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Here Comes Peter Cottontail Hopping Down the Statist Trail: Feds Fine Missouri Farmer $90,000
The New American ^ | Thursday, 09 June 2011 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 06/09/2011 8:21:50 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer

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To: BRK

Look, we have thousands of people die from eating bad meat, and from E Coli. So if you do not like the old laws about meat processing you get all you friend together and lobby congress. Just say you demand the right to kill your fellow citizens. You will find very thin support.


21 posted on 06/09/2011 9:39:13 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Paladins Prayer

Apparently Rural Missouri farmer John Dollarhite, wasn’t one of Holder’s people and he didn’t employ illegal aliens.


22 posted on 06/09/2011 9:41:19 AM PDT by Gator113 ("GAME ON." I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: org.whodat

Again, you don’t seem to get it. I couldn’t care less when the act was passed. If it’s unconstitutional, it’s unconstitutional.

I have no problem with the states regulating slaughterhouses and large scale animal breeding. But I have a huge problem with the feds doing it because they have no constitutional right to do it.

But I do stand corrected. I said that the feds have been violating the Constitution for 100 years. But if that unconstitutional act was passed in 1906, then the feds have been violating the Constitution for 105 years.


23 posted on 06/09/2011 9:41:28 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer
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To: org.whodat

Do you by chance work for the federal government?


24 posted on 06/09/2011 9:41:41 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: org.whodat; Paladins Prayer; All

Aside from the issue of large breeding operations having satisfactory health/facility standards, might this also have anything to do with the danger of tuleremia (or whatever that Rabbit disease is called)?


25 posted on 06/09/2011 9:43:26 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: tacticalogic

Does having known and sleeping with a lady that worked for the IRS count. I was divorced at the time, have no idea where the wonderful lady is today. But that was the only relationship other than I am a veteran.


26 posted on 06/09/2011 9:50:11 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: tacticalogic
"John and judy dollarhite begin selling rabbit meat by the pound in 2006."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailycaller/20110524/pl_dailycaller/usdafinesmissourifamily90kforsellingafewrabbitswithoutalicense

27 posted on 06/09/2011 9:58:27 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

Hey genius, you really are something. Did you actually read the article you provided a link for? Here is the relevant part of it:

“When a local pet store asked them to supply their pet rabbits, the Dollarhites had no idea they would be running afoul of an obscure federal regulation that prohibits selling more than $500 worth of rabbits to a pet store without a license from the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA). Under the law, pet stores are exempt from regulation.”

So the rest of us were right and you were wrong. The farmer was cited for selling rabbits as PETS, not as meat. Do you get it yet?

Also, this article you provided doesn’t help your argument in any way. It paints a picture of a heavy-handed fed gov. that wanted “to make an example out of [the farmer].” That’s what the article says.

Man you’re dense.


28 posted on 06/09/2011 10:09:31 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer
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To: Paladins Prayer

The investigation was for selling meat, genius, and you are the one that claimed they were not selling habit meat.


29 posted on 06/09/2011 10:13:50 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

Now who’s lying? That’s not what your article says.

“By by selling to pet stores for resale, the humble Dollarhites became “wholesale breeders of pet animals,” said Dave Sacks, a spokesman for USDA who defended the fine, even while admitting it “looks curious” to the average person.”

But I get it. I’ve tweaked your ego and now you’re too proud to just say, hey, you’re right. I got that wrong.

Pride goeth before a fall.


30 posted on 06/09/2011 10:24:21 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer
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To: org.whodat

Cat walking on your keyboard again?

If you have details that we don’t know about, that is what FR is all about. Getting to the bottom of the story.

Tell us more.


31 posted on 06/09/2011 10:26:39 AM PDT by listenhillary (Social Justice is the epitome of injustice.)
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To: org.whodat
Okay.

Sometimes I've seen end-justifies-the-means arguments in support of federal regulations offered as a substitute for an enumerated power.

Over the years I've found that those arguments seem especially prevalent among people who are or were career government employees, but it isn't always the case.

32 posted on 06/09/2011 10:38:45 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: listenhillary

Droid,Droid, little key pad big thumbs, and some times it changes words, however, the spell checker does not know how to spell Droid.


33 posted on 06/09/2011 10:40:39 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: tacticalogic

Have no idea what the law is about abusive pet animal breeding, but they caught one guy about 60 miles from where I lived with hundreds of female dogs, said the cages had never been cleaned. Do not know, but they should have put him under the jail.


34 posted on 06/09/2011 10:46:33 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Paladins Prayer
"By being licensed, the facility is periodically inspected by USDA APHIS inspectors to ensure the animals are being adequately cared for.”

One would think that his customers could judge whether the animals they were getting were healthy and well-cared for. But I guess nothing is officially true until a government inspector says it is. Or is it, 'until it is officially denied' (ala Weiner)?

This is all getting so confusing...

35 posted on 06/09/2011 10:54:31 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: org.whodat

Agreed. But that sounds like something for state or county laws to handle. It’s not right, but it’s not national security or a threat to the stability of the republic, either.


36 posted on 06/09/2011 11:01:53 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: org.whodat

Org, I actually agree with you. But the point is that the ‘they’ who should have put him under the jail are state authorities, not federal ones. The Constitution simply doesn’t allow the feds to be involved in this. Is this that hard to understand?


37 posted on 06/09/2011 11:36:52 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer
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To: org.whodat

I found the regs and it looks like they were in violation of some animal protection law and rules from back in the 90’s. Maybe this was in addition to the things you mention but this is what they were charged with / about.


38 posted on 06/10/2011 3:58:32 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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