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RAND Corp: Iran 8 weeks from the Bomb
American Thinker ^ | June 08, 2011 | James Lewis

Posted on 06/08/2011 8:35:36 PM PDT by neverdem

According to a RAND report, the United States and the world have blown the chance to prevent an Iranian nuclear weapon.  Half a year ago, US air strikes and a no-fly zone might have prevented a nuclear bomb in the hands of the martyrdom ideology of Khomeinist Iran.  That window has now slammed shut.  In about 8 weeks, the RAND report concludes, Iran will have the nuclear material for its first bomb. 

RAND Corporation's Gregory S. Jones believes that Iran has produced almost 40 kilograms of uranium enriched near 20% percent.  Jones suggests that air strikes can no longer stop Ahmadinejad's rush to nuclear weapons.

It appears that the Obama administration knowingly allowed the optimal window of opportunity against Iranian nuclear weapons to pass.  As a result, the world has suddenly become immensely more dangerous.  

The slogan "Death to Israel! Death to America!" has been chanted on a daily basis by mass meetings in Iran.  It is sheer wishful thinking to believe that after 30 years of daily threats they don't really mean it.  The Obama Administration either believes there is no looming nuclear threat, or that it's willing to live with it.  But the Saudis and other neighboring countries don't agree.

Thirty years after Jimmy Carter allowed Iran to be conquered by the Ayatollah Khomeini, a proponent of martyrdom war to spread Shiite Islam, Iran has the means to strike countries it has threatened directly, including Saudi Arabia and Israel.  Iran's ballistic missile program, with major North Korean help, may be able to reach the United States by 2015.  ICBMs only require a flight time of about half an hour. 

It is likely that Saudi Arabia and possibly Egypt will import their own nuclear weapons from Pakistan, which is now rushing to build an advanced plant for uranium production.  An American nuclear scientist who visited a North Korean centrifuge plant recently reported that the plant he saw was so advanced it could only have been built with Chinese help.  North Korea therefore seems to have been working as a Chinese proxy to promote worldwide proliferation of nuclear weapons.

Iran is dominated by a martyrdom ideology.  Ahmadinejad was likely involved in mass suicide charges in the Iran-Iraq war, in which boys wearing green plastic "Keys to Paradise" were ordered to drive their motorcycles into Saddam Hussein's minefields.  Ahmadinejad is thought to be a "Twelver," a devout believer in the Shiite Mahdi (messiah), who will bring Armageddon to infidels and victory to an extremist sect of Shi'ism. 

No nuclear war has occurred in the last sixty years since Stalin's (stolen) atom bomb explosion.  Rational nations do not commit suicide.  The Iranian Twelver regime is the first openly suicide-promoting regime since the Japanese Imperial cult of World War II.  Ahmadinejad is a religious fanatic who claims to have direct conversations with Allah and the Twelfth Imam, a claim that has led to internal struggles between Ayatollah Khamenei and the Revolutionary Guard factions.  Khamenei recently arrested Ahmadinejad supporters accusing them of practicing witchcraft against the dominance of the religious elite.

Zbigniew Brzezinski, Jimmy Carter's National Security Advisor when Khomeini overthrew the Shah, has recently said that Obama's demand for Israel to pull back to its 1949 ceasefire lines was not strong enough.  Brzezinski apparently wants greater concessions from Israel. 

Newt Gingrich has called Obama's demand "an invitation for Israel to commit suicide."  Michele Bachmann has called it "a betrayal" of Israel.

It is now beyond serious doubt that Obama and Carter have empowered the most radical and dangerous forces in the Islamic world. 

1. In 1979 Jimmy Carter brought Ayatollah Khomeini to power by undermining the Shah, who was a modernizer and relatively enlightened on issues like women's education.  The result is 30 years of a reactionary Islamist regime, the Iran-Iraq war, and now, nuclear weapons.

2. A few months ago Obama publicly pushed Hosni Mubarak out of power in Egypt.  The result has been a rise to power of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, and an apparent breakdown of the Egypt-Israel peace treaty.  The Saudis are outraged and frightened by the "Arab Spring," which is bringing down regimes all over the Arab world.  Pakistan is ready to supply the Saudis and Egypt with nuclear weapons, probably backed by China.  

The world has had 30 years to prepare for this moment.  Only the United States has the military power to knock down Iran's nuclear industry and impose a no-fly zone that will keep Iranian missiles and aircraft from being launched.  Israel is motivated to do it, but cannot sustain a long air campaign.  The only option Israel seems to have is to launch its own weapons of mass destruction first.

Dr. Jones' eight-week estimate for the first Iranian Bomb may be off by weeks or months.  Nobody can doubt that we will be facing a nuclear Iran some time soon.  George W. Bush was mercilessly mocked for launching a preemptive war against Saddam Hussein because Bush did not want to take the risk that Saddam might have WMD's.  It now appears that Obama has failed to preempt Iran's nuclear breakout.  We will therefore have an opportunity soon to find out what happens when the United States does not try prevent rogue regimes from getting nukes.


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1 posted on 06/08/2011 8:35:43 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem; a fool in paradise; JoeProBono
It's time for...


2 posted on 06/08/2011 8:37:39 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: nuconvert

Ping.


3 posted on 06/08/2011 8:40:53 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: neverdem
Thank you President Hussein.

Thank you DNC.

Thank you traitorous media.

Thank you gullible voters.

4 posted on 06/08/2011 8:43:15 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: neverdem

It’s probably nothing one of our missile frigates couldn’t correct in a few minutes.


5 posted on 06/08/2011 8:46:19 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans freed the Slaves Month")
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To: neverdem

Bibi is about seven weeks from nuking Tehran.


6 posted on 06/08/2011 8:46:19 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: Army Air Corps

Will Israel do what must be done now?


7 posted on 06/08/2011 8:46:50 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: neverdem

Iran, six weeks away from being bombed by the Israeli airforce?


8 posted on 06/08/2011 8:46:55 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
It’s probably nothing one of our missile frigates couldn’t correct in a few minutes

Except our CIC happens to be on the side of the Muzzies.

9 posted on 06/08/2011 8:48:14 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks neverdem. So, what are they seven or fewer weeks from?


10 posted on 06/08/2011 8:51:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: neverdem
The Obama Administration either believes there is no looming nuclear threat, or that it's willing to live with it.

Or it is in and of itself, islamist.

11 posted on 06/08/2011 8:55:42 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 867 of our national holiday from reality. - Obama really isn't one of us)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I don't think nuke's are his style.
My money is on determent already underway. Stuxnet was the warm up; the main course is being delivered and will arrive just about the time surgical/conventional strikes arrive.
Most likely "in the nick of time" as is Israel's style.
12 posted on 06/08/2011 8:55:50 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: neverdem
This is absolutely correct. It's a done deal.

The UN IAEA finally just admitted that Iran has a weapons program after covering for them for the last 10 years.

They are trying to get out in front of the problem before Iran announces a test so they can try to maintain credibility for their next sabotage mission.

13 posted on 06/08/2011 8:56:00 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Michael Barnes
My money is on determent already underway. Stuxnet was the warm up; the main course is being delivered and will arrive just about the time surgical/conventional strikes arrive.

An "accidental discharge" would be nice.

14 posted on 06/08/2011 8:57:06 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: neverdem

Does this mean Iran may be on the business end of an Israeli bomb in 7 weeks?


15 posted on 06/08/2011 8:58:56 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: neverdem
While there is legitimate concern and serious threat of an Iranian nuke, it's a long ways from 80lbs of fuel to an effective trigger and an effective delivery mechanism.

Yes, they must be stopped at all costs.

I hope the Mullahs are dumb enough to light one in a test BEFORE Nov, 2012.

The USA can not tolerate a nuclear Iran. And, Israel will not...using whatever means is necessary to stop the threat.

Is Israel willing to kill 40mil people in order to protect their existence and lives?

Probably yes.

Is the USA? Probably no.

16 posted on 06/08/2011 8:59:07 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
An "accidental discharge" would be nice.

Speaking of, wasn't it during the Regan Administration that our intel (believe it was CIA) blew the crap out of a USSR oil pipeline via computer networks?

17 posted on 06/08/2011 8:59:55 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: Michael Barnes
Siberian pipeline sabotage
18 posted on 06/08/2011 9:03:12 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
A Gentleman and a scholar.

/gracias.

19 posted on 06/08/2011 9:05:14 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: Mariner

According to James Risen of The NYT, the Iranians have the warhead design thanks to Clinton and Operation Merlin. Their current Shahab missiles have the range to cover all of the Middle East and parts of southern Europe and Asia. Seems like all they need now is the weapons grade nuclear material.


20 posted on 06/08/2011 9:10:20 PM PDT by edpc (I disagree. Circle gets the square.)
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To: neverdem
Another interesting article from an Iranian source...

'The day after Iran's first nuclear test is a normal day' A bizarre article on a Revolutionary Guard website breaks a taboo by anticipating the impact of an Iranian bomb.

21 posted on 06/08/2011 9:21:22 PM PDT by BigFinn (The King is coming and He isn't riding a donkey this time.)
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To: BigFinn

Thanks for the link.


22 posted on 06/08/2011 9:31:24 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
Iran nukes 6 million Israeli Jews into heaven and Israel retaliates by nuking 60 million Middle Eastern Muslims into perdition.

Then the Democrats WILL HAVE to let us drill baby drill.

23 posted on 06/08/2011 9:44:15 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("The Face of The Party" Pervert Wiener is only one of many Democrat "members.")
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24 posted on 06/08/2011 9:51:15 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Well, I tried.

https://ssl.scroogle.org/

iran familyop site:freerepublic.com

And I’m on I Told You So Hill, waiting.


25 posted on 06/08/2011 10:03:24 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in a thunderous avalanche of rottenness heard across the universe.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It would be very interesting indeed to know what Israel’s nuclear protocols are for the situation.


26 posted on 06/08/2011 10:06:17 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: edpc

Whoa!

I had missed that.

Interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Merlin


27 posted on 06/08/2011 10:20:37 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: PA Engineer

Will be shielding some components and getting spares for a while, ping.


28 posted on 06/08/2011 10:29:34 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in a thunderous avalanche of rottenness heard across the universe.)
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To: neverdem

...and nine weeks from using it on Israel.


29 posted on 06/08/2011 11:24:44 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


30 posted on 06/08/2011 11:26:15 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: neverdem; SunkenCiv; Alamo-Girl; decimon; 2ndDivisionVet; yefragetuwrabrumuy; Jeff Head; ...
Ummm, remember this? And this?
31 posted on 06/09/2011 12:04:48 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: neverdem

Bump and mark for later...


32 posted on 06/09/2011 1:00:17 AM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: neverdem
Jones suggests that air strikes can no longer stop Ahmadinejad's rush to nuclear weapons.

Well, Jones, there are airstrikes and then there are airstrikes, just ask any survivor from Hiroshima.

33 posted on 06/09/2011 1:21:07 AM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: grey_whiskers

:’) One a partisan shill, the other a media meme-building.


34 posted on 06/09/2011 3:38:27 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: El Sordo

That kind of information just makes me sick. The real axis of evil is China, North Korea, and Iran. All of these have been aided, directly or indirectly by the useful idiots in the Democrat party.

China and North Korea primarily want the US gone, and Iran, primarily wants Israel gone. All of them know or assume that an attack on Israel would probably bring a retalitory response from the US, so their best position is to strike the US either at the same time as striking Israel or prior to striking Israel.

Whether or not we want to be tied to Israel, we are. If this 8 week time line is accurate, then America is on a short clock as well.

It never needed to come to this, but PC and the soft approach to evil allowed evil to grow and it will kill many people in the end.


35 posted on 06/09/2011 4:57:50 AM PDT by ScubieNuc
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To: neverdem
Brzezinski apparently wants greater concessions from Israel.

Brzezinski and ALL those who have since, one way or another, appeased the Islamists, helped spread Islamic ideology & destabilized the West & the world, should spend the rest of their lives in a prison known as 'Evin'.

After over 3 decades of activities such as assisting Khomeini come to power in Iran, the Taliban in Afghanistan, AQ and more, professing ignorance of the ME & moslem world "culture", no longer can be viewed as a justification for creating a monster that continuously needs to be fed with blood & money.

36 posted on 06/09/2011 5:23:01 AM PDT by odds
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37 posted on 06/09/2011 5:42:46 AM PDT by SJackson (Normal people don't sit cross-legged on the floor and bang on drums, WI State Sen Glenn Grothman (R))
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To: neverdem
...the Obama administration knowingly allowed the optimal window of opportunity against Iranian nuclear weapons to pass. As a result, the world has suddenly become immensely more dangerous.

Why parse words? Obama knew then and he knows now that the Iranians are bomb makers. He let this happen. It is his policy to strengthen our enemies and weaken America.

38 posted on 06/09/2011 6:00:58 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Army Air Corps

I wonder if Seymour Hersh blinked when this report came out, or if he’s sticking to his belief that Iran is yrs away from having a nuke and everyone is over-reacting?


39 posted on 06/09/2011 6:08:29 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: OrangeHoof
...and nine weeks from using it on Israel.

Well, you KNOW they're going to use it/them as soon as possible, before they have the chance of being destroyed.
40 posted on 06/09/2011 6:11:48 AM PDT by crosshairs (The left's hatred of Christianity has blinded them to the REAL threat which is Islam.)
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To: neverdem
Nobody can doubt that we will be facing a nuclear Iran some time soon. George W. Bush was mercilessly mocked for launching a preemptive war against Saddam Hussein because Bush did not want to take the risk that Saddam might have WMD's.

Btw, is the above a joke or what ? Iran embarked on a nuke's program back in early 1990s under so called 'moderate & pragmatist', "we can do business with him", perceived by the West, Ayatollah Rafsanjani.

Saddam was a nobody. Iraq's major nuke site was bombed by Israel in the 1980s during Iran-Iraq war, which in turn helped the Mullahs' Iran. And after severe sanctions and no fly zone since the first gulf war, Iraq had nothing. Certainly no usable WMD. There are too many people like Saddam (not Islamist, but dictators) in the ME. But, Saddam & his regime were no way a dire threat to the West as the Mullahs' regime with their Islamic ideology & proxies have been for over 32 yrs.

41 posted on 06/09/2011 6:51:51 AM PDT by odds
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To: Revolting cat!
"...Iran's ballistic missile program, with major North Korean help, may be able to reach the United States by 2015. ICBMs only require a flight time of about half an hour. ..."

More likely Iran will launch a nuke from a floating platform off our coast. Also, with a limited amount of fissile material it is likely they'd try to get the most bang for their buck and set off the nuke in the ionosphere so as to destroy the electronics across a wide swath of America (HEMP attack). A Hemp attack would have a far wider impact than the nuking of one American city.

Even my 15-year-old truck would be useless after a HEMP attack. Yours too, if it has electronic fuel injection or any of computer-controlled systems.

This is what I fear, and what I prep for. Mentally, I can adapt to an environment where the laser on my rifle does not work and I must shoot terrorists using iron sights.

42 posted on 06/09/2011 7:34:39 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (You bring the traitor. I'll bring the rope.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Thanks for the ping!


43 posted on 06/09/2011 7:43:00 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: grey_whiskers

OBVIOUSLY THIS BE TRUE.

THE MSM is saying it . . . So I guess FREEPERS are now authorized to believe it.
/s


44 posted on 06/09/2011 8:00:15 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Maine Mariner

I wish it were that easy. It would be a lot more desirable to have the dissident movement in Iran get some help from the US. But Hussein will be whatever Hussein is.


45 posted on 06/09/2011 2:28:09 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Mariner
While there is legitimate concern and serious threat of an Iranian nuke, it's a long ways from 80lbs of fuel to an effective trigger and an effective delivery mechanism.

I was going to say the same thing. There is a long road from having the material to controlled fusion. Of course...they could already have the means in place and just need the core...don't know.

46 posted on 06/09/2011 2:38:29 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: neverdem

The rand corporation is an anti-American globalist think tank that gave us ‘homeland security’ and the TSA (which it is paid to develop programs for)

So now the anti-Americans are planning another war, that has been ‘years in the making’?

These people belong in prison.


47 posted on 06/09/2011 2:44:26 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: neverdem

The rand corporation is an anti-American globalist think tank that gave us ‘homeland security’ and the TSA (which it is paid to develop programs for)

So now the anti-Americans are planning another war, that has been ‘years in the making’?

These people belong in prison.


48 posted on 06/09/2011 2:46:20 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Obastard certainly isn’t.


49 posted on 06/09/2011 4:40:44 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Revolting cat!; ex-Texan
COUNTDOWN TO ISLAMIC MADNESS!


50 posted on 06/09/2011 6:22:36 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never 'free'.)
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