[dog breath]

I think our president loves Indonesia so I would be surprised if we joined in any ban. Maybe he will ship Dr Temple Grandin over there to show them how it's done. It sounds like one autistic old woman slaughterhouse designer is smarter then that whole lot. Then again, being Muslims they are most likely too stupid to listen to a woman.

[Elendur]

true. but there is plenty of halal products being sold in the USA. and it’s all the same way. no stunning, Islamic prayer, cut throat, bleed out.

...and the USA animal rights people? mostly it’s “crickets”.

(and the Islamic prayer to their God, renders it unusable for some strict interpretations of the Bible. but most people don’t know, how common this is. some airlines serve ALL halal meals, to avoid the cost of doing them separately...

[Amberdawn]

Temple Grandin could indeed show them the right way, however, Jews also kill their cattle by throat cutting. Grandin says that depending on the type of knife used, a cows thraot can be cut so quickly that they will bleed out largely before they feel any pain.