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Utility giant AEP says it will close five coal plants to comply with EPA regs
The Hill ^ | 6/9/2011 | Andrew Restuccia

Posted on 06/10/2011 6:06:05 AM PDT by BfloGuy

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To: BfloGuy
Who cares? We have "green energy" that will power our electric cars!

Obama Math: 6,000 lost coal megawatts - 1,000 solar megawatts (@ 7x the cost of coal) = 5000 lost megawatts

A rough scaling up the Nellis solar facility to a 1,000 megawatts at $100 million per 15 megwatts would mean that a comparable solar plant would cost $6.6 billion to build. But wait, there's more. Coal-fired plants operate at about 90 percent capacity, so a truly fair comparison would take into account that a solar plant generally operates at 30 percent of its rated capacity. That would mean that a solar photovoltaic plant using the technologies available at Nellis would actually cost nearly $20 billion to build in order to produce the same amount of power that a conventional coal-fired plant would.
41 posted on 06/10/2011 7:05:56 AM PDT by TSgt ("Some folks just need killin'" - Karl Childers (Sling Blade 1996))
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To: Nip

Obviously, some people will need to live in nice houses up on the hill and oversee the nut and berry production.


42 posted on 06/10/2011 7:07:31 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: BfloGuy

“Energy prices will necessarily sky rocket”, said Obama.

Well, the next President will be elected by promising to overturn EVERY policy Obama implemented.


43 posted on 06/10/2011 7:08:56 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: Nip; ClearCase_guy

I’ve said for a long time these leftist elitists long for a return to feudalism.

It won’t be long now before they start working on making it illegal for “commoners” to own land.

I see this new “rural initiative” of Obama’s as a step in that direction.


44 posted on 06/10/2011 7:11:03 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: TSgt

Don’t forget that the $20 billion plant will produce all the power in daylight hours. You need to spend another $20 billion for the storage facility to be able to accumulate that power and dispatch it at night. So plan to spend $40 B.


45 posted on 06/10/2011 7:11:30 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: G Larry

Someone could truly get elected by saying

“everything he did, I’ll do the opposite”


46 posted on 06/10/2011 7:11:48 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Great... the efficiencies will go way down because the only way to store electricity is in batteries - DC,
and the only way to transmit it is AC,

so we get another 10% inverter loss at night.

BHOmo is such a Dumbass.


47 posted on 06/10/2011 7:13:46 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: BfloGuy
4700 net megawatts of coal generation to be retired. That will result in hundreds of associated job losses: plant operators, coal transport, coal mining, etc.

Welcome to Obamaville!

48 posted on 06/10/2011 7:17:45 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Well those states definitely need to pay higher prices for electricity! (sarcasm)
I just got back from a trip to Arkansas the end of February, visiting family. My cousin who has a house about the same size as ours keeps it cooled at 74-76 degrees all summer long for around $100. I live in California and our bill at 80 degrees is over $600.


49 posted on 06/10/2011 7:35:02 AM PDT by sheana
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To: DTogo

Bring on the Chinese-style rolling blackouts.

Hey Wifey! Power’s on! Do the laundry, Quick!


50 posted on 06/10/2011 7:51:32 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: sheana

I cannot understand how people take such things for granted, as an addition of several hundred dollars a month to the electric bill for cooling the house off.
We have a/c here, and never turn it on. Never, as in, not in several years, despite some hundred-degree days. The entire electric bill this month will not amount to a hundred dollars. One fan does all that is needed and it isn’t on often. Size of house, over 3000 sf.


51 posted on 06/10/2011 7:52:55 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Bad posters drive out good. Don't post and drive!)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

I live in the central valley where we stay over 100 degrees for over a month. We have heat alert days of 114 degrees. Try doing without an air conditioner in that heat.
We also have tiered electric bills. We have a baseline number that no one can hit and then the prices keep going up from there. I think the top tier is 30 something cents per kilowatt. It’s been awhile since I looked.
We don’t take it for granted, we do everything we can to cut our bills. Our winter bill runs right at $200 and we use a pellet stove and never turn the heat on. We have installed 2 Mastercool swamp coolers to keep our summer bills down to between $300-400.
You just cant beat the bureaucrats here. PG&E just got another rate increase.


52 posted on 06/10/2011 8:08:06 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Mouton
How about this, we shut the coal plants and as a saving energy method, we turn off the grid going into DC...

How about this, we shut the coal plants and as a saving energy method, we turn off the grid going into all the liberal cities.

53 posted on 06/10/2011 8:29:01 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (zero hates Texas and we hate him back. He ain't my president either.)
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To: BfloGuy

>Sort of gives the old saying “will the last one out please turn off the lights” a new connotation. Unfortunately, we’ll still be here — sitting in the dark. Ayn Rand wrote a book called “Return of the Primitive”. We’re living it.<

And the EPA continues on with its Quixotic quest to save us from Carbon Dioxide. Tilting at windmills (pun very intentional).

There are a whole lot of folks who use AEP that when electric rates skyrocket after this catastrophe, will turn to their trusty wood stoves for heat.

Good move there EPA. I don’t know about you guys, but I’m sending messages of disgust to my senators, congressman and every state rep I can find.

I suggest you guys do the same. Heck, please do the same!


54 posted on 06/10/2011 8:48:41 AM PDT by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: MrB
And there will be those engaged in nefarious activities.

Power's about to go off, get ready to hit that liquor store!

55 posted on 06/10/2011 8:55:40 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: BfloGuy; NormsRevenge; DManA
Wow, it seems like just yesterday I was saying...

Fines and penalties to rural counties hat have no significant level of manufacturing, shutting down power plants that are the only sources of power in the region, collapsing local economies, closing farming and cattle operations.

Oh... it WAS just yesterday.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2732491/posts?page=15#15

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2732621/posts?page=4#4>

And little Ø' Bammy claims he is running for reelection?

B.S. He is fleecing the dummies for their money before he is canned in 2012.

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56 posted on 06/10/2011 10:49:21 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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