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Patent Office Forces E-Cat Self-Destruct Capability
Disclose.tv ^ | June 8 2011 | Hank Mills

Posted on 06/08/2011 11:00:52 PM PDT by Kevmo

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1 posted on 06/08/2011 11:00:58 PM PDT by Kevmo
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To: dangerdoc; citizen; Lancey Howard; Liberty1970; Red Badger; Wonder Warthog; PA Engineer; ...

The Cold Fusion Ping List

This news is spreading through the blogosphere.

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2 posted on 06/08/2011 11:04:24 PM PDT by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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Sounds like he’s doin’ it right. I’ll gladly wait if china is kept out and if big business doesn’t get to monopolize it.


3 posted on 06/08/2011 11:09:41 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (If you are a Patriotic Conservative Christian Capitalist, I invite you to visit my Profile)
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To: Kevmo

Sounds like the old hydride swindle to me.

A fellow used to sell a ‘magic engine’ that ‘used water as fuel’ and did demonstrations. He would open up his ‘fuel tank’ add water and sure enough, the engine would run.

hydrides would give off hydrogen when exposed to water. Of course hydride as fuel was much more expensive per btu than petroleum.

Hope I am wrong.


4 posted on 06/08/2011 11:20:20 PM PDT by donmeaker ("To every simple question, there is a neat, simple answer, that is dead wrong." Mark Twain)
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To: PieterCasparzen

“Andrea Rossi is being forced to design a self destruct mechanism to be built into every E-Cat (Energy Catalyzer) used by the public. “
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i freely admit, i don’t understand any of this. and, up till now, it sounded intriguing...

but that seriously activates my “BSoMeter”. maybe it’s legit, but it sure sound like a snake oil guy would sound.

...i know you wrote some good things on an unrelated post, so if you think it’s legit, i’ll try to keep an open mind.


5 posted on 06/08/2011 11:20:20 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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the critical patents covering the technology and the protections for the proprietary "catalysts" used have not yet been granted.

Bullstuff. A 'master zeroize' device isn't going to change the elemental composition and relative ratios of 'catalysts'. Blow it up with C4 and a good mass spectrometrer guy can XOR out the C4 and tell you what, and how much.

This is the first time that I've been suspicious instead of curious. Disclosure, I'm just a cook.

/johnny

6 posted on 06/08/2011 11:26:00 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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Thanks for this information- although it sounds too good to be true!


7 posted on 06/08/2011 11:34:21 PM PDT by matthew fuller (God Bless Ted Nugent, Johnny Cash, John Wayne, and Marshal Matt Dillon. 06042011AD)
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To: Kevmo
Understand his reasoning's completely, but it also gets the needle to jumping on my suspicion detector at the same time.
Still holding in the time will tell pattern.
8 posted on 06/08/2011 11:42:59 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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I don’t buy that the patent office requires anything of the sort. Sounds like a BS excuse to explain the lack of an actual product/working model.


9 posted on 06/08/2011 11:43:52 PM PDT by DB
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Self-destruct poster v. 1, take 1 Pictures, Images and Photos
10 posted on 06/08/2011 11:47:59 PM PDT by GraceG
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11 posted on 06/08/2011 11:48:46 PM PDT by GraceG
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It’s possible he’s in the same position the Wright Brothers were. They knew they had a good first-generation solution, but they were surrounded by people who were trying to steal their knowledge and create their own airplanes. The Smithsonian institute teamed up with Curtiss Wright to do just that, in the ensuing patent battle.

Much of how the Wright Brothers acted before they had signed manufacturing contracts could have been seen as very suspicious. It would be even more suspicious today.


12 posted on 06/08/2011 11:50:19 PM PDT by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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Blow it up with C4 and a good mass spectrometer guy can XOR out the C4 and tell you what, and how much.
Not if they include extra non-functional bogus "catalysts" to confuse matters ... ;-)
13 posted on 06/08/2011 11:54:57 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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Filing of the application in every country I am familiar with secures your date of invention, and you are not barred from receiving patent protection by selling your product after the filing of your applications and before patent grant. Patent prosecution can be a very long process, and such a requirement would be hugely detrimental to the patent system and to the economy. I don’t know where this source is getting their legal information, but I can only hope that the physics behind the device are better than the legal advice driving its development.


14 posted on 06/09/2011 12:18:06 AM PDT by bone52
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Additionally, to get the patent he will have to disclose the information necessary to enable a person to practice his invention. So, he will have to disclose the sensitive features and functions. If he will not make this disclosure, he will not get the patent. The Chinese won’t need to buy one of his devices and reverse engineer it to figure out how it works, they will only have to get a copy of a granted patent, and these are easily found online. Once again, his legal advice seems to be very poor, and one can only hope that his knowledge of physics is better than his understanding of the patent system.


15 posted on 06/09/2011 12:24:43 AM PDT by bone52
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That's why I said I understand his reasoning.
I'm still one of those clowns who would like to see him take 1 or even 3 of his little devices producing self sustaining power with the excess power, probably in the form of sustainable very hot water up to steam, spinning a 5KW generator lighting 50 100W bulbs continuously for 2 months.
With his power claims, this should be a down and dirty way of proving it.
No meters, fancy calorimeters or calculations necessary.
16 posted on 06/09/2011 12:26:15 AM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: Elendur

(read this in the voice of those bears that talk about “the bernank)...

It is a fact: commie rats copy off of other people rather than doing their own work.

I heard from an old computer hand that the soviet rats had completely reverse engineered IBM’s hardware in the early days of computing, then simply pirated the operating system by smuggling it out on tape. The remarkable thing was that the hardware was reverse engineered well enough to run the o/s.

They also like to steal things and make mischief.

The chinese are certainly trying to gain access to every server and piece of network equipment that is connected to the internet in the usa. Every time I start up a new server, within a few hours it is experiencing a brute force attack to break in which is originating from either a chinese or middle eastern or eastern european ip address. Brute force attacks only work on equipment where the administrator is stupid. Of couse, they are able to break into any such “stupidly” managaged server, so they have access to many servers in the usa.

Many Chinese also love to pirate software rather than write it themselves, no matter how cheap it is. The Chinese government seems to love this.

So it is wise to keep your technology or anything you own away from the Chinese, because they will try to steal it. Then you will have missed your opportunity to make money from the time you spend developing your idea. So why bother working on your idea; let the idiot thieves create their own technology. Only sell your work to someone who will pay you what you ask.


17 posted on 06/09/2011 12:56:43 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (If you are a Patriotic Conservative Christian Capitalist, I invite you to visit my Profile)
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is based on hard science...

Lie. It's an unsubstantiated claim of miraculous power generation with an extension cord.
18 posted on 06/09/2011 2:12:53 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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19 posted on 06/09/2011 2:19:26 AM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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There's a control device inside ~ probably looks like the chip in your cellphone. That regulates the rate of production of what Rossi calls the "catalyst" as well as the input power for the "catalyzer".

He uses two words and he means two things. Obviously he's not going to be able to destroy the hydrogen, nickel and lithium, but he can slag out the chip and the switches with a swish of acid contained in a packet that breaks when you pull the housing apart. His secret is the "operating temperature", not the materials this thing is made out of.

20 posted on 06/09/2011 3:13:10 AM PDT by muawiyah
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