate that was higher than her low adjustable rate, but now I should have to help her pay her mortgage???

How about someone helping me? How about adjusting MY mortgage?! I’ve never missed a payment, took a part time job to help make ends meet, I don’t go to Disney, never buy “new” cars and I just canceled cable to save money.

Why is it always me that has to pay to help these people?


11 posted on 06/08/2011 8:28:02 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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It was probably LESS THAN Interest Only, an “Option ARM.”

An artificially low payment that doesn’t even cover the interest, but when the loan balance increases to where it’s more than about 115% of the original amount, you have to start paying back principal plus all the month’s interest.


12 posted on 06/08/2011 8:28:59 PM PDT by RockinRight (Who is "Generic Republican" and why does he poll so much better against Obama than anyone else?)
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“What the hell did she expect? Free money?”

Yup. Zero interest loan for x years most likely. Of course, the bank assured her it was a good idea, I’m sure.

What a mess...


13 posted on 06/08/2011 8:31:03 PM PDT by piytar (Obama opposed every tool used to get Osama. So of course he gets the credit. /hurl)
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To: Jim 726
IndyMac was acquired by OneWest Bank in 2009:

Feds Cite Schumer In Collapse Of IndyMac

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2152809/posts

Flowers, Soros, Michael Dell team to buy IndyMac

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2008583219_apindymacsale.html

caveat emptor doesnt cover Con men and grifters...

14 posted on 06/08/2011 8:32:29 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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thanks. I just now read about “option ARM”. Man, what a freaking scam. It sure sounds like that that’s what that lady had. The math fits.


15 posted on 06/08/2011 8:35:36 PM PDT by stylin19a
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At 70 she’s old enough to remember the inflation, high interest rates and adjustable mortgages of the 1970s. She was paying a mortgage then and probably grateful that she had a fixed rate.

$600 a month is never going to pay off a 200K mortgage.


16 posted on 06/08/2011 8:45:07 PM PDT by heartwood
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http://maps.qpublic.net/cgi-bin/bay_alsearch.cgi

“Hall, Lindsey” returns no matches on PCB property tax rolls.

“Hall, Linda” has only only one return that is close to a beach house and thats a condo in a tower.


17 posted on 06/08/2011 8:45:31 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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It’s astonishing how many people just have no clue about personal finance and economics topics. It’s just not that hard. Maybe something needs to be done at the High School level, to give more people some basic clue about how to deal with basic financial decisions.

This person clearly didn’t know bad advice when she got it.

There’s a relative of mine, some sort of step-aunt or something... she and her husband both have had good, well-paying jobs. Before the big crash they were into a third mortgage on their not-yet-paid-for house— all of that money borrowed went for vacations and cruises and other travel. Every penny they made was being sunk into those loans. They had no savings anymore, and of course massive credit card debt. They’d buy lavish presents for themselves on their cards, and then merely pay the minimum payment... never touching the principal, which just grew, and grew...

I simply don’t understand it. How can anybody be that big of a financial disaster?


18 posted on 06/08/2011 8:48:20 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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here she is listed as 68 and "Linda" in march of 2010.

That article says "Linda prides herself on her ability to pay her own way. She paid cash for her car. She doesn't have credit cards. She saves up to travel."

Prides herself??? She admits in the newer article she bought that stuff with money she borrowed on her house. Paying cash for a car and paying off credit cards is easy when you borrow against your home.

19 posted on 06/08/2011 8:54:46 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: DB
What the hell did she expect? Free money?

Don't be an ass. It's the agreement the bank made with her. If that wasn't sufficient, they shouldn't have made the loan. You're blaming her for the bank's foolishness.

20 posted on 06/08/2011 8:57:32 PM PDT by newzjunkey (2012: no cults, just candidates please.)
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